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  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     OP - December 19, 2015, 03:50 AM

    I believe they both are. Islam is a militaristic religion whose true believers seek expansion through military conquest of the globe. We can all accept that.

    However white people seem to have this innate tendency regardless of religion whether it was the atheist USSR expanding communism, the neo-pagan Nazis or the Christian Spanish conquest of the Americas.

    Christianity is a more pacifist religion yet the supposedly Christian Europeans conquered much of the world after the 1600s in a violent way.

    And it didn't stop with colonialism. Within Europe, the two world wars were the most destructive events of modern history.

    After WW2, with the atom bomb the white man stopped fighting each other. Instead they carried on fighting through third world proxies.

    I would agree that Islam is a threat to world peace but also that Europeans are also a threat to world peace. The current chaos in Iraq started after the west invaded.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #1 - December 19, 2015, 03:55 AM

    Sorry, you are going to have to define what you mean when you say ¨white¨. Like caucasian? People with white skin? People who identify as white?
    Because Europe currently doesn´t really have a ¨boots on the ground¨ sort of mentality.
    You gotta clarify.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #2 - December 19, 2015, 04:05 AM

    I mean people of European descent basically, both those in Europe and the USA.

    Not all people, but I think there's a deep rooted culture or genetics that makes Europeans more likely to go to war. And much of today's problems stem from that.

    Europe may have been replaced by European Americans in this regard but Europeans still provide a lot of support to Americas policies, both political and military.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #3 - December 19, 2015, 04:19 AM

    This thread is going to turn ugly or become dead fairly quick..

    But my answer is Islam.. Islam sucks and it should never be compared to a race.. Ever..

    "If you don't like your religion's fundamentalists, then maybe there's something wrong with your religion's fundamentals."
    "Demanding blind respect but not offering any respect in reciprocation is laughable."
    "Let all the people in all the worlds be in peace."
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #4 - December 19, 2015, 04:23 AM

    I mean people of European descent basically, both those in Europe and the USA.

    Not all people, but I think there's a deep rooted culture or genetics that makes Europeans more likely to go to war. And much of today's problems stem from that.

    Europe may have been replaced by European Americans in this regard but Europeans still provide a lot of support to Americas policies, both political and military.


    If you strip the US military of everyone who is not of pure European descent then you haven´t got much to fight with. So, I don´t think much would happen with your theory.

    Don't let Hitler have the street.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #5 - December 19, 2015, 04:24 AM

    Still, on the plus side we don't have the fanaticism gene like brown people do, or the crime gene the blacks have. Not all of them of course. Wink

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #6 - December 19, 2015, 04:29 AM

    This thread is going to turn ugly or become dead fairly quick..

    But my answer is Islam.. Islam sucks and it should never be compared to a race.. Ever..


    I'm not comparing Islam to a race.

    I'm saying that militarism is as much part of the white race as it is part of the Islamic belief system. An attribute can be shared by a religion and an ethnic group.

    Where did two world wars happen again? Which continent has the most wars in modern history? How many countries has the USA invaded since WW2?
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #7 - December 19, 2015, 04:31 AM

    Technically there is no white race.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #8 - December 19, 2015, 04:32 AM

    Still, on the plus side we don't have the fanaticism gene like brown people do, or the crime gene the blacks have. Not all of them of course. Wink


    Brown people don't have a fanaticism gene. There are as many if not more fanatics in Africa as in the middle east. Fanaticism has more to do with Islam than race. It just so happens that white people have not adopted Islam on the same level as brown people did.

    White converts are disproportionately involved in terrorism.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #9 - December 19, 2015, 04:41 AM

    Well there's the answer then. Stop giving dawah to white people, and we will have world peace.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #10 - December 19, 2015, 04:53 AM

    To say there's something wrong with "white people" and that they have this "innate tendency"....

    I don't understand why people think "white people" are still colonizing them.. It's... pathetic.. to say the least..

    "If you don't like your religion's fundamentalists, then maybe there's something wrong with your religion's fundamentals."
    "Demanding blind respect but not offering any respect in reciprocation is laughable."
    "Let all the people in all the worlds be in peace."
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #11 - December 19, 2015, 04:57 AM

    Well, what colour was the bloke who wrote that "If I ruled the world" song?

