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OP - September 12, 2017, 09:57 PM

Why there are too many repetitions and retelling stories in the Quran? Why Allah repeats himself [Allah is male according to the Quran] in many verses and chapters of the Quran? If humans have a reason, intelligence and ability to understand then what is the wisdom beyond these repetitions and restatements?
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Reply #1 - January 31, 2018, 08:27 PM

Which repetitions are you talking about?

I know vaguely of certain phrases and ideas that are repetitive throughout the book, such as the constant assertion and reassertion of Muhammad being the messenger of Allah, and Allah knowing everything. These repetitions reinforce the belief in God and Muhammad the messenger, which is fundamental to keep his followers.

"Nothing lasts forever. Even the stars die."

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Reply #2 - January 31, 2018, 10:25 PM

Quote from: Aqua on January 31, 2018, 08:27 PM
Which repetitions are you talking about?

I know vaguely of certain phrases and ideas that are repetitive throughout the book, such as the constant assertion and reassertion of ~~Muhammad~~ being the messenger of Allah, and Allah knowing everything. These repetitions reinforce the belief in God and ~~Muhammad~~ the messenger, which is fundamental to keep his followers.

hello Aqua ., just to let you and other readers know ............ Quran mentions the word "Muhammad" only four times and those verses are

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3.144:    And Muhammad is no more than an apostle; the apostles have already passed away before him; if then he dies or is killed will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels, he will by no means do harm to Allah in the least and Allah will reward the grateful.

33.40:    Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Apostle of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things.

47. 2:    And (as for) those who believe and do good, and believe in what has been revealed to Muhammad, and it is the very truth from their Lord, He will remove their evil from them and improve their condition.

48. 29:    Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah, and those with him are firm of heart against the unbelievers, compassionate among themselves; you will see them bowing down, prostrating themselves, seeking grace from Allah and pleasure; their marks are in their faces because of the effect of prostration; that is their description in the Taurat and their description in the Injeel; like as seed-produce that puts forth its sprout, then strengthens it, so it becomes stout and stands firmly on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the unbelievers on account of them; Allah has promised those among them who believe and do good, forgiveness and a great reward.

so that word "Muhammad" is not used repeatedly in Quran

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Reply #3 - January 31, 2018, 10:27 PM

Oh interesting. I didn't realize that.

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Reply #4 - March 05, 2018, 11:42 AM

I've seen the words السموات والأرض repeated five times in a single Surah to the point where it seems the author of the Quran is mentally ill or is extremely stupid. And Muslims claim this is a miracle, what a joke of a book.
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Reply #5 - March 05, 2018, 03:13 PM

Quote from: Mishael on March 05, 2018, 11:42 AM
I've seen the words السموات والأرض repeated five times in a single Surah to the point where it seems ~~the author of the Quran is(WAS) mentally ill or is extremely stupid.~~ And Muslims claim this is a miracle, what a joke of a book.

dear Mishael what is the big deal about an Arabic poem repeating those words "السموات والأرض " ?? the author just used those Arabic words "Heavens and the earth" in a poem to praise ALLAH/GOD ..whatever and singing a song ..

please realize Quran IS NOT SINGLE AUTHOR BOOK... you know that well if you are an Arabic reader/speaker. hence I reject your assertion "that the author of the Quran was mentally ill or is extremely stupid."

after all it is book of Arabic sonnets ..songs and poems ., nothing more and nothing less but I agree with you that THOSE MUSLIMS WHO CONSIDER QUARN AS WORD OF ALLAH/GOD LITERALLY ARE INDEED MENTALLY ILL AND, OR EXTREMELY STUPID...

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Reply #6 - March 05, 2018, 03:50 PM

If they claim it was uncreated with Allah and was sent to Mohammed then they are incredibly stupid. The Quran isn't even a good form of plagiarism, it's a bundle of poems all mixed up together to create the garbage now known as the Quran.
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Reply #7 - March 06, 2018, 10:14 PM

Your bible is garbage, christian
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Reply #8 - March 07, 2018, 05:36 AM

I don't believe my bible has one word being repeated five times in a single chapter, sorry my God doesn't have Dyslexia like Allah.
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Reply #9 - March 07, 2018, 08:28 AM

Mishael, you're preaching to the wrong group of people.. this is council for EX Muslims
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Reply #10 - March 07, 2018, 11:43 AM

I'm not preaching just refuting a Muslim.
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Reply #11 - March 07, 2018, 05:22 PM

Ah, ok, not been around for a while lol
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Reply #12 - March 09, 2018, 08:09 AM

I am an ex Muslim by the way.
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Reply #13 - March 10, 2018, 11:50 AM

Quote from: Mishael on March 09, 2018, 08:09 AM
I am an ex Muslim by the way.

