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Reply #240 - August 01, 2024, 04:31 PM

pm finally came out to say something - but that something is more police powers against public protest and more advanced surveillance.

hooray?

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1819029113136394395
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Reply #241 - August 03, 2024, 06:41 PM

meanwhile, soft policing continues while football louts realise they can enjoy hooliganism without the football bit.

https://twitter.com/NUFCLC/status/1819448923268042796?t=DkaaGydmdvdwZiwG61lTMw&s=19
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Reply #242 - August 03, 2024, 06:47 PM

Thread on today's far right activity: https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/far-right-response-to-southport-outrage-30-7-24.385225/page-30

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Reply #243 - August 03, 2024, 07:20 PM

bbc news describing anti-fascists as 'rival protestors'. also using the terms 'far-right' and 'anti-migrant' for dumb racist mobs to give them some legitimacy.

clearly receiving instructions to report both sides of the story - because fucking racists need their story told I guess?!
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Reply #244 - August 03, 2024, 08:00 PM

Quote from: zeca on August 03, 2024, 06:47 PM
Thread on today's far right activity: https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/far-right-response-to-southport-outrage-30-7-24.385225/page-30

some comments about whether the mobs are local or bussed in. I'd describe it as a loud extremist minority resonating with a quiet sympathetic majority - sounds very familiar, doesn't it.
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Reply #245 - August 03, 2024, 08:55 PM

meanwhile at downing street...

https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1819483447653437923?t=dvKnq_KLneAWrjLM8Y-rJw&s=19
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Reply #246 - August 03, 2024, 09:27 PM

from the brexit archives, will self as doomsayer.

https://x.com/LizWebsterSBF/status/1819817013407002919
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Reply #247 - August 04, 2024, 03:55 PM

So this is going well: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/04/southport-latest-news-rioting-disorder-arrests-liverpool/
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Malaysia issues UK travel warning
Malaysia has issued a warning to its citizens travelling to or residing in the UK, advising them to “remain vigilant” and to “stay away from protest areas”. The warning, released on Sunday by the country’s ministry of foreign affairs, also encourages Malaysian citizens to register with the country’s high commission in London in order to receive assistance and information.

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Reply #248 - August 04, 2024, 06:05 PM

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bbc news describing anti-fascists as 'rival protestors'. also using the terms 'far-right' and 'anti-migrant' for dumb racist mobs to give them some legitimacy.

The bbc reporting from Bolton today: 'counter protest' and 'pro-British march'.

https://x.com/tedgbooth/status/1820138458737766888?

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Reply #249 - August 04, 2024, 08:25 PM

keir says they "will regret taking part" like a head teacher reacting to rude words being etched into writing desks. the limp procedural tone is completely unconvincing and will not deter anyone.
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Reply #250 - August 04, 2024, 08:32 PM

Quote from: zeca on August 04, 2024, 06:05 PM
The bbc reporting from Bolton today: 'counter protest' and 'pro-British march'.

slowly then all at once.

so the patriotic flag bollocks wasn't just an election gimmick - it's a re-election strategy too. I suppose I got what I wished for...
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Reply #251 - August 04, 2024, 08:52 PM

See also this convergence of the politics of labour and the racists:

https://x.com/SarahEdwardsTam/status/1818240122103484735

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-tamworth-mob-pelt-police-33392759

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Reply #252 - August 05, 2024, 05:50 AM

Bristol antifascists: https://www.facebook.com/FootballFansAgainstFascism/posts/896680542489317

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Reply #253 - August 05, 2024, 01:50 PM

saw the bolton post below the bristol one - masked muslim patrols are the opposite of helpful for the situation.
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Reply #254 - August 05, 2024, 03:39 PM

Quote from: zeca on August 04, 2024, 03:55 PM
So this is going well: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/04/southport-latest-news-rioting-disorder-arrests-liverpool/

perversely, britain itself has become more of a deterrent than rwanda.

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1820472129860559141
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Reply #255 - August 05, 2024, 03:43 PM

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saw the bolton post below the bristol one - masked muslim patrols are the opposite of helpful for the situation.

Time for something more like this then?
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this ch4 documentary on racism in the 70s was eye opening - mainly for the solidarity of british asians and the absence of religious separatism.

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/defiance-fighting-the-far-right

we really need a new british asian youth movement...

