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  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     OP - September 20, 2015, 06:15 PM

    Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz discuss their new book:

    http://youtu.be/PI9QwEKqrso


    What do you think?

    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #1 - September 20, 2015, 06:22 PM

    Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz discuss their new book:

    What do you think?


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI9QwEKqrso

    Hmm........   well I think   Sam Harris is getting old and growing beard..  and now a days Maajid Nawaz is drinking beer  don't know what to do .. and with Islam , Islamism in his brain .. he became Zombi...look at him..



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    http://www.islam21c.com/politics/according-to-maajid-nawaz-islam-is-the-problem/

    ..........Firstly, Maajid Nawaz is himself an extremist by the real meaning of the word, not an ex extremist. Formerly he claims he was an “Islamic extremist” due to him hearing about Muslim suffering in Bosnia during his time as a member of Hizb ut Tahrir where he became a “politicised Muslim”. Later Maajid Nawaz ended up in prison in Egypt during his compulsory study year there as a SOAS student. According to Maajid Nawaz it was at that time he realised that the kind of politicised Islam he was following was incorrect. Being well educated and articulate he was exactly what the Government wanted when they needed to be seen to be doing something after 7/7 but at that time they did not have a clue where to begin. So a lucrative career opportunity led Maajid Nawaz on a 180 degree turn around from an “Islamist” sitting in an Egyptian prison to where he is about to be sitting, in a synagogue discussing the topic of rising European anti-Semitic alongside vicious xenophobes Douglas Murray and Alan Mendoza at this upcoming panel discussion...........


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    http://5pillarsuk.com/2014/01/29/maajid-nawaz-is-a-donkey/

    Maajid Nawaz is a donkey...   

    Maajid Nawaz believes in the right to offend. Well so do I, writes Roshan Muhammed Salih. And that’s why today I’m calling him a donkey (apologies in advance to all donkeys).

    Following his tweeting of caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad (saw) and Prophet Isa (as) and the massive reaction to it, Nawaz wrote a ludicrous article in the Guardian claiming that he was trying to save Islam from being hijacked by extremists. In the risible piece which should be recycled as toilet paper, he was obviously trying to portray himself as some kind of “free speech martyr.”

    But it is simply grotesque to compare Maajid Nawaz to any martyr who has ever lived, and far more accurate to liken him to an annoying horse-like creature which makes irritating noises.

    Let’s get a few things straight.

    Firstly, there is a broad cross-section of opinion within the Muslim community against Maajid Donkey Nawaz. In fact the only thing which brings us Muslims together like Mr Donkey is Israel.

    He gets up the noses of Sufis, Shias, Salafis, “Islamists” and “non-Islamists” alike. This is because we can all see him for what he is – a vain attention-seeker whose voice has been artificially amplified by government finances, the BBC and the right-wing media..................


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    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #2 - September 20, 2015, 06:52 PM

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    ...Ymmaj Iduas....   says:

    Maajid Nawaz is a Muslim who can't enter Mecca, because my government profiles him easily as heretic, blasphemous and terrorist just for his secular and UDHR compatible opinions.

    That being said,  as an ex-muslim myself. I do support Maajid's voice all the way, because he literally & actively stands up for the minorities oppressed within muslim majority communities.

    The irony behind this, i just took my Muslim mom to mecca for Omra and i am a total atheist

     Cheesy Cheesy  I like that guy .. he is my type....

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #3 - September 20, 2015, 07:05 PM

    Yeez, I don't think you have a type. You are truly one of a kind.

    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #4 - September 20, 2015, 07:34 PM

    Yeez, I don't think you have a type. You are truly one of a kind.

    well you are right JP.. I am NOT one type I will not get type casted as one type.. I use every color for my underwear and I use   stuff from all religions and I discard stuff from all religions .. But an atheist guy taking his  believing  mom to mecca for Umrah  is my type of Atheist...

    My be I should name myself as  AAA   I mean "Agnostic  Atheist  A--"  Cheesy

    anyways,  there is question at the end  of that tube from an   young lady  Rana Abdul Hamid ..

    Every one must watch that along with the answer from Maajid

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #5 - September 20, 2015, 08:05 PM

    Post Debate of Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz at JKF Forum

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc_DjUluo1M

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #6 - September 20, 2015, 08:26 PM

    Post Debate of Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz at JKF Forum

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc_DjUluo1M

      damn that is more than a debate

    Hmm...   where is Police....  Catch that bad girl........Elyzcheva........  bad..bad..Pakistani..
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM9f8CTypsU

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #7 - September 20, 2015, 11:28 PM

    Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz discuss their new book:

    http://youtu.be/PI9QwEKqrso


    What do you think?


    I watched the entire discussion. It was a good discussion. I think the second (or maybe third) from the last question was really the most poignant, when the gentleman asked how you can actually change someone's mind who holds bad ideas. The facts are what they are, so logically proving your point is the easy part. It's the second part, the part about winning over people who disagree with you, that is ultimately most important. Getting peaceful Muslims to side with you is one thing, and it's a good thing, but the challenge then becomes winning over the ones who are actually out to do harm. The challenge is winning over the ones who really do believe that gays should be killed, fornicators should be lashed, and disbelievers should be burned alive for eternity. That's the tricky part.
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #8 - September 20, 2015, 11:45 PM

    You ostracize those ideas and hopefully wait for them to die, as the rest of us can move forward. At least, that's what I think the plan is with the baby boomers here in the US.

    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #9 - September 21, 2015, 12:49 PM

    You ostracize those ideas and hopefully wait for them to die.........

    Hmm asbie  is a DEADLY GUY., he has deadly ideas.,  but let me use right word there., I don't like that word "ostracize " there.,    "castracize" is a better word..,  so reader should read  asbie   words as
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    ..."You  castracize  those ideas and   wait for them to die"....

       In simpler words . "CUT OFF THE BALLS OF BABOON IDEAS" and just wait for that baboon  to live their life without reproducing.. specially without reproducing their ideas of houris afterlife bullshit  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8lhuMG1fbQ

    that fool is saying  "No Black women or Asian women found or wanted in Muslim heaven"

    fucking Idiot....., let me give a fatwa.,     Any Muslim guys who  sees that fool ..BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THAT SCOUNDREL..... that is the order from allah subhanahu wa ta'ala.  

    .. fools talk nonsense..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Islam and the future of tolerance
     Reply #10 - September 30, 2015, 04:26 AM

    I don't know if anyones heard of the comments Republican US presidential candidate Ben Carson made, but Sam Harris and Dean O. discuss it here. Probably the most heated I've ever seen Sam:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLN9ZHNA_3c


    "I moreover believe that any religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
    -Thomas Paine
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