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  • Turkey coup attempt
     OP - July 15, 2016, 08:21 PM

    Live updates:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/

    https://libcom.org/news/miliary-coup-turkey-15072016
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #1 - July 15, 2016, 08:57 PM

    This was bound to happen at some point.
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #2 - July 15, 2016, 09:07 PM

    urban75 thread: http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/2016-coup-in-turkey.345821/

    Zeynep Tufekci on twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/zeynep
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #3 - July 15, 2016, 09:22 PM



    And it is wrong in every way.,,Imagine if Allah soldiers did that and puts on that show....  and star shouting on streets .."it is all  in the name of allah for the sake  allah  glory  of medieval Islamic Turkey "

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #4 - July 15, 2016, 09:58 PM

    Alev Scott on twitter, reporting from Taksim: https://mobile.twitter.com/AlevScott
  • Re: Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #5 - July 15, 2016, 10:11 PM

    Alev Scott on twitter, reporting from Taksim: https://mobile.twitter.com/AlevScott


    I noticed this tweet 13 h ago by one John Beck :

    Quote
    Turkey’s Constitutional Court stirs outrage by annulling child sex abuse clause
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/Default.aspx?PageID=238&NID=101607&NewsCatID=509

     

    Were these judges appointed by Erdogan ?
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #6 - July 15, 2016, 10:22 PM

    Given Tayyip's sacking of the old guard and installation of loyalist officers, a few hours ago I would have thought a coup was out of the question. Now I'm wondering if coup succeeds will civil war break out?

    Joseph
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #7 - July 15, 2016, 10:26 PM

    Erdoğan calls on citizens to streets, airports to resist against coup attempt ..hurriyet daily news

    Quote
    President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said in a phone interview on broadcaster CNNTürk that a "minority group" in the military has attempted a coup.

    Erdoğan said the parallel state, referring to the followers of the U.S.-based scholar Fethullah Gülen, has promoted the attempt.

    "We will not leave the ground to them," he said, vowing to end the "occupation" by the group, called on nation to unite at squares and airports. Erdoğen said he would also be on the streets.

    The move is not as part of the chain of command, he said.

    "I am the chief commander," he said.  President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said in a phone interview on broadcaster CNNTürk that a "minority group" in the military has attempted a coup.


    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan 'flees country in private jet' after military launches coup

    worse for Turkey is something like Egyptian Sissi model

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #8 - July 15, 2016, 11:29 PM

    Turkish twitter accounts to follow:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ikoker

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ezgibasaran

    https://mobile.twitter.com/efekerem

  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #9 - July 15, 2016, 11:30 PM

    Erdogan told his supporters to resist the coup... while fleeing in a private jet Smiley

    What a perfect Sultan.
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #10 - July 16, 2016, 01:35 AM

    gah this is going to spiral out of control one way or the other.
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #11 - July 16, 2016, 02:25 AM

    Apparently the coup failed and everything is back to normal.

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #12 - July 16, 2016, 02:34 AM

    Apparently the coup failed and everything is back to normal.

    well  i am glad to know that and i hope that TURKEY  acts wisely instead of acting like monkey ruling turks..


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #13 - July 16, 2016, 07:49 AM

    Anyone know who is who? Bloke on Beeb said gulanists are like Quakers and ataturkists are past it.

    Or is that propaganda?

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #14 - July 16, 2016, 10:23 AM

    Past what?
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #15 - July 16, 2016, 11:41 AM

    Turkish PM Blames Coup Attempt on 'Terrorist Organization:' 161 Killed, 2,839 Detained   says news

    Quote
    The Turkish government says it foiled Friday's attempted coup, initiated by a faction of the military that took over state TV, imposed martial law and a curfew and attacked the police headquarters in the capital of Ankara. Turkish Prime Minister Benali Yildirim said 161 were killed in the overnight coup attempt and 1,440 people were wounded. Speaking at a press conference Saturday afternoon local time, Yildirim referred to the dead as "martyrs."

    The prime minister said the government has detained 2,839 military members. And according to Gen. Umit Dundar, who was appointed acting Chief of General Staff, 104 coup plotters have been killed.

    According to the Ministry of Interior, 29 colonels and five generals were relieved of their duties. About 200 unarmed soldiers left Turkey's military headquarters and surrendered to police, Anadolu Agency reported.


    that is the news...

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #16 - July 16, 2016, 11:45 AM

    Past it, as soo last century

    When you are a Bear of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it.


    A.A. Milne,

    "We cannot slaughter each other out of the human impasse"
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #17 - July 16, 2016, 01:26 PM

    Kemalism is Turkey's national religion.

