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Reply #60 - February 07, 2016, 04:50 PM

Quote from: Cheetah on February 03, 2016, 09:19 PM
Hilary Clinton will win anyway, so who cares what he says?

I strongly doubt that..... anyways let us listen to Trump..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGU21fhHszk

Hmm that is true It is a fact Mt. Trump did say " let us not go into Iraq and destabilize the region"

I have to agree with that..

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Reply #61 - February 08, 2016, 05:08 AM

if not hilary…who do you think will win yeezevee?
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Reply #62 - February 08, 2016, 12:47 PM

Quote from: C on February 08, 2016, 05:08 AM
if not hilary…who do you think will win yeezevee?

hello C when did US of A got its independence from London king/Queen and how many women elected to that office??

I say her Jewish son in-law has better chance than She ... so take a pick.. You know Saudi Arabia and US of A kingdoms can not elect women to their highest office.. it is their god;s rule

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Reply #63 - February 08, 2016, 05:05 PM

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Reply #64 - February 10, 2016, 08:09 AM

Quote from: C on February 08, 2016, 05:08 AM
if not hilary…who ....?

well... the news at http://www.dawn.com/news/1238595/trump-wins-in-new-hampshire-sanders-defeats-clinton says

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Trump wins in New Hampshire, Sanders defeats Clinton

MANCHESTER: Bernie Sanders won a commanding victory over Hillary Clinton in the New Hampshire primary Tuesday, and Donald Trump also scored a big win in a triumph of two candidates who have seized on Americans' anger at the Washington political establishment.

Both outcomes would have been nearly unthinkable not long ago.

Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, beat a former secretary of state and first lady once seen as the all-but-certain Democratic nominee.

While Clinton remains the favourite in national race for the Democratic nomination, the win by the Vermont senator could be a springboard into a competitive, drawn-out primary campaign.

For Trump, the brash real estate magnate and television personality who has never held public office, the win was an important rebound after his loss to Texas Senator Ted Cruz in last week's Iowa caucuses, the first nominating contest.

Read: Cruz tops Trump, Clinton pushed hard in Iowa caucuses

Trump has led national polls for months and the New Hampshire victory reinforces his position as front-runner, proving he can win votes, and giving credibility to his upstart populist candidacy.

“Wow, wow, wow, wow,” Trump declared, savouring his victory at a campaign rally before promising swift action as president on the economy, trade, health care, drug abuse and more. “We are going to do something so good and so fast and so strong and the world is going to respect us again. Believe me.”..

well ... “Wow, wow, wow, wow,”.... and other side an old timer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTh-1hto9wU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8Z59fCk6tQ

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Reply #65 - March 11, 2016, 08:56 AM

I don't know where to put this, so I choose these place.

The Obama Doctrine

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/

Very good article.

Obama made some mistakes(Libya), but I will choose him any time. Looking at Clinton, Trump, Cruz I cannot feel anything less than USA will screw everything up again.
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Reply #66 - March 11, 2016, 09:08 AM

Things are definitely not looking good. Sanders is the only decent choice left, but his chances are slim.

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Reply #67 - March 11, 2016, 02:09 PM

Donald Trump is a national socialist, a left-wing progressive pumped up on the steroids of right-wing nationalism. This was a man who stated in the past his support fully socialized healthcare. He opposes free speech, thinks people should be killed for committing thought crime (like his thuggish friend Putin) and has been endorsed by the most internationally renowned fascists; that is no coincidence, because Trump himself is a fascist. However, his meteoric rise can be credited to leftists (and to some degree rightists) who have been preaching the sermon of self-victimization (i.e. blame the rich for everything) and economic cynicism (i.e. his fiery rants against free trade). This is everything leftists have been whining about for years. Not to mention the moral and political vacuum created by failing to address the problem of Islamic fanaticism.

Trump is the natural outcome when establishment politicians fail to address fundamental issues.

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Reply #68 - March 11, 2016, 03:36 PM

Quote from: certainlydoubt1 on March 11, 2016, 02:09 PM
....................Trump is the natural outcome when establishment politicians fail to address fundamental issues....

Ben Carson confirms backing for Trump says BBC NEWS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06oHO_GsBRI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmUhTeG0KVk

"established politicians fail to address fundamental issues".... well I was under the impression Barak Obama was NOT an established politician., So Americans elected him., Question is does that "failure of established politicians" only works of Republicans?? or will it work for Us of A Democrats?

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Reply #69 - March 20, 2016, 01:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrE9z1JFT1Y

AMRIKA should build biiiiig wall all around it and should never allow any one in to it..

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Reply #70 - June 16, 2016, 12:35 PM

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Don’t make Muslims feel West hates them, Obama asks Trump

WASHINGTON: US President Barack Obama has urged Republican politician Donald Trump not to make Muslims across the world feel the West hates them, as doing so would have very dangerous consequences.

“It won’t make us more safe; it will make us less safe — fuelling ISIL’s notion that the West hates Muslims,” he warned. He said it would be a mistake to make “young Muslims in this country and around the world feel like no matter what they do, they’re going to be under suspicion and under attack.”

well I may not agree with everything Mr.Obama said and done but he is certainly giving good advice to Mr. Trump..