Mishael you are NOT just ex Muslim .. you are more than that., you exited Islam and entered in to Evangelical Churchianity. Unfortunately on some occasions you forget the basic preaching of that 30 year old Jesus.. it is not your fault.,we all do that in the heat of the moment ...

And did you know that

"The name Jesus is derived from the Latin Iesus, a transliteration of the Greek Ἰησοῦς (Iesous). The Greek form is a rendering of the Hebrew ישוע‎ (Yeshua), a variant of the earlier name יהושע‎ (Yehoshua), or in English, "Joshua". The name Yeshua appears to have been in use in Judea at the time of the birth of Jesus" ??

I did not....

I wonder whether you read anything on that "Gospel of Barnabas" ..

So what is cooking in Sand land and how are you doing?? .. often i wonder about this new young kiiiiiiiing with Pakistan's army and folks like Ashraf Fayadh and Raif Badawi

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Reply #14 - April 16, 2018, 07:39 PM

Yezevee jesus is the best symbolic figure you can follow in this world.
Unlike Muhammad, Jesus was virgin preached peace.
Muhammad was violent sex addict war lord.

I am agnostic atheist.
But I support Christianity.
I am ex.muslim too.

I support modern Protestant Christianity.
Fuck the pope.
Popey dude.
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Reply #15 - April 17, 2018, 05:10 PM

Quote from: Johnleesmith65 on April 16, 2018, 07:39 PM
Yezevee jesus is the best symbolic figure you can follow in this world.
~~Unlike Muhammad,~~ Jesus was virgin preached peace.
Muhammad was violent sex addict war lord.

I am agnostic atheist.
But I support Christianity.
I am ex.muslim too.

I support modern Protestant Christianity.
Fuck the pope.
Popey dude.

dear Johnleesmith65 ... long time no see ..how are you doing?
I 100% agree with that word you used in EVERY ASPECT AND IN EVERY FIELD OF INVESTIGATION. And there is nothing wrong in supporting the faith you like . As far as modern Protestant Christianity is concerned., How modern?

1500s? 16th century? 20th or 21st? And pardon me for deleting few words in your post that I think have no proof ...

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Reply #16 - April 18, 2018, 03:08 AM

I am fine. Thank you yezevee
Hope you are doing good too.
I have you in my mind always.
just busy in life.
And you are right, there is no proof of existence of Jesus or Muhammad.
But I am comparing the personality of Jesus and Muhammad, what we have today in light of scriptures and texts.
And I support 21st century Protestantism, progressive and tolerant.
Religion is not that important in this modern age, but just for sake of society, I won’t mind people following some moral structure.
I like one thing about nonviolent religions, they put boundaries and limitations in people life. Which is not bad at all.
Just look American culture, now lack of religion is creating lot of problems here.
Rise of socialism and communism, people smoking weed and living on welfare.
So I believe, lower iq people should have some sort of religion to follow, to keep them in boundaries and make them productive.
Meanwhile higher iq people can also constrain themselves without religion.
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Reply #17 - April 18, 2018, 03:11 AM

There is no absolute liberty and freedom.
Even this universe has laws.
I am authoritarian.
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Reply #18 - April 18, 2018, 09:28 AM

Quote from: Johnleesmith65 on April 18, 2018, 03:11 AM
There is no absolute liberty and freedom.
Even this universe has laws.
I am authoritarian.

John .... yes this universe and every universe will have laws and principles but you have problem in defining these words...

1) absolute liberty
2) freedom
3). authoritarian.

simple rules such as these can help to drive the life dear Johnlee

Power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely
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Do not do any thing to others that you do not want others do to you

Nothing is unquestionable however good a concept or an hypothesis may be there is always a room for improvement

well let me watch this guy first

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOEaea4u8_4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHqMZ2WCBaY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO3Q2MQmrQ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea_ss_YHDR4

yes if you are honest human life is difficult to live in self lies and reinforcing same lies

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Reply #19 - May 25, 2018, 03:45 PM

Quote from: Mishael on March 07, 2018, 05:36 AM
I don't believe my bible has one word being repeated five times in a single chapter, sorry my God doesn't have Dyslexia like Allah.

You repeated word "my" 2 times in a sentence, yet you complain about a fixed semantical expression samawaati wa-l-ardi because it repeats 5 times in a chapter? Sorry, but such repetitions (and at that rate if not even more often) are certainly found in other religious books (including Bible, I bet), as well as in other books, as well. You know, it's called literature.
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