Do humans have needed knowledge to discuss God, revelation and creation?

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Do humans have needed knowledge to discuss God, revelation and creation?
Reply #210 - November 22, 2024, 06:42 AM

Is the Quran we humans have today from God and is it original? Yes, the Quran we have today is from God and the message in it is original. How do we know that? We know that because its message contains universal moral values for humanity to live and abide by. It advises humanity to live by its advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom. We have many copies of the Quran around the world from different times and places as well as many people who have been committing the Quran to their memories generations after generations. All the copies of the Quran in the human world are the very same except for copying, printing, book binding and other human errors or unintentional mistakes. There is no evidence at all of any deliberately made changes in the text of the Quran to pervert its actual message to serve some other purpose that is opposite of the actual Quranic message. However things need to be looked at in their own solid purpose based proper context and the solid purpose based proper context comes from the universal real world realities as well as the revelations of God when they are both understood by humanity in light of each other purposefully properly. Without making purpose based proper sense of both of these things in light of each other we human beings cannot really claim we understand anything at all as it ought to be understood purposefully properly. We human beings as individuals must do our best to try to make purpose based proper sense of the creation of God as well as of revelation of God by figuring out all the elements or components involved in their all necessary detail. That is we need to figure out the creation of God as a purpose based proper unit and its individual things as well as the Quran as a purpose based proper unit with meanings of its components ie its letters, words, phrases, sentences, surahs or lectures and chapters. So before going into detail of how the Quran proves to be word of God and how the Quran proves to be preserved purposefully properly to begin with it needs to be explained why we human beings need the Quran.

We need the Quran because we human beings cannot get anywhere worth reaching with things just by looking at them aimlessly and randomly and doing nothing much other than living our lives like rest of the animals. It is a very sad situation that the world is full of human beings but most of them just live their lives like rest of the animals or we force each other into living like animals. We cannot change this unless we decide to make each and every member of our human family a very useful person instead of trying to make each other useless people even if it means using incentives and if that does not work then using force to put each other on the right track. We need to do that because otherwise human painful suffering by hands of each other cannot be eliminated if let individuals from among us waste their lives away by thinking, planning and doing useless or distracting and misdirecting things which take us away from this vitally important objective, target, or goal or mission or by their thinking, planning and doing such things which harm and destroy human beings instead of bringing them life worth living. If we will let people do useless or harmful and destructive things to each other then we will end up in a huge loss which will cost us all dearly in form of our terrible painful suffering and destruction by hands of each other when the fact is we need each other to come into this world as well as to survive in a blissful, dignified and secure way in this world as a purpose based proper human community. This is why education, training and skills we need they have to be purpose based proper or they are not going to serve us as they should and instead they will be most troublesome and problematic for us as has been explained in detail already. Just by experimenting with things in the real world we can only learn about things as to how they work and why they do what they do for their continuous existence and survival according to our own baseless assumptions and understanding but we cannot know the actual purpose of their creation by their creator and sustainer nor how they are supposed to work or function or how they are supposed to be used for fulfilling the purpose for which their creator and sustainer has created them. For knowing the overall purpose of creation of things and the way it is supposed to be fulfilled that needs purpose based proper guidance from their creator and sustainer for mankind. This is why need arises for discussion about existence of God and revelation of God because otherwise existence cannot be explained purposefully properly.

As explained already things we observe in the created world tell us they came to existence with time from each other through chain of cause and effect. However, if we look into chain of cause and effect then it does not tell us how all this happened or started because chain of cause and effect is a designed process and not a random aimless and purposeless thing. This is why the question arises, was there ever nothing at all or was there always someone or something there which caused the existence of all that exists? If there was always absolutely nothing at all there then how could anything at all come into existence because whatever was there or not there had to continue forever and ever. It is because original state of existence or nonexistence could not change all by itself without some intelligent agent being there to change it. It is because things exist and they exist due to being designed that way therefore it is proof of existence of their creator and sustainer. This creator and sustainer had to be uncreated and ever existing or we end up with nothing at all and that cannot be true at all and it is not true because we the created and sustained beings are already here. Some people say the first cause has to be the simplest possible but that cannot be true because whatever is ever existing cannot be someone or something simple rather that has to be much more complex than what it created and sustains. Some people raise question about God as to who created God if all existing things need a creator and sustainer to come into existence and remain in existence. This question is logically inconsistent because if God also needs a creator then can that created God be God? Not at all. Likewise if we take the chain of creators of creators, then, each and every creator of a creator will also need to be even more complex, sophisticated and powerful than the one it creates so where do we end up? Back to square one. Likewise there are many questions people raise about being of God which are nothing more than nonsense. It is because only and only those questions are sensible which are purposefully proper. Random and aimless questions serve no purpose at all save showing the level of ignorance people have about thinking things through logically consistently. For example, people ask, who created God? Can God kill himself or die? Did God come into existence all by himself? Can God have family? Can God change his nature of being? Can God create something which he cannot manage or handle or with which he cannot deal or cope effectively etc etc?

The need for revelation of God for mankind also becomes clear by looking at humanity because we can clearly see how we work and why we think, plan and do what we do and the end result of thinking, planning and doing that. That is how we end up not trusting one another at all and we think, plan and do to each other what harms and destroys us by hands of each other. If we will continue living that way then we will continue suffering the very same fate by hands of each other for securing our own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense. Due to lack of trust we try to hide things from each other for fear of their loss. This leads us to invent newer and newer ways of saving our things from each other so that we are not robbed or dispossessed by each other or that our things are not stolen by each other. This fear can never go away till we create a human society in which we learn to trust each other purposefully properly. Just by our inventions of better and better locks and keys we cannot teach people to trust each other but if anything we are teaching each other how not to trust one another. This means we are living our lives the very wrong way and this wrong way of living is ruining us and forcing us to waste our lives on wrong kind of education, training and skills for all the wrong reasons. Due to this way of life we are always watching our own backs fearing that any one of us can back stab us or double cross us at any point in time. This is where our so far adopted education and training system as well as the skills we have gained from it have led us. We have managed to invent some medicines but people are always dying after terrible painful suffering worldwide because we have adopted a way of living our lives whereby all this does not bother us because we are keeping our things locked away out of reach of many in our human world. This being the case, can any of us claim to be a civilised person or a civilised human society? No, not at all. This clearly shows how we try our best to pretend we are civilised good people when the reality of the human world we have created or brought about is staring us in the face and calling us liars.

All this because we have ignored the right way of living our lives in this world. That right way of life is told for us only and only by our creator and sustainer in his message for us which he has given us for being a purpose based proper human community so that then we could bring about a human world that reflects life of paradise in this world. Let us ask ourselves some questions to help us understand why we humans need guidance of God to live in this world purposefully properly. If we read the Quran, we are repeatedly told all things belong to God. This means nothing at all belongs to anyone else. If nothing belongs to anyone else then who has any right to have anything at all? None. In fact we human beings ourselves are made by God therefore we ourselves do not own ourselves let alone anything else in this world. This being the case who can tell us who brought us about and why or why we have what we have? Only and only our creator and sustainer. This is why learning the message of our creator and sustainer for us is of utmost important for us so that we get the full picture as to what is going on and where do we fit-in in all this grand scheme of things. God has given us his message to tell us all what is vitally important for us to know to have a great life in this world as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom. Moreover he has given us the whole of his kingdom to make best use of all that he has given us in there.

We have heard people saying to each other, don't play God. The Quran tells people that God has created people to play God ie by showing our creativity through deconstructing what God has made and reconstructing it the way it benefits humanity the best. This is why we use God provided things as raw materials to make things from them which we find useful for ourselves eg we cut down trees and make use of them in various ways including making houses and furniture etc ertc. However humans do play God the wrong way as well ie they try to control each other for their personal gains at each other's expense and that is where playing God is not allowed by God. This is why it is called SHIRK or polytheism. It is not that people actually become Gods but that they are not allowed to make decisions against God's decisions and act upon them and thereby cause problems for each other. It is because you can only live by your own way of life or by way of life which God has advised for humanity. Living by way of life advised by God is about using God provided things the way God has advised and not misusing them or mismanaging them. By using God provided things God's way people can add value to things whereby they appreciate things in their value or worth in their own eyes as well as fulfil the purpose of God for which he has created them but by misusing and mismanaging them or using them abusively they devalue God provided things in the eyes of humanity as well as in the eyes of God. So one can see how vitally important it is for humanity to live by way of life advised for it by God and not to deliberately live by way of life one chooses for oneself or one will end up causing all sorts of troubles, not only for others but for oneself as well because what goes round comes round sooner or later. This is why if anyone claims to be a civilised person or society one has to be judged by this criterion alone. Guidance of God must be appreciated because God made the world and he knows each and everything thing about it in all its possible detail so who can be better than God in advising us as to how people can fit in with this world the best. This is why the Quran challenges mankind to bring a better book than the Quran if you are in any doubt about it ie bring a book which tells you a better way of life, a better rule of law and a better governing system than the ones told by the Quran. People don't yet really know what kind of way of life, rule of law and governing system the Quran teaches them so how can they bring about any better ones? The first thing one needs to know about something is, what it is and only then there is a chance of bringing something better. So if even the Quran is not yet understood purposefully properly by humanity so far then how can it bring about anything like it till it does? We have invented so many kinds of dangerous weapons to harm or destroy each other yet we have not used our brains to make purpose based proper sense of what is of utmost importance. That is how clever we are as a species.

Anyway before I explain the issue of originality of the Quran we need to become aware of some points which are often neglected or not given attention they deserve and as a result we end up confusing ourselves instead of understanding the issues or points. When we talk about God, people and rest of things, it is vitally important for a person to realise that each and every existing being has to play its own part or role including God in this grand scheme of things. Likewise when it comes to revelation of God, God plays his role and people play their roles so the end result is what we have. We know God is free of making errors or mistakes but human beings are human beings so they are not necessarily free of making human error in their thoughts or actions. From God's point of view the Quran can never have any errors at all because God does not make mistakes but from human beings' points of views the Quran cannot be necessarily error free because humans are prone to making human errors. The proof is simple, ask a person who knows the Quran by heart to read it and listen to it and soon you will come to know that the person does get stuck here and there. However when one makes a mistake if there is another person there as well who has also committed the Quran to his memory then he will correct him. Likewise whenever we write down things we do end up making mistakes but when we reread things or ask someone else to read what we have written the mistakes we make are caught and if need be they are corrected. So just as people make errors so people can detect those errors and not only detect them but if they so choose they can also correct them. All correctable errors therefore can be ignored as errors or mistakes. This is why as far as practicality or pragmatism is concerned there are no errors in the Quran at all because they can be detected and corrected if humanity so decides. When God says he will preserve the Quran this is what it means because it cannot be any other way. No human is free of possibility of making human errors because our whole life is based upon idea of learning by trial and error method. Just bring to your mind when you were just a baby or watch any other baby growing and soon you will come to know how many mistakes we humans make and repeatedly till we become learned and wise after a lot of practice. So as we grow we do overcome a lot of mistakes or in other words we grow out of those mistakes. So let us now look at the Quranic copies that we have around the world in a bit of detail to see how the existing copies of the Quran prove to us human beings that the Quran we have today is original and all claims by ignorant people that the Quran has been changed are false.

