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OP - July 19, 2016, 12:10 PM

I have had several interesting experiences from spiritualism. I am going to tell these experiences because I want people to understand that the spirit survives after death. Some people might be worried that there is nothing after death if they are rejecting their previous religion. Although some of you might think that I hallucinated or I am having some mental disorder, these experiences are not happening to me very often. Just rarely and nothing much has happened for several years.

The spirit of my grandfather visited me three times and saved my life. I was in danger and I saw and heard him. The last time he was warning me about a man who was pushing women in front of trains. I was talking with this man and then I saw this other man and he was telling me to stand with my back to the wall. He told me his full name which I thought was oddly similar to my mothers. He was young and very handsome. I told my mother and she said that was her father's full name and he looked that way when he was young. I only remember him as being old and sick when I was a child before he died. He said he had helped me before and he was only allowed three times. He regretted that he could not have helped me when he was alive concerning a certain matter.

When I was a teenager I was very sick with a fever. I remember I was floating up in the corner of the ceiling above my body and I could see my mother panicking trying to wake me up. Before I had seen a bright light and a wonderful love from a man I could not see his face. I think this person was Jesus. I was also thinking about my life and my events that happened to me. I was in a place where there were many of my family that had died before and oddly a few other people I knew that were still living at the time including my grandmother, my neighbour and some people I did not know. The old woman (my grandmother who looked more like when she died 15 years later) came up to me and told me that it was not time yet and I had to go back. So I woke up.

Very rarely do I see spirits and talk with them. Some of them are telling me that they were asleep for a long time. Other times they have to do some mission.

One time I was working at a law office. I was called to bring tea to this family. They were all very sad and I counted and brought cups. I asked about the man because there was an extra cup. They were confused and I said there was a man there and described what he was wearing except he had no shoes. He kept saying that the key was in sock drawer. The family got very upset and so I left. The situation was that the father had died and the family had come to see the lawyer but they could not find the will. The key for the box containing the will was in the sock drawer. The lawyer was very amazed but I saw this person like he was just like anyone else.

I attended a Christian Spiritualist church for a while. I was learning how to be a medium. It got somewhat to freaky/scary for me and I stopped going. Other Christians kept telling me that it was evil and wrong. I used to read tarot cards for people and do healing touch. I never did it for money and I was helping people. Maybe I should not have stopped.

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Reply #1 - July 19, 2016, 12:49 PM

Hellooo Bee ., this is one of the important threads of any forum that discusses and debates with faiths., and thank you for putting your real experiences here. ,I am always fascinated to read/esquire these types of experiences in real life...

with best wishes
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Reply #2 - July 19, 2016, 01:01 PM

The human brain is a fascinating thing. So much is yet undiscovered
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Reply #3 - July 19, 2016, 01:03 PM

Quote from: INcePtion on July 19, 2016, 01:01 PM
The human brain is a fascinating thing. So much is yet undiscovered

ya..ya.. da..da...

that is not what i want ..i want to read your experiences of spiritualism

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Reply #4 - July 19, 2016, 08:41 PM

There was another experience that sticks in my mind this day. This happened many years ago. I was out walking and a man came by in a car and asked directions where was the cliffs. So I told him directions where he could drive down the road to the park where there was a beach. Later I was sitting a swing and I heard a noise as a car accelerating and glass breaking. A man ran out of the building beside and asked what I saw. I did not see as my back was to the scene. He ran back into the building to call the police. A car had crashed down the cliff. I saw a man walk up from the cliff and he said to me "that was easy. I killed my best friend and I burned my church. Now I am going back to Trinidad". Then I saw two figures in long robes with hoods. There were no faces but just darkness. They took the man by the arms and they pulled him down into the ground. The police asked me what happened. I told what happened. They asked me if I was on any medication. But it turned out the man had murdered his friend and set his church on fire. They were looking for him going to Trinidad. Some months later a man hiking with his dog down the cliff found his body. After the police learned to take me seriously and ask if the person I talked or saw was dead or alive.