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Reply #71 - June 16, 2016, 08:24 PM

Not a bad idea.
At least for Muslims who are already living in United States

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Reply #72 - June 17, 2016, 10:26 AM

Quote from: Absurdist on December 11, 2015, 03:20 AM
He'd probably alienate a lot of Republican voters and independents, but he's by no means politically irrelevant. I don't think this is a case of "ignore it and it'll go away."

I do agree with this. Considering the fact that he has won the primary and has appealed to the white working class, I'm afraid he is going to win this but then he is no different from Hillary Clinton if you ask me.

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Reply #73 - June 17, 2016, 03:42 PM

Sam Harris pod cast on USA elections and Orlando tragedy

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In this episode of the Waking Up podcast, Sam Harris reads and discusses the second chapter of “The End of Faith.” However, the first hour of this podcast focuses on Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, and the political implications of the recent terrorist attack in Orlando. Discussion of The End of Faith begins at 1:04:30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmbAd1Cg5rM

Sam Harris on Trump.............

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Reply #74 - June 17, 2016, 06:08 PM

Lol, Is this guy still relevant on American political issues? Oh wait, I forgot I'm in a space where neoconservatives voices are highly valued.

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Reply #75 - June 18, 2016, 12:45 AM

Quote from: Cato on June 17, 2016, 10:26 AM
I do agree with this. Considering the fact that he has won the primary and has appealed to the white working class, I'm afraid he is going to win this but then he is no different from Hillary Clinton if you ask me.

I don't think he appeals to the white working class, if people I know are any indication. More like the white supremacist class.

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Reply #76 - June 18, 2016, 08:55 AM

Quote from: three on June 18, 2016, 12:45 AM
I don't think he appeals to the white working class, if people I know are any indication. More like the white supremacist class.

spot on... but American politicians and the public must realize that guy with his loud mouth and full of lies certainly threw republican foolish politicians out of race.. Add to that we have Islamic heroes such as recent massacre in US of A., He certainly seem to appeal to Americans as Outsidesr of US politics..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5m9HLMobQQ

Democrats of that country better come out with decent ways for exposing his lies..

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Reply #77 - June 18, 2016, 09:01 AM

Quote from: Cato on June 17, 2016, 06:08 PM
Oh wait, I forgot I'm in a space where neoconservatives voices are highly valued.

For a guy with your mindset even the present American president Mr. Obama is neocon Cato..

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Reply #78 - June 18, 2016, 10:21 AM

Of course,I never said I was a fan of Obama. Both Democrats and Republicans are neoconservatives. But then that's the thing with Representative democracy,Two big political parties with different names but same ideology.

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Reply #79 - June 18, 2016, 10:29 AM

Quote from: three on June 18, 2016, 12:45 AM
I don't think he appeals to the white working class, if people I know are any indication. More like the white supremacist class.

Not saying in general but he's got millions of them supporting him and surely there are lot of white supremacists within that class.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/07/donald-trump-why-americans-support

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Reply #80 - June 18, 2016, 10:50 AM

Quote from: Cato on June 18, 2016, 10:21 AM
Of course,I never said I was a fan of Obama. Both Democrats and Republicans are neoconservatives. But then that's the thing with Representative democracy,Two big political parties with different names but same ideology.

Ok., Then Cato whom do you like in American Politics? past or present elected members ?., Or do you like the policies of folks like Mao Zedong or Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz as US of A Head??

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Reply #81 - June 18, 2016, 01:56 PM

The answer is none. I don't like politicians and pseudo socialist dictators.

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Reply #82 - June 18, 2016, 02:25 PM

Quote from: Cato on June 18, 2016, 01:56 PM
The answer is none. I don't like politicians and ~~pseudo socialist dictators.~~

What is this pseudo socialist dictators?

dictators are dictators., they can not be socialist nor they are pseudo. ,So if you don't like pseudo socialist dictators., Do you like just dictators? and dictatorial attitudes/policies ?

As far as politicians are concerned ., The globe works with politicians., I say without them., life of human beings will be worse than what it is. So politics is important., politicians are important ., Off course there are good and bad politicians., but the human social structure of 21st century needs them. Why don't you become a politician or join politics Cato.,

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Reply #83 - June 18, 2016, 03:06 PM

Quote from: Cato on June 18, 2016, 10:21 AM
But then that's the thing with Representative democracy,Two big political parties with different names but same ideology.

Absolute clueless....

That's not the problem with 'representative democracy'...

The problem is with the electoral college system in America which disproportionately distributes the popular votes at times. There are clear ideological differences between the republican and democrats. But, for the sake of argument, why do state they have the same ideology.

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Reply #84 - June 18, 2016, 03:24 PM

Even if the electoral college system is corrupt as you imply,I don't see any chance of US electing someone within the two major parties that will discontinue the neoconservative foreign policies and neoliberal economic policies. Also I'm making a general references to most countries whose government practices representative democracy especially in third world countries as it has become a common thing to see major political parties with similar ideologies competing for votes while keeping the other parties that actually differ from them out of the elections.