Regardless let us first look at the way the Quran was written down in ancient format of writing. If one gathers ancient copies of the Quran that still exist today around the world, one will see in them a particular or a special way of writing the Quranic text. For example, in those copies we will see that they do not have short or very long vowel marks as well as various other marks. Such as are called tashdeed, madda, jazm, damma, kasra or fatha etc etc in Arabic. They also have no dots in them to distinguish some alike shaped letters from each other. One can clearly see that BAA, TAA, SAA etc use exactly the same shape of a letter. Likewise JEEM, HAA and KHAA use the very same letter shape, DAAL and ZAAL, RAA and ZAA, SEEN and SHEEN, SWAAD and DWAAD, TWAA and ZWAA, AIN and GHAIN, FAA and QAAF are written using the very same shape. This is most important point to note. The question one has to ask oneself is, is it possible for any person at all to read such a text that is written down this way unless one already knows the actual message in this kind of text format? My answer is, no, it cannot be read no matter how hard one tries unless one is already very much familiar with the message in the text. What does this prove beyond a shadow of doubt? It proves the Quran we have today in its written form has come from the original source ie directly from the final prophet and messenger of God. Not only that it also proves beyond a shadow of doubt that the Quran we have today was transmitted by the final prophet and messenger of God in two completely independent ways or channels. a) through memory ie people had committed the Quran to their memories directly from the final prophet and messenger of God and b)through writing and again directly from the final prophet and messenger of God. The vitally important points in this regard for people to understand are: The way the Quranic text was written down could not be read unless the Quranic text was fully memorised by people. If anyone thinks it could be read then go ahead and try it yourself in your very own mother tongue. Ask someone to write something down for you in that format without telling you what one is writing and then you try and read it yourself. You will soon find out that you cannot make any head or tail of such a text in its written format. But how does this prove the Quran we have today is original? It is because the Quranic text we find in the existing copies of the Quran proves, it could not have been written down by people from their own memories alone as individuals. Not only that but one can try and do so oneself and one will fail badly even today. So the claim by Muslims that they can recreate the Quranic text merely from their memories if all written copied of the Quran somehow became destroyed is false. Why? Because there are some particular problems which people face when someone dictates the Quranic text from one's memory for others to write or copy it down in writing. The question is, what are those problems?

Those problems are different ways of writing a particular piece of Quranic information. For example, if I tell a group of people in a place to write down a number eg number three. Will the person write 3 as a digit or as a word three? You will agree that some could write it down 3 as a digit and others could write it down as a word three. This is why if the Quran was copied the same way from dictation by someone from one's memory then people could write it down in different ways. Likewise if I told a person to write down ALAF then one could end up writing down the letter alaf or the word alaf or number one because alaf also has an alphanumerical value, which is one or1. In the quran we have many surahs which contain some letters in their beginnings eg surah 2 al baqarah starts with ALAF, LAAM and MEEM letters. So if a group of people was told to write down alaf, laam, meem then what do you think people will write down? Letters alaf, laam and meem or words alaf laam meem? Then in Arabic language we have some words that can be written with different spellings or letters eg word SIRAAT can be written either by using letter SEEN or SWAAD. So if a group of people were told to write down word SIRAAT what do you think people will write down? SIRAAT with letter SEEN or siraat with letter SWAAD? You will agree that some will write down word siraat with letter seen and others will write down word siraat with letter swaad. The same is true in case of words like BASTATUN or MUSAITIR etc ie they too can be written using either of the letters ie seen or swaad. Again you will be forced by reason to agree that some could write down these words with letters seen and others with letter swaad. It is just as we write an English word REALISE with letters S or Z ie REALIZE. Not only this but there are borrowed words in each and every human language from other languages which can be written down in different ways eg see in English in how many different ways people spell word MUHAMMAD or QURAAN ie they write it as mohammed or mohamed and so on and so forth or QURAN or KORAN etc etc. Can you therefore see the problems when people have to read a text from an awkward way of writing without having it in their memories? Likewise can you see the problems if a group of people is told to write some information down from their memories? This will create a lot of variations or differences between people whether they memorise some information or write it down unless they memorised it and wrote it down exactly the same way right from the very beginning or original source. This is how the Quran proves to be preserved perfectly and purposefully properly beyond a shadow of doubt.

Now the big question, in the existing copies of the Quran worldwide which are from different times and places, do we find any such fatal differences at all? The answer is no, none at all. They are all exactly the same anyone can check them from anywhere in the human world. This is impossible to happen unless all copies of the Quran were copied from the copies exactly the same way. This explanation proves beyond a shadow of doubt that the Quran we have today is exactly the same. This claim can also be verified by looking at the Quranic text in written form and reading it out from one's memory. Despite coming down to us in two completely independent ways or channels the overall Quranic information remains exactly the same. A clear proof that the Quran we have today has been preserved perfectly and purposefully properly except for some copying mistakes or errors by the copiers of the Quran or printing errors by the printers of the Quranic copies or book binding errors by those who bound the printed pages of the Quran in the book form the wrong way etc etc.

This proves beyond a shadow of doubt that the claims made by ignorant Muslims and non-Muslims about the changed Quran are utterly false. Muslims have been spreading false information about the Quran in order to defend confusing reports in the Ahaadith books and non-Muslims have been using the very same reports to discredit the final prophet and messenger of God, the Quran and Islam etc. Before I move onto errors in the copies of the Quran around the world, it should be born in minds of people that God works with his creatures in the world he has created. This is why when God plays his part in wider scheme of things he makes no mistakes but his human creatures have no immunity against making unintentional mistakes called human errors. Even though God revealed his message to his final prophet and messenger in the form of the Quran and his prophet and messenger preserved it perfectly in form of a memorised information as well as in form of a written piece of information and passed it on through his supporters generation after generation his supporters did make copying errors during this transmission process. However as it is possible for human beings to make unintentional errors so it is possible for them to detect those errors and if they choose they can correct them as well therefore actual message of God does not suffer in such a way that it could be totally and completely invalidated or discredited. It is a fact that the Quranic copies that still exist worldwide contain scribal, printing and book binding errors. Such copies always existed and they are nothing new but it is time that I explained what are the features or characteristics or properties of these kinds of errors or why or how they occurred, remained and continued increasing till better ways came about to preserve the message and to minimise such errors in it. They will become totally eliminated once Muslims become an ummah again. These errors or mistakes occur when a person is copying a text from another copy of a written text. It is possible that a person puts extra letters or words or phrases in the text of the copy one is making or preparing. One can also omit letters or words or phrases and even sentences or paragraphs or pages by looking at one copy and turning the pages of the other copy from which one is copying. One may end up copying a letter or word or sentence or even a page more than once. Likewise when one is binding pages of a written text in form of a book, one may end up missing some pages or putting extra pages or one may end up putting the pages in wrong order or upside down etc etc. It is because human mind does not remain fully attentive at all times when one is doing something continuously. This is how human errors occur or take place and are found in almost each and every copy of the Quran. In the printed copies printing related errors occur eg misprints are found in copies even today.

The good thing is such errors are always detectable and are detected by people who read the Quran from those copies and inform the publishers or printers or scribes of the copies. These errors are detectable because of their fixed characteristics. Such errors are also correctable because they are clearly obvious. It is because if any letters are added to words or are omitted from the words then words cannot be read correctly as words. Likewise additions and omissions or disordering of words in sentences render sentences senseless and if any pages are missed then continuity of the text becomes disturbed. So just as preventing human errors is not possible for human beings so human beings are good at detecting human errors. It is then up to people to correct these correctable errors or not to bother but make later copies better. This is what printers and publishers do ie they correct errors made in earlier copies of the books in later copies they produce of the same text. No doubt the Quran claims that the Quran will remain intact but since God does things through things so where people are involved in program of God things will happen the way they should. God does not make mistakes through absent mindedness or lack of attention but people do therefore when it comes to people they can make mistakes in memorising or copying the Quran but they can also detect and correct those mistakes they may make in this regard. All because only God is God and humans can only be humans at their best. Humans are not supernatural beings otherwise such errors by human beings could not have taken place at all. This is how the Quranic text has been kept in its original form by God and his human creatures. These like things also expose such people who claim supernatural powers among religious folk and foolish people who flock around them looking for all kinds of miraculous or magical help from them which they cannot do. If religious holy people or saints for that matter had any supernatural powers will they not make sure there are no any copying errors in their God sent holy books supernaturally? What else could be more important for them than doing that? Likewise if holy people could move about freely between the heaven and the earth or if they could control any supernatural hidden beings, could they then not tell us how the world looked like from up high very long ago as scientist have discovered it today? Their such claims are clearly false and only foolish people accept their nonsense and take it seriously due to their ignorance and lack of knowledge. Moreover if human beings had any superpowers they will have interpreted the book from God correctly right from the very beginning and there will not be any need for its reinterpretations all the time as humanity learns more and more sense because of making new discoveries through its continuous explorations. All this clearly shows people have been raising false claims always and that we need to become sensible enough to become aware of them and disregard them instead of being fooled by them.

The other facts people must realise about the Quranic text are, its text has a unique style the way it is put together and read out as a speech or lecture or talk and likewise it has its own unique written style as well which does not follow normal writing styles. Moreover any errors in any copy of the Quran are always correctable because copies with errors can be compared with each other as all copies cannot necessarily have exactly the same errors in them from all times and places. Moreover later copies can be compared with the earlier ones if need be and vice versa. Not only that but written copies can be tested against memorised version and the memorised version can be tested against the written version. However such exercises should be carried out every now and then by people at ummah level and not at individual level. At individual level people should inform the authorities responsible for publishing of the Quranic text to keep the scribal, printing or book binding errors to a bare minimum. Unintentional human errors in the copies of the Quran make no difference to the validity of the Quranic text because the original message of the Quran as a whole remains intact despite such kind of errors. There is no proof at all in the existing copies of the Quran around the world for any deliberate changes in the Quranic message. All errors found in the existing copies of the Quran are unintentional and not deliberate. Unintentional errors occur from human beings naturally but to make deliberate changes one has to have an agenda to make purpose based changes in a piece of information to suit one's agenda so that the agenda or purpose of the existing information could be diverted from what it is, to what serves the agenda of the person who makes deliberate changes to the information. There is no sign of such fatal changes in any existing copy of the Quran around the world. This is a clear proof that the Quranic text has been preserved perfectly and purposefully properly for all practical purposes. Human errors found in the copies do not invalidate the originality of the Quranic text as we have it.

So far why some of the errors occurred in the Quranic text has been explained but how they kept on increasing remains to be explained. As explained already how errors occurred in the Quranic text some people have used these errors and corrections to claim variant readings of the Quran which are taken by ignorant Muslims and non-Muslims alike as different versions of the Quranic text. In fact so called Muslims go a step further and claim God has revealed the Quran in so many different versions. The problem with such claims is, there is no any such proof in the Quran itself that God has revealed the Quran in so many different versions. No sensible person can expect that God will reveal a number of versions of the Quran yet he will fail to mention them in the Quran. Moreover what sensible purpose could those versions serve which the version we have could not? Then we are told these versions could be any number of versions eg seven or ten or thirty or more. What it means is that we have only one version with us and all the rest are lost. So we have lost six parts if there were seven versions or twenty-nine parts if there were thirty versions etc etc. All this means there were never any different versions of the Quran to begin with. How could God ignore mentioning his revealed versions if he did reveal them? Also why God needed to reveal different multiple versions? By looking at information which is categorised as different versions of the Quran one can understand the mistake people made in their understanding of things in this regard. People who talk about different readings or different versions of the Quran show they had no idea about origin and development of human language or how human errors occur in a message or how people come together and fall apart and how all this effects what kinds of changes in things. Had they understood such things clearly then they could not have called copies of the Quran with errors as different versions of the Quran. The other fact is, the Quranic text is fixed but it can have various parallel meanings, interpretations and explanations as already explained and they all fit in with each other when they are looked at purposefully properly. So these variations cannot be taken as different readings and versions of the actual Quranic text but as eloquence of the Quranic text. That is because some words are more capable of expressing more intended meanings for clarity of things whereas other words are better at expressing precise meanings and uses. It is because the very same word can have many different meanings and uses as well as so many intended meanings therefore those meanings can be expressed by using the very same word which reduces need for extra text. That is because some words are more comprehensive as well as some words are more precise. This is why some words can be used in places of other words because they can serve the intended purposes better in a text.