    See for yourself. (This just happened today after some people on the /r/Arabs sub-reddit attacked Ataturk.)

    I have a lot of respect for what Ataturk did, but the way Turkish people idolize him is kinda absurd. They're indoctrinated into Kemalism the way Muslims are indoctrinated into Islam. They talk about him like he's a messiah.

    Ataturk is treated like Muhammad is treated in Islam. Except that his pictures are everywhere in Turkey. He's untouchable. That is, till Erdogan came along. Which is exactly why shit like this is going down.
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #18 - July 16, 2016, 01:41 PM

    Kemalism is Turkey's national religion.

    See for yourself. (This just happened today after some people on the /r/Arabs sub-reddit attacked Ataturk.)

    I have a lot of respect for what Ataturk did, but the way Turkish people idolize him is kinda absurd. They're indoctrinated into Kemalism the way Muslims are indoctrinated into Islam. They talk about him like he's a messiah.

    Ataturk is treated like Muhammad is treated in Islam. Except that his pictures are everywhere in Turkey. He's untouchable. That is, till Erdogan came along. Which is exactly why shit like this is going down.

    there is huge difference between Mustafa Kemal Atatürk and THIS IDIOT Erdogan.,  

    Kemal Atatürk never used Islam to become popular unlike this fellow who used and uses Islam and Islamist to grab power ..even now HE SHOULD RESIGN...  he ruled the country for 14 years..  that is enough., lucky it was NOT ISIS type of army  that went for the coup.,  Let the others in his party take over...
     

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #19 - July 16, 2016, 01:46 PM

    Don't get me wrong. I hate Erdogan, and as I mentioned have a lot of respect for Ataturk and what he did. But that doesn't change the fact that Turks are indoctrinated into Kemalism and treat him like a Godsend.

    You're not allowed to criticize Ataturk.
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #20 - July 16, 2016, 02:41 PM

    You're not allowed to criticize Ataturk.

     Absurdist try that with  Islamic heroes ..they will welcome you .lol..

    Quote


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #21 - July 16, 2016, 03:54 PM

    Kemalism is Turkey's national religion.

    See for yourself. (This just happened today after some people on the /r/Arabs sub-reddit attacked Ataturk.)

    I have a lot of respect for what Ataturk did, but the way Turkish people idolize him is kinda absurd. They're indoctrinated into Kemalism the way Muslims are indoctrinated into Islam. They talk about him like he's a messiah.

    Ataturk is treated like Muhammad is treated in Islam. Except that his pictures are everywhere in Turkey. He's untouchable. That is, till Erdogan came along. Which is exactly why shit like this is going down.



    how fuck works without shit??


    Let's Play Chess!

    harakaat, friend, RIP
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #22 - July 17, 2016, 12:26 AM

    To the coup: Erdogan and the AKP are claiming that Fethullah Gülen guys did this. Gülen is denying that he was involved in it. Some say that Erdogan did it himself to get more power in the end.

    @Absurdist: Atatürk is not popular anymore. Since Erdogan is ruling, it is getting popular to blame him and his achievements.
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #23 - July 17, 2016, 12:55 AM

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a07a7eea-4b84-11e6-8172-e39ecd3b86fc.html

    Quote
    Gulen turns coup accusations on Erdogan
    James Fontanella-Khan and Adam Samson in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania

    Fethullah Gulen, the man blamed by President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of orchestrating the attempted military coup that rocked Turkey, has tried to turn the accusation against his political rival by suggesting that Mr Erdogan’s ruling AKP party had staged the uprising.
    In a rare interview from his residence in rural Pennsylvania with the Financial Times and a small group of other reporters, a frail Mr Gulen said claims by Mr Erdogan that he had masterminded the uprising were absolutely groundless.

