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OP - June 30, 2017, 05:03 PM

Hello everyone I'm an Arab Muslim from Saudi and I've left Islam for paganism like my ancestors before their forced conversion to Islam by the false prophet Mohammed. I've posted on many Islamic forums to convince me of Islam none were able to. So I'm convinced that Islam is false and am proud to call my self pagan.
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Reply #1 - June 30, 2017, 05:39 PM

Quote from: Mishael on June 30, 2017, 05:03 PM
Hello everyone I'm an Arab Muslim from Saudi and I've left Islam for paganism like my ancestors before their forced conversion to Islam by the ~~false prophet Mohammed.~~ I've posted on many Islamic forums to convince me of Islam none were able to. So I'm convinced that Islam is false and am proud to call my self pagan.

Mishael welcome to the den.,

Well Mishael it doesn't matter what you call yourself pagan or pagal.. what is important is be yourself be proud of yourself., As long as you live your life and guide your life with a very simple ONE SENTENCE RULE that is good enough., that will beat the shit out of all religions and their silly story books and their rituals

Now tell me

what is there in Arab Paganism that is not there in Islam ??
How come Islam is false Paganism is true?

in Faiths , If one is false means other automatically becomes false., The only difference between being the stories of prophets/messengers ...followers and yearly, monthly , daily rituals.. nothing else new dear "Mishael The Arab Pagan...".

And another thing I want you to note is "THERE WAS NO SINGLE MUHAMMAD IN ISLAM" ., As you know your mother tongue being Arabic., you must have noted that the word " Muhammad" is just a title it means Praiseworthy person ., For e..g I can say you are a "Muhammad of Arab Paganism in 21st century" ..lol

anyways again welcome to CEMB forum..

with best wishes
yeezevee

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Reply #2 - June 30, 2017, 05:46 PM

Well Arab pagans weren't uneducated barbarians they were smart and proud people until that murderer came along. There was even freedom of speech and religion in pre Islamic Arabia, but just like any group of people when Islam is introduced to them they start to slowly turn into Barbarians.
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Reply #3 - June 30, 2017, 06:03 PM

Quote from: Mishael on June 30, 2017, 05:46 PM
Well Arab pagans weren't uneducated barbarians they were smart and proud people until that murderer came along.

who said Arab pagans were uneducated and barbarians dear Mishael?? I fully agree with you they were NOT. Only the scoundrels of Islam and those who have never read Islamic history will say that dear Mishael., I am with you and I agree with you there

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There was even freedom of speech and religion in pre Islamic Arabia,

Yes they had freedom of Speech and nt only that women of Arabian peninsula of that time had freedom., The fact first preacher of Islam married a divorced lady older than him and had kids before she married him and owned business tells women of that time als had great freedom

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but just like any group of people when Islam is introduced to them they start to slowly turn into Barbarians.

well that is different story and it comes way after the death/disappearance of 1st preacher of Islam dear Mishael., Islamic history is completely screwed up by those who joined Isam and made into warlordism with Islamized politics .

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Reply #4 - June 30, 2017, 06:10 PM

I agree. Even the story of Mohammed being illiterate is false because of one fact almost everyone knows except, Muslims traders of that time especially Arab trader had to know how to read and write how could he be a trader then if he couldn't do those things.
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Reply #5 - June 30, 2017, 06:37 PM

Quote from: Mishael on June 30, 2017, 06:10 PM
I agree. Even the story of Mohammed being illiterate is false because of one fact almost everyone knows except, Muslims traders of that time especially Arab trader had to know how to read and write how could he be a trader then if he couldn't do those things.

when I am questioning "EXISTENCE OF MUHAMMAD" then whether he was literate or illiterate questions do not arise ., Well Islamic hadith has stories of many/multiple Muhammads depending who said what and who wrote what .. some good and some bad.

Quran hardly mentions that name .. one of those hadith muhammads could be illiterate.,for e.g. ALL OF THEM( MUHAMMADS ) WERE ILLITERATE WITH REFERENCE TO QUANTUM MECHANICS OR EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY OR MOLECULAR BIOLOGY dear Mishael

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Reply #6 - June 30, 2017, 06:59 PM

You know I'm still in Saudi Arabia but I don't fear them so don't worry about me.
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Reply #7 - June 30, 2017, 07:30 PM

Quote from: Mishael on June 30, 2017, 06:59 PM
You know I'm still in Saudi Arabia but I don't fear them so don't worry about me.

what? You are in ~~Saudi~~ Arabia??

unless you tell me that you are "Mohammad bin Salman"., I have fears about you and many others in Sand land dear Mishael .. and I do worry about folks like you., because your well being is more important to others in Islam than yourself

with best wishes
yeezevee

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Reply #8 - June 30, 2017, 07:42 PM

Don't worry about me they want to kill me let them I have nothing that they haven't already taken from me.
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Reply #9 - June 30, 2017, 07:48 PM

Quote from: Mishael on June 30, 2017, 07:42 PM
Don't worry about me they want to kill me let them I have nothing that they haven't already taken from me.

Mishael talk to me .... killing /dyeing is not big deal.,.....everything that lives will die ...

they may have taken everything from you but you have something and many things that are useful to many people...

one thing you must have is fluence in Arabic Language .. So go explore Archeology of Arabia on foot .. write and teach the world ..

fatalistic method is not right technique to deal with problems dear Mishael

with best wishes
yeezevee

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Reply #10 - June 30, 2017, 09:41 PM

:parrot:Welcome. Maybe you could tell us more about yourself in the introductions?

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Reply #11 - July 01, 2017, 12:15 AM

Welcome Mishael. Be careful posting from KSA and make sure you use a proxy! I know that you said that you don't care and it's easy to let emotions take over when you first apostasise but there is a beautiful world out there for you to experience and enjoy. Don't throw your future away x
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Reply #12 - July 01, 2017, 09:39 PM

Funny thing I was debating a Muslim online he said that Islam derives from the Arabic word salaam and aslim which means peace and submission. Not expecting me to be Arab I told him that I'm Arab and salaam and aslim are two different words and Islam means submission not peace. He said a Muslim means one who submits before god, I told him where is peace there and I told him submission isn't exactly good. After words he avoided my question and wouldn't reply but I new he was still on typical Muslim.
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Reply #13 - July 01, 2017, 10:09 PM

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. I know that for myself, little comments and readings here and there had a cumulative effect on my faith. Never think that your words are wasted.

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Reply #14 - July 01, 2017, 11:47 PM

Quote from: Mishael on July 01, 2017, 09:39 PM
Funny thing I was debating a Muslim online he said that Islam derives from the Arabic word salaam and aslim which means peace and submission. Not expecting me to be Arab I told him that I'm Arab and salaam and aslim are two different words and Islam means submission not peace. He said a Muslim means one who submits before god,

well Mishael that is the meaning of Islam and Muslim means the person who submits to god .. ....Is it not??

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I told him where is peace there and I told him submission isn't exactly good.

why is it not good? I say submission to god is goooodd..... don't you agree with me??

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After words he avoided my question and wouldn't reply but I new he was still on typical Muslim.

poor guy .. Astagfirullah ......you are confused hell out of him dear Mishael ., by saying what you are saying essentially you are trying to make a Muslim Fakir in a Kafir...

correct me if I am wrong dear Mishael

with best
yeez...

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the beloved betrayed me and turned in to a Muslim
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Reply #15 - July 19, 2017, 03:50 AM

you are the opposite of me- and more logical.

I am so busy busting my head finding for reasons why pislam *isnt* true..

Whereas I should be seeking reasons why it *is* true-Nada.

Sigh my brain is my own enemy...
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