Let us now try and understand some other basic things which are also vitally important in this regard. People who come together from different backgrounds or areas clearly show the problems when they try to talk to each other. For example, try and see how an Arab speaks in English or try and see how a Punjabi person speaks English. It shows that people who are used to speaking their own mother tongue if they are not brought up speaking a different language then this could cause them problems when they try to speak a different language after their growing up because their minds and bodies become programmed that way. This is why it takes a lot of conscious practice to change habits when such a need arises because mind and body parts become programmed with practice. For example, if we have developed some bad habits during growing up they stay with us for lifetime. If anything needs changing it becomes a big problem. We can develop bad habits for driving the car and if we are forced to change them then we have to consciously work at them till we have replaced them. The same is the case with human languages. Ask an Indian Punjabi person to say word TABLE, he will say TEVAL. He will find it easier to say WAA instead of BAA. ask him to say ZERO, he will say JEERO. Likewise if we ask an Arab to say Pakistan, he will say Bakistan. If we ask an Englishman to say letter TAA as it is in Arabic, he will say taa as it is in word tea because there is no Arabic TAA sound in English language. The same is true about people who claim to speak the same language ie they have their own local meanings for certain words.

So people need to become aware of the fact that just because we give a name to a language and its people it does not mean all speakers of that same language speak exactly the same language exactly the same way or with exactly the same understanding or meanings of words etc etc. There occur many variations about it between the people of different areas. If we talk about letters or alphabet set of Arabic, we will see people wrote letters in different ways eg different Arabs wrote letter FAA differently ie some placed a dot above it and others below it. Likewise different people pronounced Arabic letters differently eg ask an Egyptian to say letter JEEM, he will say GEEM. He will pronounce letter J like the letter G as it sounds in word JUG. Likewise for some Iraqi or Kuwaiti Muslims letter QAAF sounds like letter GAAF. In Urdu language we have both sounds. So these linguistic differences are also found in the Quranic copies. Why? Because there was a time when Muslims were a single purpose based proper human community during lifetime of the final prophet and messenger of God but then after him they fell apart into rival groups so their future generations did things according to their own smaller communities as they saw fit. This is why there occurred differences between copies of the Quran. These differences increased with time as people divided more and more into smaller and smaller groups. This is why these differences which are of minor nature cannot become eliminated till Muslims see the need for a central authority between them for this purpose or they reunite as an ummah once again and remain united. Now if on this basis one claims different readings or different versions of the Quran then they are as many versions of the Quran as many copies of the Quran there are or one can find. But as I already explained these sort of errors do not invalidate the Quran because if a learned or knowledgeable Muslim sits down and tries to correct all these errors then one can easily do that as explained in detail already. Likewise if Muslims decided to have a central authority for this task that too can carry out such a work.

It is because every now and again some individuals have been writing books which contain all the needed information as to how or when certain errors occurred or why. So its only a matter of doing things in reverse order to undo them. This is why the Quran remains intact for all practical purposes and if anyone claims that the Quran has been changed then one is clearly mistaken or lying due to some agenda against humanity due to one's ignorance about the actual issue. It is because there is no any fatal problem with text of the Quran and its transmission at all. The only problem with the actual text of the Quran is, its purpose based proper understanding by humanity which it has not undertaken yet as it should have and that is only because people are not yet bothered with preparing themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon its purpose based proper guidance purposefully properly so that they could reach heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as a purpose based proper human community in this world in kingdom of their creator and sustainer and so that they could have yet better hereafter as promised by the Quran for all their very hard works in here in this world. Not only the Quran has been misinterpreted and misrepresented according to the prevailing superstitious beliefs and practices of humanity but so have been misinterpreted and misrepresented Hadith and Fiqh whereas they were supposed to be explained in light of real world realities because the Quran repeatedly tells humanity to do that by telling mankind about the purpose for which it has been revealed for them by God which is all about explaining the real world realities in sense of their purpose of creation and the way that purpose can be fulfilled by mankind by their purpose based proper use of them by them. The day mankind start making sense of these purpose based proper sources of information purposefully properly their problems with each other will become solved and the human world will become and remain the way it should be ie united, peaceful, progressive and prosperous and so God will become and remain pleased with his human creatures for carrying out his provided purpose based proper program for them and humans will become and remain pleased with their creator and sustainer for giving them his purpose based proper program to carry out by accomplishing its goals according to his provided guidelines and so people will become and remain pleased with each other as well. All this is told in the Quran already.

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Reply #211 - November 22, 2024, 06:45 AM

Deen of Islam is anti religion and anti secularism but why?

It is because religion and secularism both are man-made and they have been brought about by dominant and leading people to cause harm and destruction to rest of people in human populations for securing their own individual petty personal gains from them so deen of Islam was revealed by God for humanity so that mankind replace them with it for ensuring their own well being through help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly according to it instead of rivalling each other for securing their own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense. As I explained already religion and secularism are almost as old as humanity itself because mankind were not given purpose based proper guidance by God till human beings could understand things and at least some were able to make purpose based proper sense of creation and revelation of God in light of each other purposefully properly. Early humans learned what they learned from natural world because they did not have any other source of learning. This is why they lived just like other animals but as they interacted with each other and with other things in their environment, they did learn a lot of sense by copying other things but it was not enough to help them live in this world purposefully properly till God gave humanity his purpose based proper guidance for this purpose. People did believe in a higher force or being even before God formerly introduced himself to mankind but they assumed a God who was just like their rulers who solved their problem the way it suited the rulers and not the way it suited people they ruled. The animal kingdom shows us our past very clearly and we are still like those animals even today. God sent revelation is still ignored by humanity at large for its purpose based proper understanding because rulers always interpreted and explained the messages of God the way it suited them instead of trying to make purpose based proper sense of it. This is why due to lack of purpose based proper education and training humanity has been going through bloody revolutions every now and then to change things for the better. In other words people have been learning things the hard way instead of learning sense of making purpose based proper sense of things the right way. This is why despite having guidance from God and many prophets and messengers from God almost all people are still as ignorant and stupid about message of God as were the very early human beings who were given the message of God the very first time.

The prophets and messengers of God were sent by God to establish his advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system in the human world in kingdom of God and they succeeded in doing that but only in very limited areas and only for a short time because people turned back to their old ways of life, rules of law and governing systems after their God sent prophets and messengers passed away. The very same happened with the people who claim to be supporters of mission of the final prophet and messenger of God ie people who call themselves Muslims. This is why even after the final prophet and messenger of God established the ummah (the purpose based proper human community) in the kingdom of God it also fell apart not long after prophet and messenger of God because people failed to keep up with the maintenance of the ummah in the kingdom of God. This is why even though we have the Quran we have no ummah but only in the name till humanity comes to its senses and learns the Quran as it ought to be learned once again to reunite to regain unity, peace, progress and prosperity. This should help people understand why Muslims are the way they are and this is not going to change till each and every person who claims to be a Muslim starts learning the Quran purposefully properly. This is why almost all people who claim to be Muslims are religious and secular Muslims and not actual Muslims based upon the purpose based proper teachings of the Quran and the reason is they do not study the Quran as it ought to be studied for establishing an ummah in a place in the kingdom of God. People who claim to be Muslims are as ignorant about the message of God as are any non-Muslim people if not more. This is why Muslims and non-Muslims are all living like animals in a jungle because that is how senseless people are supposed to live without purpose based proper guidance from God or without purpose based proper understanding of guidance from God. This is why the human world despite all its amazing inventions it has invented is still just like a kingdom of animals who still do not know how to live purposefully properly with one another and it will not know how to do that till it rediscovers message of God purposefully properly for itself because only and only purpose based proper message of God and its purpose based proper understanding can ensure unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind in a place in the kingdom of God and nothing else.

Why five daily prayers are wrong? It is because to begin with they serve no useful purpose for God or humanity. They are used by people for praising God by words of mouth and asking God for things they need. People can only praise God when they see need for praising God so they cannot be forced to praise God. Feelings of people keep changing moment by moment. At one time they like doing something but at another time they do not feel like doing something. So God cannot bind people to any strict practice when it serves no purpose for them. Also God cannot tell or force people to praise him because it cannot reflect nicely on God to do so. It is like a person is pointing a gun to someone’s head and telling him to say I am a very nice person. What kind of praising will that be which is forced out of someone by force. In case of God, he has to prove himself awesome to mankind to be truly praiseworthy in their eyes. He has to force people by his wonderful and awesome acts and works that people all by themselves appreciate greatness of his creativity. So praising and appreciating God’s greatness has to be an automatic and natural act of people. It is like you come across something wonderful a person has created and you appreciate it as well as its creator. For this reason God could never tell people to praise him. As for praying to God for seeking things from him, again God could not tell people to do so and then do not fulfil their requests or demands. God could only tell people to pray to him for things if he could respond to their prayers not otherwise. So the idea that God has ordered mankind to praise God and pray to him for things has been created by someone who lacked sense of making purpose based proper sense of things. The Quran does contain such sayings by the prophets and messengers of God as well as of other people but they are their wishes which are expressed by them to God. There is nothing wrong with expressing one’s hopes and desires or wishes and ambitions so long as they are not against God and humanity but instead they are for the good of mankind. For example, when we travel to some place, we wish for having a safe journey. When we start a project we wish for its completion etc etc. Moreover when our wishes come true or things happen as we wished then we express gratitude to God as well as other people and things which help us complete the project. In doing so we express our feelings with various depths not mere empty words which are forced out of our minds and mouths by force against our will. This is why five times daily prayers are not stated in the Quran.

Another reason why they are not stated in the Quran is because God did not create mankind to humiliate them just as he himself does not want to be called by bad names for he wants mutual respect between himself and mankind. Just as God wants to be appreciated by mankind so God himself appreciates mankind also when they think, plan and do something which needs to be appreciated and valued. God is not a monster or tyrant or bully or a cruel and brutal oppressor of the weak. This is why the whole process of creation of God needs to be looked at in a purposeful way in its entirety. This is why God rewards all for whatever part they play in his scheme of things. This is why God does not want worship in sense of pooja from mankind through empty lip service and useless ritual practices which benefit neither God nor mankind. He does not want empty lip service and flattering from mankind but actual appreciation from mankind by giving them things that truly make him appreciable for mankind. I will try and explain words a bit later as to what they mean in the purpose based proper context of the Quran including word SHUKR from root SHEEN, KAAF and RAA which means appreciation by means of purpose based proper use of God given things. Moreover it makes no sense the way people pray to God or say thank you God without doing the actual things God demands of them ie proper use of his provided things for benefit of mankind for sake of God. God has told people what he wants of them in the Quran. What God wants of people could not be known by people all by themselves unless God himself told them, this is why understanding the Quran purposefully properly is absolutely necessary for mankind otherwise they can think, plan and do what they like but it will not fulfil the purpose for which God has created and equipped mankind with all the tools and things to work with. This is why purpose based proper understanding of the Quran cannot be ignored if people want to have a great life in here as well as in hereafter. This is why whatever people think, plan and do in the name of God outside of the Quran all by themselves is not valid at all in the eyes of God and it hardly benefits humanity itself. For the reasons explained already the Quran does not talk about imposition of five times daily prayers at all. This is why it does not mention at all what is supposed to be involved in daily prayers ie what is to be recited in the ritual prayers and when as well as what are to be the ritualistic movements during the prayers and how they are supposed to be performed and in which order etc etc. In fact there is no mentions of such daily prayers and how they are supposed to be performed even in the Ahaadith books as a single continuous process. This should prove beyond a shadow of doubt for any sensible person to see the fact that five daily ritual prayers have nothing at all to do with the actual Quranic text and actual way of life, actual rule of law and actual governing system called Islam. The same is true about the rest of four so called ritual pillars of Islam of mullahs ie ritual prayer kind of worship of one true God, fasting for God, paying a bit of wealth in form of charity to poor people for God and visiting a stone structure called kaaba in Makkah in Saudi Arabia. All these like beliefs and practices are very harmful and destructive for humanity due to wasting time of people as well as due to misdirecting and misguiding people from actual objectives and goals which God has set for humanity to achieve and accomplish so that it could reach heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence in here as well as in hereafter.