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Reply #5 - July 20, 2016, 01:57 AM

My experience with spirituality... I suppose this is the reason that I don't really believe it...

Hmm.

My aunts told me that on my mom's birthday, every year my mom appears in their dreams, telling them to take care of me because I didn't have a mom anymore. My aunts pretty much take it as their duty to help raise me, which I appreciate a lot. My aunts are rather... paranoids. They are afraid of a lot of things, one of them is even afraid of sleeping alone. When her husband is on a business trip, her daughter would come to sleep together, so my aunt would be able to sleep at night.

Now, one of the reasons why I don't believe in spirits/ ghosts is.... I find it strange that IF my mum's spirit actually do exist... then why didn't she visit me? I have never seen "her", not even once. I think that as her only daughter, I should have the priority. It doesn't make sense otherwise.

I haven't researched a lot into dreams, but in my experience, dreams reflect your state of mind. In other words, my aunts would remember my mom on her birthday, and in turn they dreamed of her. My mum died when I was 6, and for the most part, she was almost always gone. She's been sick for as long as I "know" her (as much as a toddler would know things). I don't have much memory of my mom, and I find it hard to be sad, or to feel a "connection" with her. I never thought of her on her birthday, because I don't really know what to think of her. That's why I have never seen her in my dream, or in real life (as a spirit).

Now, my aunts (as well as most people in this country) are superstitious. When my grandpa died, his body wasn't found for days. They decided to hire a "medium" to help the search, as well as hiring the villagers to help search for him. Anyone who'd find him would get some money. I don't remember now what the medium said, but it was pretty ambiguous and unhelpful overall. I still remember that after they finally found and buried my grandpa, we were sitting down and having dinner together - my dad laughed at the "prediction". Technically, it was kind of right. If you stretch the meaning, I guess that medium was "right".

I grew up very superstitious, because that's the way it is in this country. I believed in black magic, exorcism and myths, because in school that's what they told me and I believed them.

Black magic: There was a story about a guy, and when surgeons operated on him they found nails and sharp objects from his stomach. This happened a few times, because apparently these sharp objects keep on appearing in his stomach. Some people said he's cursed.

Exorcism: The usual story about haunted house... and the owner invited a priest/witch doctor to perform exorcism, now the house is okay.

Myths: On a school trip, a boy pissed on a grave. At the end of the trip, in the schoolbus, his testicles swelled up. My teacher told me that we shouldn't ever desecrate graves, intentionally or not. This is a warning before the schooltrip for us >.>
In Bali, menstruating women aren't allowed to touch "sacred" objects, or enter temples. There were numerous stories about people who disobeyed and they were haunted...
Church healing, those patients who are cured after hearing some magic sermon...

The problem with a lot of crazy stories that I've heard, even when my aunt said she saw ghosts - now I think they are nothing more than mental illness, confirmation bias, or paranoia that manifests itself into "ghost sightings". My aunt was told that the are is haunted, and she saw a ghost there.... okay. Meanwhile, people who weren't scared didn't see anything.

I've since found out that a lot of "stories" that convinced me of superstitious beliefs actually had real explanations behind them. For example, story about a guy whose stomach contained sharp objects.

http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-health-pica
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/knives-pens-batteries-patients-swallow-foreign-objects-cost/story?id=12035938

They actually ate these things, but they didn't want to admit it. And now it has become a legend: a man who was "cursed"...
Just like the story about some guys were "cursed" by having random objects up their ass.... Somehow they fell and the stick just stuck itself up their ass... But really, they just don't want to admit the true story because of how embarrassing it was xD

Well, that's my story.
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Reply #6 - July 20, 2016, 01:29 PM

Actually I do find that my mother never contacted me not even a dream in the past few years since she died, maybe she just never had a reason for it.

What else puzzles me is that I really do not have any control over trying to communicate with spirit. I cannot really make it happen too well such as when my friend asked me to help find out about her brother's murderer.

The third item is also if I see the future, what is the purpose when I cannot stop it. I was somewhere and I saw one man and thought he will die today and theis one will win the race. I could tell no one as it would seem the race would be fixed and maybe I would be blamed for the other's death.