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #12 - December 19, 2015, 05:01 AM

     Cheesy

    "If you don't like your religion's fundamentalists, then maybe there's something wrong with your religion's fundamentals."
    "Demanding blind respect but not offering any respect in reciprocation is laughable."
    "Let all the people in all the worlds be in peace."
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #13 - December 19, 2015, 05:05 AM

    Checkmate.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Re: Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #14 - December 19, 2015, 05:47 AM


    Not all people, but I think there's a deep rooted culture or genetics that makes Europeans more likely to go to war. And much of today's problems stem from that.



    Sounds racist
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #15 - December 19, 2015, 06:01 AM

     Cheesy Cheesy

    "If you don't like your religion's fundamentalists, then maybe there's something wrong with your religion's fundamentals."
    "Demanding blind respect but not offering any respect in reciprocation is laughable."
    "Let all the people in all the worlds be in peace."
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #16 - December 19, 2015, 06:15 AM

    To say there's something wrong with "white people" and that they have this "innate tendency"....

    I don't understand why people think "white people" are still colonizing them.. It's... pathetic.. to say the least..


    It's not direct colonization as it was in the past. America has military bases all over the world. If that's not a form of colonization, what is? Most of the people in those countries don't want American military bases in their countries but their pro-American dictatorships allow them. America has been supporting coups in Latin American countries who don't submit to American hegemony such as Venezuela.

    What about the Iraq war? Iraq was a secular country with Christian deputy Prime Minister who had no links to Bin Laden and no WMDs. America and Britain invaded and caused the chaos that gave rise to ISIS who are now killing everyone. All for oil.

    Here's an article about the American empire by Noam Chomsky. He's one of the great intellectuals of our era. I think he understands this more than anyone on this forum
    http://www.alternet.org/world/noam-chomsky-americas-empire-chaos

  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #17 - December 19, 2015, 06:19 AM

    I don't understand what this has to do with "white people" and their "genetic tendencies" or whatever.

    "If you don't like your religion's fundamentalists, then maybe there's something wrong with your religion's fundamentals."
    "Demanding blind respect but not offering any respect in reciprocation is laughable."
    "Let all the people in all the worlds be in peace."
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #18 - December 19, 2015, 06:25 AM

    I don't understand how this is different to any people in history who have power and influence.

    `But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
     `Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad.  You're mad.'
     `How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
     `You must be,' said the Cat, `or you wouldn't have come here.'
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #19 - December 19, 2015, 06:32 AM

    You're either a troll or naively young. There's been much wrong with American foreign policy this century and last, but to try and link it to a genetic predisposition of a race is not even tenuous, it's stupid in the extreme.

    Judging from your username name you might be one of those self-hating honkeys with a guilt complex  Cheesy
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #20 - December 19, 2015, 07:29 AM

    In other news, humans are a problem.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #21 - December 19, 2015, 07:55 AM

    I believe they both are. Islam is a militaristic religion whose true believers seek expansion through military conquest of the globe. We can all accept that.


    I do not since I know Muslims with no interest in doing anything like this.

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    However white people seem to have this innate tendency regardless of religion whether it was the atheist USSR expanding communism, the neo-pagan Nazis or the Christian Spanish conquest of the Americas.  


    It is a human trait not a specific. China throughout history face repeated invasion from civilizations that are far more militaristic in nature due to be nomadics than from an rural heavy civilization.

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    Christianity is a more pacifist religion yet the supposedly Christian Europeans conquered much of the world after the 1600s in a violent way.


    Christianity was tamed due to the violence it's own organizations created and imposed upon it's own and foreign populations due to just such events. Before these events Christianity faced an expanding Muslim Empire in Spain and in Asia Minor/Balkan. The only reason Christianity is highlighted is that it was the latest in history.

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    And it didn't stop with colonialism. Within Europe, the two world wars were the most destructive events of modern history.


    Destruction increases due to technology. However World War 2 was not solely the product of Europe as Japan is not European. The European theater barely went beyond North Africa, the Urals and the Atlantic while the Asia Theater covered China, Eastern India, and all of South-West Asia. Japan started it's war years before Germany did anything. It only started to include colonial powers when said powers had their power broken at home.

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    After WW2, with the atom bomb the white man stopped fighting each other. Instead they carried on fighting through third world proxies.


    China was no one's proxy as evident from it's split from the Russia Soviet system. Proxies are not new nor unique. Many powers throughout history used proxies to weaken an enemy

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    I would agree that Islam is a threat to world peace but also that Europeans are also a threat to world peace. The current chaos in Iraq started after the west invaded.


    It started when the West turned a blind eye to a dictator and supported him only to see him turn against them. However the sectarian violence from Iraq was already present within the society due to the culture and religion of the area. The West didn't force Shia nor Sunni to start fighting each other. That mentality already existed.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #22 - December 19, 2015, 08:02 AM

    It's not direct colonization as it was in the past. America has military bases all over the world. If that's not a form of colonization, what is?