So first of all let us see what so called praying to God involves. It has two parts. Part one involves praising God ie saying nice things about God to God as if to fool God by flattery by paying lip service to God. Why I say lip service? It is because we humans do not try to learn things which could help us understand the Quran purposefully properly so that we could know what God wants of us to think, plan and do. This is why we do not think, plan and do what God has told us to do and instead we do things which he has told us not to do. Yet we turn towards God and say things to God about God which do not really mean anything at all. Moreover God has created us to serve him by thinking, planning and doing whatever he has asked us to think, plan and do and not to take God as our slave or servant by asking God to do this or that and the other for us. We do this as if we are not workers or servants of God rather it is God who is our slave or servant or worker. God has created us for serving his purpose according to his plan and not that God should serve our purposes according to our plans which we have created in our own minds independent of God. The fact is, we humans have already been given by God each and everything we will ever need for doing our job assigned to us by God. This being the case, how right could people be in saying things to God about God or for asking him for favours? This will become clearer once I have explained this issue for people to help them understand it. In a way we are turning things upside down. Such like are the reasons as to why the Quranic teaching is anti religion and anti secularism. Regardless the other part of praying to God involves asking God for each and everything we want from him ie we have very long lists of our demands to put before God. All this is useless because God has already given humanity what it needs for fulfilling purpose of God for which he has created them. It therefore makes absolutely no sense to ask God for things which we already have from God including his purpose based proper guidance for us regarding purposeful proper use of those God given things for our benefits as a purpose based proper human community in a place in his kingdom. So after God has given things to us if we still do not have them then it is not because of God but because we have not learned the needed sense as to how to manage and handle God given things purposefully properly as a purpose based proper human community in the kingdom of God so that none of us suffers and all of us have a great life in this world with help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly for ensuring well being of each other. It is human beings who make one another suffer terribly by hands of each other due to their ignorance about God assigned purpose of life and the way it should be fulfilled by them. This explains why human beings cannot criticise God about things for which he is not responsible because he has made humanity itself responsible for thinking, planning and doing things for one another for his sake. We also need to think about what we are taking God as by asking God for doing things for us because we are treating God as if he is our servant or slave instead of we humans being servants and workers of God. We have turned each and everything God has told us upside down by misinterpreting and misrepresenting his message to each other. It is because we do not look at things objectively and purposefully properly in their own purpose based proper context. Our fault is we are not trying to understanding the real world realities and the revelation of God in their own purpose based proper contexts respectively in light of each other.

Our idea of education, training and skills is very wrong because in a way we think education, training and skills are all about knowing about things as to what they are or how they work and then copy them and do the same etc etc. If I learn how to make an aeroplane it does not teach me what is actual purpose based proper use of an aeroplane in a social context. Same is true if I make a medicine. This is why despite having loads of medicines we let many people suffer terribly and then die because of our withholding medicines from each other deliberately, so where does that lead us? We withhold food and water from each other let alone luxuries of life. All because we think it is our individual copyright or our intellectual property etc etc. Whereas the fact is we have no universal moral values to live by. How can we human beings be such stupid people when God has gifted us with all we have for the purpose based proper use of all of us? Did God claim any copyrights or intellectual property rights for giving us things we have? We did not create anything out of nothing at all rather all we have invented was created from what was already there when we were born. We ourselves were created by God and things we have were also created by God. All we have been doing is dismantling God made things and reassembling them the way they could benefit us. But when it comes to our benefits for doing that we have decided to withhold things from each other which only and only leads us to fights and wars with each other over those things which were not really our own to begin with rather they were given to us by God for serving his purpose which was to ensure well being of all human beings. This is why we needed a way of life, a rule of law and a governing system which helped us organise and regulate ourselves in a way that we ended up ensuring well being of each other with help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly. This is where the Quran provides us people of today with an indisputable solid foundation if we prepare ourselves for its purpose based proper understanding and following. We only dispute about the message of God because we have not prepared ourselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of our creator and sustainer purposefully properly. We choose such people as religious and secular leaders as use us abusively against each other due to our own ignorance and foolishness so they take undue advantage of us masses who follow them blindly. We use our available time in wrong things which leads us into more and more stupidity which in turn makes us do more and more stupid things to each other and that is how human world keeps getting worse and worse instead of getting better and better. This is why what we need to learn about is purpose based proper way of life, purpose based proper rule of law and purpose based proper governing system from the Quran which help us live in this world the right way or purposefully properly ie the way God intended for us and for which he guided us through his messages.

This is why no matter how much educated, trained and skilled we become or no matter how many degrees and certificates we acquire from no matter how many famous institutions in the human world so long as we remain confused about living purposefully properly in this world none of our inventions can help us live sensibly no matter how long we keep going along this path we have invented and imposed upon each other. For living purposefully properly in this world only and only God can help us do that through his provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind but only if we let God do so by learning his message purposefully properly and acting upon it faithfully. So long as we will keep God therefore his provided universal moral values out of our equation of life we will keep on making our lives hell by securing our own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense and that is the context in which God talks in the Quran regarding hell and paradise ie you live in this world the way God says then your life will become and remain blissful, dignified and secure as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom or you live your life your own way as you like then wait till you end up making your lives hell by quarrelling with one another over each and everything. So what God is telling us is very clear that you live for ensuring well being of one another as a purpose based proper human community then soon you will have a great life in this world by your own hard works but if you will work against well being of each other then gradually your world will become and remain a hellhole for yourselves. It is not God who punishes people but people themselves think, plan and do all sorts of terrible things to each other for securing their own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other's expense and then complain and blame God for all that they themselves do to each other. This is why understanding the very first surah of the Quran purposefully properly is very important and so are the very last surahs. God is praiseworthy because he has given people a way of life, a rule of law and a governing system which could help them live a great life in this world as well as to have a great life in hereafter as a reward for it. This is why mankind must seek refuge in God ie in the way of life that is revealed by God for them and not follow way of life the shayateen=harmful and destructive leading and dominant people want us to follow in our human populations. I will talk about shayateen, jinns and malaaikah etc at some other time as well, as to what these words mean in the purpose based proper context of the Quran. The Quran was not revealed so that foolish people make fun of it and burn it but so that mankind learn sense from it and do what is told in it and have a great life experience in this world and so that then they could be rewarded also for their such hard works in hereafter as well.

This is why before people read the Quran they need to prepare themselves purposefully properly for its purpose based proper understanding and acting upon that understanding. One should be able to see from this explanation how silly the Arabs look when they fail to understand and act upon the Quran purposefully properly. It is because the Quran has its own language that is totally different from what Arabs know. It is a higher level of use of human language by God which is purpose based and this is why none can bring a book like the Quran. Till people enable themselves to think at a higher level the Quran requires, they cannot understand and act upon the Quran purposefully properly even if they are Arabs. The Quran teaches people that they are all workers as far as God is concerned and if they will work for fulfilling the purpose for which God has created them then their lives will become great but not otherwise no matter how hard they work and no matter how long they go down that path. As I have explained already, living by religion can lead humanity nowhere. Why not? Because religion has nothing at all to do with real world realities instead it is all about empty words and irrelevant beliefs and ritual practices. People can sit and pray to God all they like but nothing can change because God has created this world on basis of cause and effect chain. This is why if one wants a child one has to go through a process whereby one can get a child. Otherwise no matter how much one cries to God one will not get a child. It is because God has set up this kingdom of his creation to work in a particular way which never changes as he himself tells mankind in the Quran. This world and things in it are not set up by God to work the way people assume they work ie miraculously and magically. This is why no hungry person can get food unless one goes through the related processes for getting the food. God has put measures in place and he has set up systems and structure as well as he has dictated procedures and practices so none can get anything unless one understands the way his laws of nature operate or control or govern the operation of the natural world and things in it.

If no version of religion can give human beings worthy state of existence, can any version of secularism and to what degree? Yes, secularism can give some people relatively better life to some degree but not to the degree the way of life, rule of law and governing system called Islam can. Secularism can only give some people some things on basis of personal gains at each other's expense at the most and not on any other basis. It is because through idea of individualism people only and only work for themselves and not for each other or for ensuring well being of each other. In such a society only and only those people succeed who have what it takes to succeed in that kind of setting in its own context and not those who are relatively less advantaged. This is why the more advantaged people take undue advantages of those who are less advantaged which creates a serious divide between those who have and those who have not so there comes about a gap and a divide between rich and poor or powerful and weak. This being the case as numbers of those who are less advantaged increases there comes about a terrible bloody revolution. This is why to avoid this situation the number of poor and the level of poverty is controlled almost fully by those who have power and wealth through various tricks and mechanisms. This is what forces so called successful individuals to contribute to their societies to remain in positions of power and have wealth at their disposal. Therefore even if they contribute anything to their societies it is not because they are good people but only because if they will not do that then people who have hard life will get upset and revolt or rise up against them and their set up system and topple it or dislodge it and bring it down. So rich and powerful people have organised and regulated their human populations in a way to keep things under their control as much as they can but the natural world is under control of setup purpose based proper systems and laws of God which keep upsetting and unsettling their artificially created balance and equilibrium always and forces change upon people be they powerful and rich or powerless and poor. This is why so far no human being has managed to control humanity fully and none ever will, so tells humanity the Quran. It is because if a particular people will pay attention to any particular people in order to keep them under their control then another people will prepare and rise up against them from elsewhere. So it is the best thing to do for mankind to prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer for them purposefully properly instead of ignoring, avoiding and neglecting it and continuously facing terrible consequences by hands of each other for doing so.