All the supersititions, myths, legends are often just have the purpose to make people fearful. This is harmful. I did find that through doing tarot cards people often made themselves vulnerable by giving me information that I could use to convince them that I was actually doing something supernatural when I was not. Very rarely would my reading actually being out something that was supernatural.

Most of what peole think is haunting is really explained by nature. A noise caused by machinery or the wind moving a tree branch. Often people have dreams. What happened to me was entirely different and I believe to be rare.

My point in this topic is to show that the spirit survives after death in a positive way. I am wondering if anyone else has had a near death experience.

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Reply #7 - July 20, 2016, 03:29 PM

Quote from: Bee on July 20, 2016, 01:29 PM
All the supersititions, myths, legends are often just have the purpose to make people fearful. This is harmful. I did find that through doing tarot cards people often made themselves vulnerable by giving me information that I could use to convince them that I was actually doing something supernatural when I was not. Very rarely would my reading actually being out something that was supernatural.

Do people who come to you actually believe in tarot readings?

When I was in South Korea, the land of atheism, kpop, technology, online games, and fastest internet speed - I was surprised to hear that many people actually believe in tarot readings. Sometimes you see small tarot booths and you can get your reading done there. There's also some shows where they have a famous shinto/whatever-korean-religion priestess do some reading to the presenter. Must be staged, lol.

Quote from: Bee on July 20, 2016, 01:29 PM
My point in this topic is to show that the spirit survives after death in a positive way. I am wondering if anyone else has had a near death experience.

I see, thanks a lot.

I didn't mean to be negative, just sharing my experience. It's hard for me to believe because where I (used to) live, supernatural beliefs are commercialized by the government and indoctrinated to the people. urgh.

I'm glad you have positive experience with it though. It's always better if beliefs aren't taken advantaged of/enforced to people.
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Reply #8 - July 20, 2016, 06:14 PM

I accept that some people have different spiritual experiences and some none. I have no expectations, i just no harm to others.

Some people do believe in tarot/palm readings and other types of divination. They go regularly for reading but most serious and hinest readers will not somthem more often than every few months. Some people believe too much and are prey to those dishonest readers who will tell them they are cursed and extort large sums of money from them. Some people just see the readings are a source of entertainment and sometimes host parties where tea leaves are read. Some people woukd want me to read them and they were highly sceptical so much as to show hostility and block their colours from me.

Some people were attending the spiritualist church because they had a death of their family member and felt knowing their spirit was in communication was a comfort to them. Others would go for getting their lottery numbers. Some of the mediums runnung a service would try to give everyone a reading. Some use psychometry which is holding an object that a person puts in an envelope beforehand so they are anonymous.

I do not do tarot readings for other people and I seldom do readings for myself. There are some online tarot reading generators you can try. I like facade.

Most cultures have some type of divination or shamanism.

I only regret that I did not pursue healing touch because maybe I could help people.

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Reply #9 - July 20, 2016, 10:47 PM

I would say I'm a non-spiritual, atheist.

I'm not into spirituality because that concept has always been very vague to me. If I don't believe in a divine or holy spirit that is a higher power then what is spirituality? Of course that is very much within a religious framework.

I hear some people say the soul is the spirit, but I don't believe in a tangible or ethereal soul as such beliefs would contradict my atheism. I think the spirit is a metaphor for the undying will of Man but nothing more. I'm just not a hippy if I'm honest lol, maybe if I smoked weed, but I totally accept those that are.

What would you define as spirituality? I guess intimate, emotional love-making can be seen as spiritual.
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Reply #10 - July 21, 2016, 11:39 AM

Some people experience spirituality as a connection to nature and the earth and other humans as a whole or even the universe that gives them meaning in their life. I knew one Hindu man who said he choose the path of knowledge so he became a scientist.

I see the purpose of religion or choice of no religion but other belief system to be threefold.
1. To improve a person in making them moral, ethical.
2. Improve their relationships to other humans in a positive way.
3. To improve a person's relationship with the earth.

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