I think you forget that I've been an atheist. I have a good idea of where you're coming from what you like/don't like about Islam/God/life, etc. Been there, done that, etc.
What I'm doing is going back to the basics and verifying the core fundamentals because it seems many many people have assumed certain things as facts such has dust collapsing to form stars and planets, life forming naturally, certain beliefs in Islam, etc.
Is there anything wrong with questioning things? So far no one here can object to any of the claims I have made regarding the science. I quote science research. But for some reason people like yourself don't like it and would rather spend days ridiculing comments before you actually take the time to read and understand the science.
It seems quite clear from your comments and galfromusa that both of you STILL have not grasped what has been said so far regarding dust forming stars and planets. Is there any point trying to explain the most simplest things to you when just refuse to look beyond ridiculing? There are people like bogart, dr sloth and Quod who actually look into the science and try to understand it which positively helps a discussion but for some reason you see me as some kind of enemy?
Anyway, I don't think there's much you could understand about reality when you can't even grasp the most basic fundamentals of science. Reality in itself, is bizarre it's beyond anything you/we can imagine. You have no idea what you are talking about when you mention reality. As a believer I am meant to believe in a magical land where people never die, with castles and mansions and "fairies" and everything you could every want and more. Don't you think I find that unbelievable, bizarre, strange, impossible? I do. I have to pinch myself everyday to give myself a reality check. Do you understand all this? I very much doubt you do. It's taken many years for me to get to this point after constant questioning so understandably it may not make much sense to people like yourself.
I don't really care about the stars and dust and all that, y'all can reinvent the wheel all you like. My beefs with Islam are not about science, but about the fact that it is not compatible with human rights. In my opinion you just need to take science classes.
You have ignored all my questions and never commented on the proof I provided you with from Quran. I tried to participate in a discussion that requested your own opinions and thoughts and you did not comply. I don't need articles from a peer reviewed journal to verify the universe that I live in and it's natural laws. I went to school like everyone else.
If you want to practice self-delusion and continually force yourself to believe in djinn and witchcraft and a god that no longer gives a shit, then that is on you.
I don't know why you want proof of the universe you already exist in when proof that the Quran is bull is nearer at hand and supposedly dearer to your heart.
You do know that some of the people you are arguing with had been learning under ulema in Arabistan? Take this opportunity and listen to what they have to say about Islam. Why do you skirt that subject? You dance around it like it is not the central issue, refusing to even engage in conversation about sahih hadith.
Why do you reject hadith (which contain plenty of "scientific" claims, and how then do you get context for Quran without hadith?
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