In other words God has set up this world to work in such a way that mankind can never take full control of it to take it in the totally wrong direction rather whatever people think, plan and do it will always lead the human world in the right direction be it bit by bit or in very, very small and unnoticeable steps or very, very slowly. If mankind could succeed in taking the human world in the wrong direction then purpose and plan of God could fail this is why that cannot happen at all. However God does wants people to learn purpose based proper sense and move in the right direction and quickly all by themselves to save themselves from all kinds of terrible painful sufferings by hands of each other. It is like a case of two babies who are put in two different environments. One is never sent to school or any teacher to learn things and the other who is sent to school or a learned teacher to learn things. One who is sent to school will learn things very fast due to being taught things compared to the one who has never been to school and never been taught. Likewise people who will learn from each other and who will teach each other about the real word realities as well as the Quran purposefully properly in light of each other they will succeed as well as fast and they will save themselves from a lot of terrible painful suffering by hands of each other but those who will not do so they will move very, very slowly on this journey of learning and discovery and they will keep on suffering terribly by hands of each other. The while humanity by passes, ignores, avoids and neglects the Quran their this situation of terrible painful suffering by hands of each other will continuously prevail and continue for them till they turn towards the Quran for their purpose based proper guidance by learning the required or needed or necessary sense of making purpose based proper sense of things. This is why the Quran is a purpose based proper teacher for mankind but this teacher has its own way of interacting with people. The Quran is a teacher because it points out things for people to learn about them or that it acts as a stimulus for them to inspire or urge or encourage or motivate or trigger or activate them. If we look at the process of teaching and learning as to how we are taught and learn, we will see that it is done the very same way. What a teacher does is, points out things for us to consider and then we ourselves try and figure them out in our minds in order to try and understand them. The very same applies in case of the Quran ie it too brings different things to our attention for figuring them out the best we can. So thinking the Quran is a useless book is not the right way of looking at the Quran because it is a very useful book for humanity once it is understood purposefully properly in its own purpose based proper context by mankind. The basic point the Quran makes is, don't live for yourself or for each other but instead live for sake of fulfilling the purpose for which God has created you. This explanation clearly shows limitations of religion and secularism in comparison to way of life, rule of law and governing system which are advised by God for humanity in the Quran so that mankind live purposefully properly in this world. This is why no human can bring about a way of life like the one the Quran suggests let alone any better way of life than the Quran. This is why no human being can write a book like the Quran even today let alone a better book than the Quran.

This explanation clearly shows all versions of religion and secularism are invented, imposed and used by rulers, money lenders and priest to control masses in their human populations with help and support of each other. They are used as a process and a mechanism to pass on the buck between themselves to fool the masses in their human populations because where rulers fail to provide masses with what they need by design they make excuses to them on basis of their religious beliefs and practices by saying things are in the hands of God so let us pray to God to put things right for us etc etc. Also they pass on blame to each other about their created problems which people in their human populations face and that way they confuse masses about whom they should actually blame for what they are going through. They can make fool of masses so easily because masses do not and cannot see and become aware of things the way they should due to their remaining ignorant and foolish or due to their leading and dominant people keeping them ignorant and foolish due to lack of purpose based proper education, training and skills so due to being foolish they keep on trusting their so called dominant people and leaders blindly so they keep turning to their secular and religious leaders and economic experts etc etc for solutions of their problems instead of turning to the book of their creator and sustainer which shows them how to get out of this ruler, money lender and mullah invented confusion called religion and secularism by organising and regulating themselves purposefully properly for solving the problems they are facing. This leaves them totally vulnerable and open to abusive use, blackmailing, exploitation and manipulation by both religious and secular leaders and their helpers and supporters due to confusion or traps they have created for masses to entrap them. This is how the Quran clearly exposes all kinds of ways of life, rules of laws and governing systems people have come up with or they have imposed upon each other or they have adopted so far, be it imperialism or dictatorship or authoritarianism or capitalism or communism or socialism etc etc. None of these can give people what the Quranic way of life, rule of law and governing system can give them. It is because all of these ideas are based upon petty personal gains for a few at the expense of all others in their human populations. This is why one should be able to see why one has to study the Quran purposefully properly in depth to get the hang of it or hold of its purpose based proper teachings. This clearly shows why Islam is not and cannot be a religion. The so called or so labelled religion of Islam has been invented by foolish mullahs or priestly classes on behalf of foolish ruling classes and money lending classes to confuse people in the very name of one true God so that the real way of life, real rule of law and real governing system called or labelled Islam by the Quran could be covered up or hidden from the eyes of the ignorant and uneducated, unskilled or illiterate masses so that that way masses could be used abusively by rulers, money lenders and mullahs without any reaction or bloody revolution by the abused masses. This explanation should leave no doubt in minds of people as to what actual deen of islam or way of life, rule of law and governing system called Islam really is. It has nothing at all to do with Islam of rulers, money lenders, mullaans, their touts and supporters.

This explanation also explains very clearly the fact that deen of Islam is only and only about ensuring well being of humanity from the very beginning to the very end provided people understand and adopt it purposefully properly and faithfully by acting upon it purposefully properly. This is why deen of Islam is actually from God for ensuring well being of humanity through their own help and full support of each other by their own complementing each other purposefully properly therefore it is an ideology which is all about human society, its politics, its culture and its economy and it has nothing at all to do with prayers to God or any other baseless make beliefs and ritualism or useless and time wasting or harmful and destructive practices. It has its own governing systems, structures, procedures and practices. Deen of Islam is all about people themselves organising and regulating themselves upon its basis or provided foundation for managing and handling God given land and resources or means of production and distribution as a single purpose based proper human family or community for serving God and that is what the Quran calls IBAADAH or serving one true God and this has nothing at all to do with pooja or worship of God through rituals by people and their singing songs to God and doing nothing except rubbing their noses on the ground and waving their behinds in the air and feeling good that they have done their part. Muslim cannot take over a people by sword unless forced to do so by non-Muslims because deen of Islam is all about supporting each other for ensuring well being of each other and who in the right mind can oppose this idea that one needs to take up arms? It is always abusers, exploiters and manipulators of humanity who benefit from abusing others who oppose deen of Islam and that is why they impose fights and wars upon true Muslims and that is the true position of actual deen of Islam and true Muslims if there are any. Muslims cannot need or want anything for themselves or others but only and only seek pleasure of their creator and sustainer by doing works which he told them to do to ensure well being of whole of humanity with full help and support of each other through their complementing each other purposefully properly. A Muslim society has to be a self regulated complimentary human society and not a society based upon rivalry or negative competition. If one learns sense of making purpose based proper sense of things and then reads the Quran, one will soon find out the Quran is not a book from any human being but a book that is from outside of this human world. However if people will not learn sense to make purpose based proper sense of the message of the Quran then they will never know what the real message of God in the Quran is for them.

However the more and more human beings will ignore or avoid or neglect or abandon or desert the Quran and therefore the Quran based purpose based proper Islam as a purpose based proper way of life, as a purpose based proper rule of law and as a purpose based proper governing system the more and more painful and agonising suffering will become norm for humanity by hands of each other over longer and longer period of time as a consequence. Such excuse is not valid for people that since people who claim to be Muslims do not understand and use the Quran purposefully properly so it has nothing to do with non-Muslims. It is because God if there is one is God of each and everything and it is he who has sent his message for all mankind so those who will prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accept and acting upon it purposefully properly they will have a great life in here as well as in hereafter whereas those who will not do so they will end up and remain in a terribly painful existence always by hands of each other no matter what. These are not threats by God but advance or forewarnings from God for sensible people to not to blindly follow each other into the hell hole which is dug by people themselves for themselves by not following advice of God at all. Deen of Islam is a true and real or actual democratic system because it is a party-less system wherein all individuals are equal members of the ummah or purpose based proper human family. What does that mean? It means power rests with rule of law of God as purposefully properly understood by the individuals in light of real world realities who can then come together as a purpose based proper human community and so they can appoint fully capable people into all the needed work places to serve them for God sake as all agree or in order to fulfil the purpose based proper Quranic program by accomplishing its goals according to its provided guidelines for fulfilling needs and wants of all members of purpose based proper human community. This system works like a referendum in which all discuss things and vote for each and every individual issue and the issue is decided on the basis of purpose based proper understanding of the Quran and the real world realities as well as needs and wants of people as individuals by a simple majority or unanimity. In a way it is bottom up system as compared to people taking over each other by force or by tricks or deceptive mechanisms whereby they create a pyramid of power structure to abuse weaker people from among themselves. So when it comes to bringing about a purpose based proper human community in the kingdom of God, if people cannot even understand the real world realities and the Quran purposefully properly in light of each other in the first place then could they or can they bring about a purpose based proper human community or create a book like the Quran all by themselves? Not at all. The Quran by making such points shows humanity, it is a book from outside this human world ie it is not written by human beings. It is because human beings do not think the way the Quran does otherwise they will not need it. Moreover if human beings could produce a book like the Quran then our human world in no way could be the way it is right before our very eyes ie in a terrible state of existence. It will have been a paradise instead.

If God has created this kingdom of his creation and people in it in actual fact then he needed to tell people why he has created it as well as why created them and what they needed to do to fulfil his purpose of creating them and he has done that. God is not supposed to react to what people assume, imagine and demand or his own plan will end up derailed. This being the case, why will God tell people for praying to him when he does not and he cannot answer their prayers as he ought to according to beliefs and practices of people as they imagine and assume them to be the case? Moreover why will God set times for prayers of people? It is because even if praying was ok, people will only praise God when they got good things from God and they will only seek help of God when they are in real troubles and truly need help of God. Not only that but if God asks people to do that then God ought to fulfil their demands or whatever they ask for otherwise why ask people for prayer to waste their time and energies in the first place? This is why it makes absolutely no sense to have five daily prayers at fixed times and with fixed wording for prayers because prayer should be depending on situations or circumstances of people themselves as individuals and as groups. Yet another point in this regard is, God has his own purpose and plan for creating us so if he listens to us or fulfils our demands according to our wishes then how can God carry out his own plan for fulfilling his own purpose? Moreover we each have our own conflicting demands because we are always in conflict with each other, so how can God please each and every one of us? Therefore it makes sense for God to give us all his standard and program to live by rather than he himself following our wishy-washy and willy-nilly wishes and desires so that we all could mould or bend or model ourselves according to him rather than trying to mould God to fit our demands according to our self created conflicting standards, ambitions and desires. When it comes to God, the Quran and deen of Islam; things only seem mysterious for us because we are ignorant about them in various ways. I have already explained why miraculous and magical event cannot take place in this world the way people at large think due to their lack of purpose based proper knowledge about things. This is why our laughing at the Quran by taking it as a joke exposes our own ignorance and foolishness or stupidity at most and by burning the Quran we are throwing our own future into the hell of our own making by our own hands.

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Reply #212 - December 15, 2024, 12:13 AM

As I have explained already God cannot force out of people his praise nor their prayers. If he does that then he will be deemed having little or no self respect at all. It is because true admiration and true request arise from the bottom of a human's heart who is either overwhelmed by awesome and wonderful works of someone or by need and want of someone who needs something desperately. When one comes across such emotional outbursts one has no control over one's emotions so one expresses oneself genuinely and sincerely.

When someone puts a gun to someone's head and asks one for admiration and appreciation or when one forces one to beg for things then one fears for one's life rather than thinking about what to say and how to say it purposefully properly. Moreover one's state of emotion is not permanent. This is why five daily prayers in mullahs' islam are falsely attributed to God because God cannot do such nonsense things.

Moreover if God wants people to beg for things from him then why does he not give people things they ask for? This means God is asking people to do things which are impossible for him to carry out because in a way God is asking people to order him around as they like in order to fulfil their ambitions and desires. Or in other words God is forced to follow guidance of people instead of people following his Guidance.

Also people ask God for things which are against each other so how can he please everyone by granting them their conflicting requests against each other? So one can see attributing such nonsensical things to God cannot be right as they make no sense. This is how mullah islam is disproved very easily and all their misinterpretations and wrong explanations of the quranic text therefore can clearly become very obvious.

This is why if the quranic text can be interpreted and explained purposefully properly and yet it is misinterpreted and misrepresented by mullahs then mullah are either ignorant fools or they are doing this on purpose for some hidden agendas due to their ignorance based arrogance because sensible people cannot do so.

Likewise if educated, trained and skilled people in various disciplines instead of trying to discover actual message of God for them from the quran they just keep arguing against nonsense of mullahs then they too are either senseless people or they too have a hidden agenda due to their ignorance based arrogance.