Since you have more clue than me on American politics then please care to enlighten more so that I will learn from the master.

Why is there no independent party in US? Why just the two party? Why are they not allowing candidates from other independent parties to even debate with the Democrats and Republics

Social values,yes they have ideological differences but not when it comes to economy and foreign policies as they pursue the same thing. But since im absolutely clueless one like you say then tell me something I don't know

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Reply #85 - June 18, 2016, 03:55 PM

Quote from: yeezevee on June 18, 2016, 02:25 PM
What is this pseudo socialist dictators?

Those that claim to be socialists but they are actually tyrants.

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dictators are dictators., they can not be socialist nor they are pseudo. ,So if you don't like pseudo socialist dictators., Do you like just dictators? and dictatorial attitudes/policies ?

Lol,let me save you the trouble. I don't like any kinds of dictators. I don't support any form of dictatorships.

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As far as politicians are concerned ., The globe works with politicians., I say without them., life of human beings will be worse than what it is. So politics is important., politicians are important ., Off course there are good and bad politicians., but the human social structure of 21st century needs them. Why don't you become a politician or join politics Cato.,

No,Politicians actually make life of human beings worse and the world will be a better place without them. They promise you heaven but give you hell after they get elected. I also have no desire of being one.

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Reply #86 - June 18, 2016, 05:00 PM

Muslims do have problem guys.
Terrorism is coming from muslim community.
even muslim women are bitch.
muslim women are insisting their husbands to commit acts of violence and terrorism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_attack

I don't know, if banning muslims will help against terrorism.

but it will help muslim community in usa already living here.

islam is death cult. no doubt about it.
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Reply #87 - June 18, 2016, 05:40 PM

Quote from: Cato on June 18, 2016, 10:29 AM
Not saying in general but he's got millions of them supporting him and surely there are lot of white supremacists within that class.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/07/donald-trump-why-americans-support

I know some who do support him, rabid bigots to the last. I am sure there are all these stats out there and so on, but the working class people that I know do not support him at all and are bewildered by his popularity.

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Reply #88 - June 18, 2016, 05:43 PM

Quote from: cellphone2016 on June 18, 2016, 05:00 PM
Muslims do have problem guys.
Terrorism is coming from muslim community.
even muslim women are bitch.
muslim women are insisting their husbands to commit acts of violence and terrorism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_attack

I don't know, if banning muslims will help against terrorism.

but it will help muslim community in usa already living here.

islam is death cult. no doubt about it.

Don't you get tired of sounding stupid like this? Be rational.

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Reply #89 - June 18, 2016, 06:06 PM

Quote from: Cato on June 18, 2016, 03:24 PM
Even if the electoral college system is corrupt as you imply,I don't see any chance of US electing someone within the two major parties that will discontinue the neoconservative foreign policies and neoliberal economic policies. Also I'm making a general references to most countries whose government practices representative democracy especially in third world countries as it has become a common thing to see major political parties with similar ideologies competing for votes while keeping the other parties that actually differ from them out of the elections.

Since you have more clue than me on American politics then please care to enlighten more so that I will learn from the master.

Why is there no independent party in US? Why just the two party? Why are they not allowing candidates from other independent parties to even debate with the Democrats and Republics

Social values,yes they have ideological differences but not when it comes to economy and foreign policies as they pursue the same thing. But since im absolutely clueless one like you say then tell me something I don't know

I can't speak for the socio-political factors in other countries that shape voting behaviour but, as someone who teaches A-Level politics, unless there is an established, self-reinforcing social mechanism that segregates society into distinct groups then you will observe ideological convergence as an organic process in which the 'end of ideology' takes place and is replaced by a shift towards issue-based politics' in which the short-term issues of the day will be voted upon rather than exclusively based upon partisan-alignment. This is what we have witnessed in the UK which a shift towards the centre for the two main parties, hich has allowed other 'minority' parties to come to the fore. It is almost inevitable for ideologies to shift and merge given that the major parties must try to appeal as many potential voters as possible resulting in 'big tent' policies of 'catch-all parties'. In the USA the electoral college system means that the Republicans and Democrats can focus on a few states to secure the 270+ electors it needs to secure victory in the election.

Representative democracy is not flawed nor is it inherently corrupt as it is the means by which large populations of people who are not experts in governance are able to elect representatives on their behalf on a multi-year cycle. The system by which the selection of candidates takes place can be flawed but not the principle of representative democracy itself.

In the US there is the issue of party finance and campaigning. There are examples of individuals int he past who gained some traction standing as independents but failed to secure the support necessary. Jesse Ventura as a governor comes to mind. There are numerous independent parties in America and their supporters are numerous but enough when compared to the big to parties. Unless you modify your constitution o implement a proportionally representative system then independents will not have much of an influence. Still, you need public votes to secure victory. Do the independent parties appeal to enough voters or do the two main political parties off enough simplified diversity to appeal to the apathetic American voter who will return to business as usual once the election party season is over?

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