    It is called projection of power with the express permission of the local or national government for those bases. Colonization is when a group actually colonizes an area.

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    Most of the people in those countries don't want American military bases in their countries but their pro-American dictatorships allow them. America has been supporting coups in Latin American countries who don't submit to American hegemony such as Venezuela.


    True. However the local populations can also rise up to remove such influences. All I really see from this type of rhetoric is "Look, I am being oppressed!" Without doing anything about it.

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    What about the Iraq war? Iraq was a secular country with Christian deputy Prime Minister who had no links to Bin Laden and no WMDs.


    Which used chemical warfare on it's own population and the Iranians. Sure the reason for invasion was complete BS but lets not pretend Iraq was some utopia or even a nation with any level of freedom enjoyed by citizens of other nations.

     
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    America and Britain invaded and caused the chaos that gave rise to ISIS who are now killing everyone. All for oil.


    The mentality of IS existed due to the culture and religion of the area. Islamic radicalization does not happen in a vacuum

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    Here's an article about the American empire by Noam Chomsky. He's one of the great intellectuals of our era. I think he understands this more than anyone on this forum
    http://www.alternet.org/world/noam-chomsky-americas-empire-chaos


    He does not make the conclusions you have.




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  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #23 - December 19, 2015, 08:51 AM

    I'm not comparing Islam to a race.

    I'm saying that militarism is as much part of the white race as it is part of the Islamic belief system. An attribute can be shared by a religion and an ethnic group.

    Where did two world wars happen again? Which continent has the most wars in modern history? How many countries has the USA invaded since WW2?


    To answer the questions in your last sentence in order....

    1)  The two world wars happened all over the world.  That's why they were named World Wars and not White Race Wars.

    2)  Impossible to say because wars only reach outside attention when the warriors have the technology to kill on a mass scale.  Most likely wars have happened all over every continent in modern history, but the ones fought with bow and arrows don't make the history books.

    3)  Don't know, but too many.  What does America's foreign policy have to do with the white race anyway?  What about all the other countries full of white people who disagree with them?  What about the white Americans who disagree with their government's actions?  What about the black Americans who support these invasions and join up to take part? 

    Racial explanations for anything are always a bit crap.  That's why they were discredited in the 1930s.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #24 - December 19, 2015, 10:26 AM

    Wow. Try "black" instead of "white", and explain to me what is wrong here. If only white Europeans disappeared, we would have world peace. Halleluja.

    And FYI, the world has had a lot of "world wars", not connected to Europe - they just haven't been defined as such due to ethnocentric media reporting. And I didn't know WWII knowledge was so poor among people. Like, no one cares what was going on in Asia?

    "The healthiest people I know are those who are the first to label themselves fucked up." - three
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #25 - December 19, 2015, 12:01 PM

    Powerful nations conquer, colonise and subjugate weaker nations, race has nothing to do with it. The Mongol Empire (for an example) was not ruled by Europeans, neither was the Ottoman Empire. Nonsensical bigotry like this has been expressed before but people like you can never support it with reliable sources.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #26 - December 19, 2015, 04:40 PM

    Remember everyone.. Whenever you see a white person working at a gas station, he/she inheritably has a gene in them that wants to take over the gas station and become the manager as opposed to the colored people.

    "If you don't like your religion's fundamentalists, then maybe there's something wrong with your religion's fundamentals."
    "Demanding blind respect but not offering any respect in reciprocation is laughable."
    "Let all the people in all the worlds be in peace."
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #27 - December 19, 2015, 05:02 PM

     Cheesy Cheesy
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #28 - December 19, 2015, 07:18 PM

    I blame the Normans. They started it and their decendants carried it on. Bloody French.
  • Do you believe that white man is as big a threat to world peace as Islam
     Reply #29 - December 19, 2015, 07:43 PM



    2)  Impossible to say because wars only reach outside attention when the warriors have the technology to kill on a mass scale.  Most likely wars have happened all over every continent in modern history, but the ones fought with bow and arrows don't make the history books.




    A number of wars before the present still had massive causalities in the millions. Given that human population before the modern era is not even close to the 7 billion now a war with 30 million causality, religious war in Germany that effected most of the continent, is a larger percentage of a sub-billion population that 60 million of a population of 2-3 billion. People see big numbers but rarely consider the percentage of the population that these numbers represent.
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