God has not given his message to mankind for fulfilling desires and ambitions of people rather he has given them his message to explain for them why he has created this creation and human beings and what he want of them and how they can fulfil that purpose or his assigned mission for them.

This is why the quran is provable word of God because the proof is nothing more than the best possible purpose based proper explanation of something. The quran therefore purposefully properly serves its God intended purpose.

Existence of God

If there was nothing at all to begin with then there ought to be nothing at all for ever. Therefore the creation we see all around us could not exist, because nothing cannot produce anything at all.

If there was something it had to be something intelligent with all needed necessary attributes for its existence as well as its actions. Since the creation exists therefore it is an undeniable proof that its creator and sustainer exists.

Since the creator and sustainer of this creation necessarily exists therefore it is also necessary that his explanation exists for those who have been bestowed with intelligence to serve his particular purpose of creation and that is because he has created things because he had a purpose in his mind for doing so.

So all mankind can do is try their best to make purpose based proper sense of his alleged revelation to make sure it is his revelation and that it serves the purpose for which it is revealed.

All concepts about God which are expressed by secular and religious people, philosophers and scientists are false and wrong. God is what he is supposed to be as is clear from his created things as well as his revelation. Both need to be looked at in light of each other.

So those who are anti God have they done their homework? If they have then they need to show it otherwise they are just crazy.

One has to remember that proof is an explanation and not an unintelligent object or fact. This is why the one who explains something has to be an intelligent being who can do so. This is why the creation is evidence of existence of God because it has been explained by its creator and sustainer.

What is reasoning? Reasoning is all about putting reasons together in such a way that they become a consistent explanation about something that makes sense. It is like putting all parts of a bike together purposefully properly so that one ends up with perfectly working bike.

This short explanation is just a reminder for what has been explained already in detail before I start my more detailed explanation of the quran text.

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Reply #213 - December 19, 2024, 02:20 PM

From my so far explanation of things it should be very much obvious that the creation of God and word of God both have to be most impressive which pleasantly surprise mankind and therefore force and compel or push mankind to truly admire, appreciate and adore God from the depths of their hearts in actual fact.

Why?

Because God is supposed to be an awesome and a wonderful as well as marvellous being so he has to be full of wonders and marvels as well as pleasant surprises therefore works of God be they his creations or revelations have to be miraculous ie most impressive and adorable for mankind.

Just as one appreciates any work by anyone or anything which impresses one and one is compelled to say something wonderful and adorable or admiring in its appreciation about it as well as about its creator or producer so one has to be pushed and compelled by works of God to say wonderful and adorable things about the creation of God as well as its creator and sustainer.

This is why mankind need to look at creation and revelation of God purposefully properly to be able to appreciate them the way they should be.

The alleged creation and revelation of God can either be looked at in light of each other in a way to prove the claims or they can be looked at in way to disprove the claims. However looking at them positively has priority rather than looking at them negatively. Moreover any work by anyone or anything which pleasantly impresses anyone is also to be counted as work of God due to being their creator and sustainer. However any work by anyone which is deplorable is not to be attributed to God but only in the sense that God has created the doer of that work also.

This is why one has to explain the creation and revelation in such a way that they make perfect sense whereby mankind are truly impressed and appreciate them as well as their creator and sustainer. Only if such explanation is impossible then one can look at creation and revelation for negating the claims made by the book which claims to be from God for the purpose based proper guidance of mankind.

One has to remember always that any piece of writing is not only dependent upon its writer but also upon its reader for its purpose based proper understanding. This is why all text are interactive and the same is true about the quranic text.

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Reply #214 - December 20, 2024, 12:15 PM

Surah 1 Al-Faatihah = The introduction

This awesome, marvellous, wonderful and miraculous Quran is the last and the final purpose based proper guidance from Allah for mankind through his last and final human prophet and messenger Muhammad to live by which will prove most beneficial for those who will prepare themselves purposefully properly through purpose based proper education, training and skills for making purpose based proper sense of real world realities in its light by seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly in light of real world realities. Therefore all such people in the human world who seek purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind and it is delivered to them they should receive, study, accept and act upon it purposefully properly therefore they too should pass it on to rest of people in their human world so that they all could join each other for campaigning, struggling and striving together for seeking refuge and protection or safety and security in the way of life and in the rule of law as well as in the governing system of Allah for mankind for establishing them in his kingdom for adopting and abiding by them purposefully properly. It is because this purpose based proper guidance is the key for opening the door for mankind for their purpose based proper biological, psychological and sociological development and growth for their purpose based proper existence by their becoming and remaining united, peaceful, progressive and prosperous as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom according to it by complementing each other purposefully properly for ensuring their own well being through reaching heights of excellence with help and full support of each other to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence in here as well as in hereafter instead of rivalling each other and striving against each other for dominance over each other for undermining each other for securing their own individual petty personal gains from each others at each other’s expense in order to fulfil their own individual harmful and destructive ambitions and desires against each other whereby they develop harmful and destructive mindsets, attitudes and behaviours against each other so that they do not end up harmed and destroyed that way by hands of each other in here as well as they end up in hell of their own making in hereafter as well. However if they will still end up harmed and destroyed by hands of each other in here then they will also end up in hell of their own making in hereafter as well by ignoring, avoiding and neglecting this purpose based proper guidance of Allah for them and then they will have only and only themselves to blame for that happening to them due to their not preparing themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly. For that reason mankind must prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of Allah for them to seek refuge in the way of life and in the rule of law as well as in the governing system of Allah for them by moving away and staying away from any other way of life and any other rule of law as well as any other governing system because they will be harmful and destructive for humanity because any such way of life, rule of law and governing system will be brought about and imposed upon mankind by harmful and destructive dominant leadership and its supporters and backers in human populations because such people in human populations will remain ignorant and become and remain arrogant and haughty therefore they will be hell bent upon destroying mankind by hands of each other for securing their own petty personal gains from them at their expense.

001] So O our prophet and messenger to mankind, deliver this purpose based proper message from Allah to them for their purpose based proper guidance as a purpose based proper program for them to carry it out purposefully properly as a project and task as an assigned mission for them by accomplishing its goals according to his provided guidelines for which he has already provided for them all things for their purpose based proper biological, psychological and sociological development and growth so that they become and remain united, peaceful, progressive and prosperous as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom according to it with help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly so that they could reach heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence in here as well as in hereafter.

002] It is because power to continuously and constantly as well as consistently inspire and deeply arouse awe and astonishment and thereby appreciation and admiration as well as adoration in minds of mankind to deeply impress, surprise and amaze them pleasantly by such acts only and only rests with Allah alone who is the sole awesome, wonderful, marvellous and miraculous creator and sustainer of all that exists in his kingdom of creation.

003] He who has already provided all things for mankind which they need for their purpose based proper biological, psychological and sociological development and growth as well as continuous existence so that they become and remain united, peaceful, progressive and prosperous as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom by organising and regulating themselves purposefully properly.

004] The one who decided to bring about a brilliant time period for mankind through their very own hard works and his provided purpose based proper guidance for them when they have prepared themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly for purposefully properly establishing and maintaining his advised purpose based proper way of life and rule of law as well as governing system in the human world based upon it purposefully properly by becoming and remaining a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom according to it through their own complementing each other purposefully properly for this purpose.

005] This is why for ensuring their very own well being mankind must give their sincere and heartfelt undertaking through their entering in a solid covenant with him by saying, we sincerely and wholeheartedly promise that we will campaign, struggle and strive very, very hard according to the best of our abilities granted by you to abide by your purpose based proper guidance for mankind and that way we will fulfil all our needs and wants in accordance with it as required by your set out purpose for us according to your advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for us.

006] So due to our giving this sincere undertaking to you it is our sincere wish and desire that you keep guiding us through your advised purpose based proper guidance for mankind because it is durable and permanent as well as purposefully properly stable, firm and secure for leading us to the way of life and rule of law as well as governing system which can lead us to our blissful, dignified and secure state of existence in your kingdom.

007] It is because it was your purpose based proper guidance for mankind which you also provided for people before us which advised for them purpose based proper way of life and rule of law as well as governing system which they adopted faithfully and purposefully properly so they ended up with your blessings in abundance by having blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as purpose based proper human communities in your kingdom because their way of life, rule of law and governing system were opposite of the way of life, rule of law and governing system of those who actively invented, imposed and lived by them as they liked so they ended up in a harmful and destructive therefore humiliating state of existence due to their rivalries and animosities against each other as a divided people in your kingdom and moreover your advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for mankind were also opposite of the way of life, rule of law and governing system of those who chose or decided to remain ignorant about them so they remained distant and kept themselves away from your provided purpose based proper guidance for them due to which they remained confused and lost so they ended up in chaos and anarchy due to lawlessness for whole of their lives.

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Reply #215 - December 29, 2024, 06:26 AM

In the Quran Allah divides beings in the human shapes and forms into two categories.

A) People who are nothing more than animals in human shapes or forms and that is because these like beings do not use their God given minds, senses and body parts and mechanisms to observe, think, plan and do things for becoming and remaining self aware and aware about other existing things so that they could ask the needed necessary questions about their existence and origin as well as the purpose for their existence so that then they could make needed efforts and so that then they could take needed steps to try to find out the needed answers to their those vitally important questions. Many people in the human world are said to be of this category.

B) People who are called human beings only because they use their God given minds, senses, body parts and mechanisms to observe, think, plan and do things for becoming and remaining self aware and aware about other existing things so they ask vitally important questions about their existence and origin as well as the purpose for which they exist and the way that purpose could be fulfilled by them.

The Quran discusses things regarding nature of being of God only to an essential degree but it does point out evidences and provides explanations about all that which exists and the purpose for which it exists and how that purpose is supposed to become fulfilled as planned by God. This is why the Quranic text is supposed to be understood in this very purpose based proper context and not in any other way or one will only and only end up messing up the understanding of the Quranic text for oneself and others which the Quran wants to convey to humanity.

Allah has created human world in such a way that each and every human being fully depends upon other human beings and things for coming into this world as well as for continuing one's existence in here, therefore he advised for mankind his purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system through his purpose based proper guidance for them, so that thereby they bring about and maintain a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom through bringing about and maintaining their own unity, peace, progress and prosperity with help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly for their own blissful, dignified and secure state of existence by reaching heights of excellence through needed necessary purpose based proper education, training and skills for organising and regulating themselves purposefully properly for this very end goal.

This is why he gave mankind his purpose based proper manifesto and program to carry it out purposefully properly by accomplishing its goals according to his provided guidelines. This being his required outcome and his expected end result for his provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind so he tells mankind to give up their disunity by uniting themselves by giving up all their disputes, rivalries, animosities, hatred, conflicts, discords, fights and wars between themselves. However this can only be possible through purpose ebased proper education, training and skills if people are psychologically prepared for giving up their individual petty personal gains which they secure from each other at each other's expense whereby they end up harmed and destroyed by hands of each other.

Since people need to be brainwashed, indoctrinated and conditioned for this noble purpose hence the need for a noble ideology which is perfectly capable of helping mankind do that in order to help them become a purpose based proper human family in this world. This is why the Quran wants mankind to give up their disunity, discords, disagreements, dissensions, rifts, conflicts, fights and wars between themselves. This is what pledge and declaration of faith in the Quran and Islam is all about whereby people declare their commitment to this cause to accomplish this objective or to achieve this goal by fulfilling this God assigned mission for mankind.