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Reply #256 - August 05, 2024, 03:58 PM

Quote from: zeca on August 05, 2024, 03:43 PM
Time for something more like this then?

south asian movement, yes! muslim defence league, no!

https://x.com/5Pillarsuk/status/1820558071309160705

talking of which, muddying the water by calling out islamophobia instead of simple racism is also not helpful. it plays into the hands of anti-muslim media types as well as splintering any united coalition against racism.

https://x.com/narindertweets/status/1820362767448043701
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Reply #257 - August 06, 2024, 10:12 AM

competent lawyer now on the airport case - alleging verbal abuse by officers, disabled bodycams and cctv leaking.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lawyer-family-centre-manchester-airport-33402805
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Reply #258 - August 06, 2024, 03:03 PM

some former police chief says:

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"This is the ugly face of racism, racism isn't confined to left or right... Most of the thugs involved in this couldn't spell right or left, let alone think politically"
https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1820752081264824468

true but the idea for labour is to criticise violent goons as beyond the pail while saying to non-violent civilised racists that their concerns are being heard.
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Reply #259 - August 06, 2024, 03:46 PM

Quote from: crumble on August 06, 2024, 10:12 AM
competent lawyer now on the airport case - alleging verbal abuse by officers, disabled bodycams and cctv leaking.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lawyer-family-centre-manchester-airport-33402805

The press conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EeHVfBIrPg

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Reply #260 - August 07, 2024, 08:26 PM

Today's counter-protests: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2024/aug/07/uk-riots-far-right-latest-unrest-southport-stabbings-politics

Accrington: https://x.com/Taj_Ali1/status/1821239213821444262

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Reply #261 - August 08, 2024, 08:32 PM

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It's more about why anyone should care what the people of faith think about Palestine, especially from those who may be from somewhere like Sylhet or Dadyal and who wouldn't be able to point Ramallah on a map (but may give you a lecture about the history of al-Aqsa).

Or to better reword this old post of mine, I have no time for the framing of the misery of Palestine as one for ''Muslim voters''. Or that ''Muslim voters'' should be consulted.
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Reply #262 - August 08, 2024, 08:46 PM

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talking of which, muddying the water by calling out islamophobia instead of simple racism is also not helpful. it plays into the hands of anti-muslim media types as well as splintering any united coalition against racism.

Lol haven't you got the memo yet? You're talking semantics because Islamophobia is racism! You need a proud third generation socialist and Oxbridge grad to sort you out:

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Apologists for Islamophobia play semantic games – “Islam is not a race” is their go-to jibe – but, as Warsi tells me, “discrimination is not based on the actual practice of your faith, it’s about a racial identity of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness”.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/27/islamophobia-tory-british-society-media-anti-muslim-racism

Yeah fuck those brown ex-Muslims and secular Muslims (many who have been on the left of politics) for daring to object to the term Islamophobia. You don't care about racism and are just playing semantics.
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Reply #263 - August 08, 2024, 09:20 PM

Quote from: zeca on August 03, 2024, 06:47 PM
Thread on today's far right activity: https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/far-right-response-to-southport-outrage-30-7-24.385225/page-30

You've posted this site several times. Is it some sort of localised forum related to Brixton or something? Why should I take special interest in views from this forum?
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Reply #264 - August 08, 2024, 09:45 PM

It has people posting with a long history of involvement in opposing the far right so I thought the thread on the riots might be of interest. If it isn't then fair enough. I think it might have started as a local forum but now it's more of a general politics forum.

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Reply #265 - August 09, 2024, 02:07 AM

it is interesting to see non rabid political threads on that site. a pleasant break from the incoherent noise on the larger platforms.
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Reply #266 - August 09, 2024, 02:25 AM

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Lol haven't you got the memo yet? You're talking semantics because Islamophobia is racism! You need a proud third generation socialist and Oxbridge grad to sort you out:

"semantic muslims are the real racists..."
"don't you mean pedantic?"
"you know what I meant, you dirty terrorist!"

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Reply #267 - August 09, 2024, 09:27 PM

Quote from: zeca on August 08, 2024, 09:45 PM
It has people posting with a long history of involvement in opposing the far right so I thought the thread on the riots might be of interest. If it isn't then fair enough. I think it might have started as a local forum but now it's more of a general politics forum.

Okey doke. Although you have bought this forum up before in issues related to Islam or blasphemy and my experience hasn't been entirely positive when browsing it.

But good on them for opposing the far right. I'd only add as a small point in and of itself is that someone who is anti-far right isn't immune from holding terrible stupid ass positions themselves.
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Reply #268 - August 09, 2024, 09:44 PM

Quote from: crumble on August 09, 2024, 02:25 AM
"semantic muslims are the real racists..."
"don't you mean pedantic?"
"you know what I meant, you dirty terrorist!"

I won't quit the day job and neither will owen, unfortunately.

Good. Islamophobia it is!
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Reply #269 - August 11, 2024, 12:07 PM

balaclavas might be banned at protests but not the niqab lol - this new govt likes to float unworkable ideas.

https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1822387298643636663
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