    “I don’t believe that the world takes the accusations made by president Erdogan [against me] seriously,” the moderate Islamic preacher said from a room inside his home at the Golden Generation Worship and Retreat Center, nestled in the rolling hills of the Pocono Mountains..
    “There is a possibility that it could be a staged coup [by Mr Erdogan’s AKP] and it could be meant for further accusations” against Gulenists and the military, he said.
    Mr Gulen said that he was not worried about being deported from America despite Turkey putting further pressure on the US government to extradite him in the aftermath of Friday’s coup attempt. He said Mr Erdogan’s calls for his extradition were just his latest bluff, as he compared the Turkish president’s political tactics to those of Adolf Hitler’s Nazis in 1940s Germany.
    “It is very clear that there is intolerance among the leadership of the ruling party and the president,” Mr Gulen said, speaking in Turkish and communicating with reporters through a translator.
    “They have confiscated properties and media organisations, broken doors and harassed people in a fashion similar to Hitler’s SS forces,” Mr Gulen said, as he described how his followers in Turkey had been mistreated over recent years by Mr Erdogan’s party.
    In a sign of the rising tension around Mr Gulen, about a dozen people started assembling outside his compound around noon on Saturday, shattering the rural calm that usually surrounds the residence.
    “The US should stop protecting him,” screamed a woman wearing a headscarf and waving a Turkish flag in her right hand and a flag portraying Mr Erdogan in the other. “Gulen is a criminal,” she shouted as protesters gathered outside the Imam’s residence.
    Alp Aslandogan, a media adviser to Mr Gulen, told the FT that the Imam’s security was on “high alert” following the failed coup and threats on Twitter of violence.
    Pennsylvania state troopers and a small group of armed private security forces hired by Mr Gulen’s centre were keeping the protests at bay.
    Mr Gulen told reporters that he had not received any communications from the US government about a potential extradition.
    “They want the best of both worlds, accusing him of being a puppet for the US and also asking the US to extradite him,” Mr Aslandogan said.
    Mr Gulen, who is aged 77, was visibly weak. He suffers from diabetes and heart disease, according to his doctor.
    The preacher, who has been living in self imposed exile in Pennsylvania since 1999, lives in modest conditions despite the vast expanse of the complex.
    The FT was able to access his bedroom and praying areas, which were ornately decorated with Islamic art and several Turkish flags.
    Despite accusing Mr Erdogan’s ruling party of having put democracy at risk in Turkey, Mr Gulen said that he was against all kinds of military coups, as he had been a victim of such uprises in the past.
    US secretary of state John Kerry said he has not received a request to extradite Mr Gulen, but that he invites Turkey to "present us with legitimate evidence"  which the US would "make judgments about appropriately".

  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #24 - July 17, 2016, 01:12 AM

    I don't understand what's so dangerous about this Fethullah Gülen. I read about his views, and didn't find anything eyebrow raising.

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #25 - July 17, 2016, 01:37 AM

    Quote
    Turkish prosecutors have issued arrest warrants for 140 Constitutional Court members and 48 members of the Council of State in the wake of Friday night’s attempted coup. Ten arrests have already been made, local media reported.

    The ten jurists detained were all members of the Council of State, which is Turkey’s top administrative court, NTV broadcaster reported.

    The arrests followed media reports that judges at other courts had been detained, as the government’s crackdown on the judiciary in the wake of the coup attempt widens.

    Constitutional Court member, Alparslan Altan, has become the most senior judicial official to be arrested after the coup, CNN Turk broadcaster reported.

    Earlier on Saturday, Turkish authorities relieved 2,745 judges of duty.

    The decision to sack the judges was made at an extraordinary meeting of Turkey’s High Council of Judges and Prosecutors (HSYK), NTV broadcaster reported.

    According to Anadolu news agency, five members were also removed from the HSYK, which is the country’s highest judicial body.
    ...

    https://www.rt.com/news/351602-turkey-supreme-court-arrested/

    What do the courts have to do with the coup?  Huh?

    "Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well."
    - Robert Louis Stevenson
  • Re: Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #26 - July 17, 2016, 01:41 AM

    https://www.rt.com/news/351602-turkey-supreme-court-arrested/

    What do the courts have to do with the coup?  Huh?


    Classic action by someone with authoritarian tendencies  .. taking advantage of the situation to get rid of independent or impartial judges and replacing them with his stooges ?
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #27 - July 17, 2016, 01:43 AM

    I don't understand what's so dangerous about this Fethullah Gülen. I read about his views, and didn't find anything eyebrow raising.

    Much easier to blame an exiled political opponent than the founding ideology of the republic. The truth is that the military has always been the protector of Kemalism and has intervened many times to overthrow the government when it thought the government was overstepping its boundaries and acting unconstitutionally.

    Erdogan is positioning himself as the protector of the republic, and even gave a speech in front of a portrait of Ataturk, which is absolute bullshit. What he has been doing flies in the face of what the Republic of Turkey has always stood for. His love for Ottomanism isn't a secret.
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #28 - July 17, 2016, 01:46 AM

    @Absurdist: Atatürk is not popular anymore. Since Erdogan is ruling, it is getting popular to blame him and his achievements.

    My understanding is that Turkish society is polarized between Kemalists and Islamists.
  • Turkey coup attempt
     Reply #29 - July 17, 2016, 02:18 AM

    https://www.rt.com/news/351602-turkey-supreme-court-arrested/

    What do the courts have to do with the coup?  Huh?


    It is claimed that some of them are from the Gülen movement, and others are radical Kemalists.
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