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Reply #216 - January 02, 2025, 12:31 AM

Surah 2 Al-Baqarah = The Disunity, Discord, Split, Divide, Dissension, Separation, Division or Disharmony etc.

The sublime and glorious Quran is sent by Allah for mankind to guide them so that thereby they could give up their disunity be it based upon their open or secret rivalries and animosities between themselves in order to become and remain a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom in actual fact through their own purpose based proper unity, peace, progress and prosperity for reaching heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence with help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly. Because the Quran provides human beings with awesome and most impressive solid universal moral values to base their selves upon purposefully properly therefore it is an awesome and a marvellous, wonderful and miraculous book. This is why it is not and it cannot be a human creation rather it stands out from all the rest of the books which exist in the human world currently and it will remain an outstanding book forever for that very reason. It is because the Quran is mainly about real world realities in relation to mankind which people themselves observe and experience or they can observe and experience if they need or want to therefore it is free of possibility of any doubt that it is from God and that it can truly guide mankind in actual fact about their purpose of creation by their creator and sustainer and about how they can fulfil that purpose by their thinking, planning and doing things which it wants them to do and for the purpose it wants them to do. This is why the Quran is a God sent manifesto for mankind which contains his purpose based proper program for them to carry out purposefully properly by accomplishing its goals according to his provided guidelines. This is why mankind need to think, plan and do all it suggests and they also need to avoid thinking, planning and doing anything which goes against this purpose based proper program. It is because mankind cannot get the outcome it wants them to get if they will not do what it wants them to do and instead they will do what it wants them not to do. So mankind must free themselves from open and secret disputes, rivalries, animosities, fights and wars between themselves by mending and repairing their fractured and broken relationships with each other so that they could unite and become peaceful to make progress and be prosperous as a purpose based proper human community in kingdom of their creator and sustainer and so that they remain that way by maintaining their that blissful, dignified and secure state of existence.

000] So O our prophet and messenger to mankind, deliver this purpose based proper message from Allah to them for their purpose based proper guidance as a purpose based proper program for them to carry it out purposefully properly as a project and task as an assigned mission for them by accomplishing its goals according to his provided guidelines for which he has already provided for them all things for their purpose based proper biological, psychological and sociological development and growth so that they become and remain united, peaceful, progressive and prosperous as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom according to it with help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly so that they could reach heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence in here as well as in hereafter.

001] ALIF, LAAM, MEEM

002] There is no doubt in the fact that this is that book for mankind from Allah in which there is purpose based proper guidance for those who wholeheartedly and purposefully properly desire to be guided purposefully properly because they have already prepared themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly.

003] This is why they are ready to commit, dedicate and devote themselves fully, wholeheartedly and purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind for the purpose of brilliant future of humanity that is yet unseen till it becomes and remains a reality in the human world therefore they are ready to work very, very hard towards that brilliant future for humanity through establishing a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom for which they are ready to use out of all that which we have already provided for them for this purpose.

004] Those who are ready to firmly and wholeheartedly as well as purposefully properly commit themselves to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind according to what is revealed to you for your purpose based proper guidance as well as in what was revealed for those before you for their purpose based proper guidance and they had brilliant future because they too firmly and wholeheartedly as well as purposefully properly committed themselves to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom.

005] Such like are the people who are purposefully properly based upon the purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer for them therefore they are free of all kinds of problems between themselves which disunite rest of human populations through disputes, rivalries, animosities, conflicts, fights and wars between themselves whereas these people are united, peaceful, progressive and prosperous through help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom.

006] However as for those who do not prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer for them purposefully properly it is the same for them whether you deliver to them this purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer for them or not they will not commit themselves purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom.

007] Allah has given them freedom to let them isolate their own minds and senses from his purpose based proper guidance for them as per their own choice because they have decided not to use their abilities to see things as they should instead they have preferred to live under cover of darkness of ignorance about universal moral values therefore they are bound to end up and remain in terrible state of painful existence by hands of each other due to inflicting harms and destructions upon each other for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense.

008] Of course, there are also people who merely pay lip service to our calling them to our purpose based proper guidance for mankind by saying, we commit ourselves purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind according to purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind for bringing about the time period of brilliant future of mankind but the actual fact is, they have not actually committed themselves to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind.

009] By their such thoughts and actions due to their ignorance they want to deceive Allah as well as those who have truly committed themselves purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind, however the fact is they are only deceiving themselves due to their lack of awareness and knowledge about real world realities as well as their lack of awareness and knowledge about the purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind.

010] So in their minds is a self imposed fatal confusion due to their not preparing themselves purposefully properly for knowing about real world realities as well as for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind purposefully properly therefore set-up purpose based proper systems and laws as well as processes and mechanisms of Allah let them continue in increasing their confusion due to darkness of ignorance in their minds whereby they end up in a terrible painful state of existence by hands of each other for securing their own individual petty personal gains from each other at the expense of each other.

011] All this happens to them because even when they are asked, not to propagate in the human world any harmful and destructive way of life, rule of law and governing system among mankind which causes disputes, rivalries, animosities, conflicts, fights and wars between them. They say, we are only propagating a way of life, a rule of law and a governing system which are for uniting mankind for their peaceful, progressive and prosperous state of existence.

012] Be alert and aware of the actual fact that they are spreading a harmful and destructive way of life, rule of law and governing system in the human world whereby they cause disputes, rivalries, animosities, divisions, conflicts, fights and wars between mankind but they refuse to become aware of this fact to understand and acknowledge it.

013] This is the reason when they are asked to commit themselves purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind according to the purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind just like those who have already committed themselves fully and wholeheartedly as well as purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind according to purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind. They reply, should we commit ourselves to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind like those who have already committed themselves to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind just because they lack sense? The actual fact is, it is they themselves who lack sense of making purpose based proper sense of real world realities and purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer for mankind in light of each other because they did not prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer purposefully properly to reach heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as a purpose based proper human community.

014] Because they are utterly confused due to their ignorance by not preparing themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer for mankind purposefully properly therefore when some of them meet some of those who have committed themselves fully, wholeheartedly and purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind according to our purpose based proper guidance for mankind they say to them for deceiving and making fool of them, we too have committed ourselves to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind but when they are alone with their dominant and leading mischievous, corrupt and troublemaking people in their human populations they say to them, we are surely with you and we were only deceiving and fooling about with those who claim to have committed themselves purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind.

015] Due to giving them freedom of choice Allah leaves them to themselves in their self imposed ignorance and foolishness to continue fooling themselves this way as per their own choosing and lets them drown themselves in their own ignorance and arrogance based foolishness and confusion due to which they run about aimlessly in all directions all over the place instead of accepting his advised purpose based proper goal or objective and direction to aim for and move towards.

016] They are such ignorant and arrogant people who have bought into manmade confusing ways of life, rules of laws and governing systems instead of a way of life, rule of law and governing system which are advised for them by their creator and sustainer for their purpose based proper guidance. Their this way of living their lives has brought them no really worthy advantage or valuable benefit because they have not succeeded in reaching the purpose based proper goal or destination which is set for them by their creator and sustainer for them.

017] Their example is like that of a people who are in a dangerous dark place that is full of all kinds of dangers so they kindle only a small fire due to lack of or insufficient fuel to get light from it to see things around themselves to feel and stay safe and secure but when that fire lights up and sheds its light around them Allah lets their this fire go out due to lack of its fuel so they are left in the same utter darkness and danger as they were before kindling this fire.

018] All because they are wilfully deaf, dumb and blind towards the purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer for mankind due to not preparing themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper guidance of their creator and sustainer for them purposefully properly which informs them about his advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for them for ensuring their own blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom yet they ignore, avoid and neglect it instead of coming to it and taking advantage of it and benefiting from it.

019] Or example of response of such like people as try to avoid even listening to the periodic call to the message that is revealed for their purpose based proper guidance by their creator and sustainer for mankind in order to ensure their own well being is like that of a people who are periodically taken over by a sudden heavy and noisy rainstorm from the sky wherein are gaps or periods of silence or quietness therefore periods of overwhelming darkness as well as periods of loud thunder and strong lightning because of which they tightly thrust their fingers into their ears in case the noisy thunder caused by strong lightning causes them to end up destroyed. This is how the call towards purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind which can lead them to the way of life, rule of law and governing system advised by Allah for mankind for ensuring their well being surrounds all even those who try to avoid seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly.

020] The lightning in the rainstorm is so strong that it almost snatches away their sights so it cannot be ignored, avoided or neglected by their such tactics. Each time it flashes and brightens up the place all around them, they walk in it but when it is dark they stand still. Had Allah so planned he could have left them on their own in utter darkness of ignorance without his purpose based proper guidance for them for ensuring their well being so their brains and senses will have become utterly useless and ineffective for making purpose based proper sense of anything at all. However Allah planned all things purposefully properly therefore according to set needed necessary measures so that they serve his purpose of creating them as they should or as they are supposed to.

021] For that reason O mankind, serve the purpose of your creator and sustainer who has created you as well as those before you by becoming and remaining a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom by becoming and remaining united, peaceful, progressive and prosperous so that you could reach heights of excellence to attain and maintain blissful, dignified and secure state of existence in his kingdom and that way you could guard against harms and destructions which you people have been inflicting upon each other for securing your own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense by causing disputes, rivalries, animosities, conflicts, fights and wars between yourselves.

022] This is why the one who brought about the earth for you to live upon as well as its atmospheric layer to bring about purpose based proper environment for you and provided you the mankind with his purpose based proper guidance to have solid universal moral foundation to base yourselves upon so that you could thereby reach heights of excellence as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom with help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly through your thinking, planning and doing what needs to be done for this purpose for your own blissful, dignified and secure state of existence. This is why and this is how he causes the water to evaporate and form clouds in the sky to rain down as fresh water there from and thereby he brings forth all kinds of growths of living things such as vegetables, fruits, spices and livestock for your sustenance and livelihood. Therefore do not set up or accept dominant and leading people in human populations as equals of Allah in his kingdom by accepting living by their imposed ways of life, rules of laws and governing systems instead of accepting and living by way of life, rule of law and governing system which are advised by Allah for mankind for ensuring their own well being.

023] Despite all these stated facts if you are still in doubt about the message we have sent, revealed or disclosed to our prophet and messenger regarding the purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for mankind then you too can bring forth a message that can prove at least equally advantageous and beneficial for mankind in comparison to it. Moreover you can call upon all your helpers and supporters who refuse to accept and live by this message as well as oppose it which is about our advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for mankind if you people are truthful in actual fact in seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon purpose based proper message of Allah for mankind.

024] However if you people cannot produce a message like it and you surely can never ever produce a message like it because it is about purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for mankind for ensuring their own well being through help and full support of each other by their complementing each other purposefully properly then instead of rejecting, opposing and baselessly and aimlessly arguing against it guard yourselves against the fire of hatred and animosity between mankind - which take place due to some people securing their own petty personal gains from others at their expense as rivals and enemies whereby they end up in disputes, fights and wars with each other - by seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly, because victims of fire of hatred and animosity are both down trodden masses as well as stone hearted dominant and leading people who are turned by them into their idols or Gods. So if these people will not prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon our purpose based proper guidance for them purposefully properly then that is what awaits for them as well as all others who refuse to live by our advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for mankind in the human world.

025] So give glad tidings to those who will commit themselves wholeheartedly and purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom according to our purpose based proper guidance for mankind and therefore they will take all needed steps to remove disputes, fractures, rifts and conflicts from between people to bring them together to help development and growth of purpose based proper human community in order to maintain it. This is how of a surety there will come about lands or places for them based upon purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind throughout which under their own administration and management things of their need and want for them will flow like rivers to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence. Each time they will receive their sustenance there from as fruits of their own hard works they will remember and say, this is that kind of provision which we are getting now like of which we were promised earlier on due to which we made our declaration of faith for our joining this movement for formation and maintenance of purpose based proper human community. All because in those places and lands will gather people who will be free of disputes, rivalries, animosities, rifts, conflicts, fights and wars between themselves and instead they will help and fully support each other by complementing each other purposefully properly as well as they will be hard working therefore they will end up in such like places and lands in our kingdom as well as they will remain in there for so long as they will maintain those places and lands purposefully properly as a purpose based proper human community.

026] This information and its purpose based proper explanation clearly shows that Allah does not hold back from mankind any needed necessary information and explanations be it by way of examples regardless the matters are of smaller scale or larger scale for helping mankind understand them purposefully properly, therefore those who commit themselves wholeheartedly and purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind as a purpose based proper human community according to his purpose based proper guidance for mankind they come to know it for sure that this is a purpose based proper message from their creator and sustainer for them in actual fact because they prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly. However those who do not prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly they reject and oppose it by saying, what does Allah intend to accomplish and establish by putting forth this like information and these like explanations by way of various examples for mankind? This is how Allah leaves many of mankind to themselves to stay away from his advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system as well as he lets many of them come to his purpose based proper guidance for mankind to abide by it. His purpose based proper guidance for mankind does not let any people stray save those who seek to cause disputes, rivalries, animosities, rifts, conflicts, fights and wars between mankind for securing their own petty personal gains from others at their expense due to which people end up harmed and destroyed by hands of each other.

027] As for those who breach their promise, covenant, contract or accord with Allah after ratifying it through their declaration of faith for joining the movement for bringing about and maintaining a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom according to his purpose based proper guidance for mankind by causing disputes, rivalries, animosities, rifts, conflicts, fights and wars between people in the human world for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense instead of working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind as they are advised by him. This is why they are the ones who are bound to end up in a huge loss through inflicting harms and destructions upon each other.

028] Therefore if you the mankind can ponder over, reflect upon, contemplate and think about what is told and explained in this message then how can you people afford to stay ignorant about human world realities which are your very own direct life experiences and about real world realities as well as about our purpose based proper guidance for mankind and remain unproductive or prove harmful and even destructive for each other instead of proving helpful and supportive for each other through complementing each other purposefully properly by your rejecting and opposing our purpose based proper guidance for mankind by refusing to prepare yourselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting according to advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system of Allah for mankind purposefully properly which are only for ensuring your own well being particularly when it is he alone who has brought you to existence out of nothingness for that very purpose because you people were nonexistent before this existence? Moreover he leaves you people on your own to think, plan and do what you like for or against each other till you die after his giving you life but thereafter he will bring you back to life again after that death where after you will be brought back to him for your accountability for answering for what you will have done for or against each other in response to his purpose based proper guidance for you people?

029) It is for this very purpose he brought into existence and evolved for all of you all that exists in this kingdom of his creation, that is how he applied and turned his design into a reality so extensively to all that exists from this galaxy to all the farthest galaxies and all that is within them as well as all that is in between them and that is how he fashioned all these things because comprehensive knowledge about each and everything rests only and only with him alone.

030] In light of this information and explanation call to mind the state of affairs or situation in the human world at the time when your creator and sustainer through his very first prophet and messenger Aadam said to chiefs, officials, administrators or managers and their people at the time the very first time, I have decided to bring about a purpose based proper human community in the human world through Aadam for purpose based proper management of people and things. Seeing the disputes, rivalries, animosities, fights and wars that were already ongoing between people at the time for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense some of them responded to God’s plan by expressing their concern about it by saying, O God, will you let any such person or people take over people and things for control or management of people and things in the human world like the ones who are already there and who will create conflicts and cause wars and thereby shed blood just like them whereas we work hard to try to bring about a human world so that you may become glorified in actual fact due to freedom from all problems between people in the human world? He said, you people do not have the needed purpose based proper information for thinking, planning and doing so that is why you have failed to do so this far on your own but I have the needed purpose based proper information for this purpose which I am going to pass onto Aadam to pass it onto rest of you people so that you people could succeed in bringing about and maintaining a purpose based proper human community in my kingdom according to it by preparing yourselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly.

031] Therefore he taught Aadam all the needed necessary information for this purpose in form of his purpose based proper guidance for mankind to live by as his manifesto and program for them with his set goals for them to accomplish according to his provided guidelines so that thereby they could reach heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence by forming a purpose based proper constitution and legislating purpose based proper laws for organising and regulating themselves into a purpose based proper human community in the human world in his kingdom where after he brought him before the chiefs and their people to tell them about what he was taught by Allah and then he said to them through Adam, tell me if you people knew all this information already and if your concerns which you expressed earlier about my bringing about a purpose based proper human community in the human world are justified?

032] They said, flawless is your provided purpose based proper information for our purpose based proper guidance, we do not know and we cannot know things save what you have made possible for us to know all by ourselves, it is because certainly you are the only one who is all knowing and all wise ruler of this kingdom of your creation.

033] He thereafter said to Aadam, O Aadam, start informing them in all necessary detail about the purpose based proper information which we have disclosed to you for their purpose based proper guidance for their becoming and remaining a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom according to it. So Aadam informed them about it. Thereafter Allah said to them through Aadam, did I not tell you that I know all that is visible as well as invisible in all the far away galaxies as well as in this galaxy and all that is within them as well as in between them? Not only that but we also know all that which you people make obvious to each other as well as all that which you people keep hidden and secret from each other?

034] However despite our provided information when we said to all the chiefs or administrators and all the rest of people through Aadam, accept and act upon our purpose based proper guidance for mankind along with Aadam for your own blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom, they all accepted to do so but not Iblis (the one who opposes living by purpose based proper guidance of Allah for mankind) and his helpers and supporters and backers. He along with his backers refused to live by our provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind and instead he continued living by a way of life, rule of law and governing system whereby they struggled between themselves for dominating each other for undermining each other for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense.

035] For that reason we said to Aadam, stay on our pointed out course for reaching our set out goal for you and your helpers and supporters or backers for bringing about and maintaining a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom according to our purpose based proper guidance for you people for ensuring your own well being through your complementing each other purposefully properly so that you have a place and things in it which you people are free to use thereof which are fruits of your own labour according to your own choice as you need and desire things as a purpose based proper human community so do not even think about adopting any other way of life, rule of law and governing system which lead you people into rivalries and animosities therefore disputes, conflicts, fights and wars between yourselves whereby you people also become like those people who inflict harms and destructions upon each other for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense.

036] However at length the opponent of our advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system and his supporters and backers conspired against Aadam and his community and by their tricks they brought them out of our advised course of thoughts and actions which they were following, so we said to them, you have degraded yourselves as some of you have acted in rivalry and animosity against others, nonetheless, for all of you people in this world there is a place to live and livelihood for a period of time.

037] Thereafter Aadam was equipped by his creator and sustainer with more messages, so he returned to the course of thoughts and actions that was advised for him and his companions or supporters by his creator and sustainer, no doubt his creator and sustainer is ever ready to turn to his human creatures to fulfil their need for his purpose based proper guidance for them.

038] Yet we also made clear to mankind by saying to them, move away if you must at your own risk from the course of thoughts and actions we have advised for you collectively as a purpose based proper human community but remember our purpose based proper guidance for mankind for their living purposefully properly in this world will keep on coming for you the mankind through our prophets and messengers as well as their missionaries, so whichever people will live by our purpose based proper guidance for mankind they will have no fear of any disputes, rivalries, animosities and atrocities from each other therefore they will not have any worries about their brilliant future to sadden them and make them grieve or be regretful due to their working for the purpose of becoming and remaining united, peaceful, progressive and prosperous as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom according to our purpose based proper guidance for them through their helping and supporting each other by their complementing each other purposefully properly.

039] However you the mankind must become and remain fully aware about the fact that those who will refuse to live by our provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind and instead they will reject and oppose it they are bound to burn in fire of hatred and animosity against each other and in that state of existence they will abide forever due to inflicting harms and destructions upon each other for securing their own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense unless they will repent by giving up their that way of life, rule of law and governing system and reform by adopting our advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for mankind.

040] So O you people who are claiming to be supporters and backers of the one who lived by way of life, rule of law and governing system of Allah for mankind make my that way of life, rule of law and governing system a reality in the human world with which I have provided you people now again and that way fulfil your promise, accord and covenant with me so that I too fulfil my promise with you people so that you people remain safe and secure from harms and destructions by hands of each other as well as from poverty and lack of things of need and want.

041] Therefore seek, receive, study, accept and act upon what I have sent for your purpose based proper guidance now by preparing yourselves purposefully properly for doing so. The message which confirms the truthfulness of my revealed message with which I provided you people till you people held onto it purposefully properly. For that reason do not be the foremost of the people to reject and oppose it. Moreover do not trade my revealed purpose based proper message for securing your petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense instead be purposefully properly consistent with it as well as with each other for ensuring your own well being with help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly as a purpose based proper human community in my kingdom.

042] So do not clothe this truth from me with your own falsehood and do not hide and suppress the truth from me from the rest of mankind after you have become aware about its presence or existence in the human world.

043] Instead establish and maintain the network of a purpose based proper human community in the human world and give more and more strength to the network according to it by backing it up fully and purposefully properly through bending, moulding and modelling your lives along with those who bend, mould and model their lives purposefully properly according to it.

044] Are you people telling other people in the human world to bend, mould and model their lives purposefully properly according to it yet you people yourselves are ignoring, avoiding and neglecting to bend, mould and model your own lives purposefully properly according to it when it is you people yourselves who are claiming that you are fully and wholeheartedly as well as purposefully properly committed to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom according to it? Can you people therefore not use your intelligence to figure out this conflict and contradiction between your words in form of your declaration of faith in this cause, mission and movement and your practice in form of your works and deeds for making it successful?

045] So get purpose based proper support of other people in the human world purposefully properly as you should and the way you should for your this our assigned purpose based proper cause and mission for you people with steadfastness by means of forming and expanding a purpose based proper human community network. No doubt this mission involves very, very hard work but it is not impossible to carry out for those who are aware of the terribly painful consequences of not having such a strong purpose based proper human community network in their human world which ensures their well being.

046] Such people as know with reasonable surety that one day they will have to meet their creator and sustainer, because unto him is their final returning so they will have to answer to him for their response to his call towards his assigned purpose based proper mission for them according to his provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind.

047] So O you people who are claiming to be supporters and backers of the one who lived by way of life, rule of law and governing system of Allah for mankind, make my that way of life, rule of law and governing system a reality in the human world for ensuring well being of mankind with which I have provided you people now again because thereby I distinguished you people from among the rest of human populations in the human world at that time by raising you to heights of excellence when you people lived by my provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind purposefully properly.

048] So adopt that way of life, rule of law and governing system as a purpose based proper human community in my kingdom to ensure well being of mankind the while you still have the time to save yourselves by guarding yourselves against coming of such a time period when no one will work for ensuring the well being of mankind for benefiting one another at all, nor will anyone accept call of intervention for help and support by anyone because during that time period no goodness, justice and fairness will be expected from anyone by anyone and therefore poor and weak people will find no help and support from anyone and from anywhere.

049] For that kind of reminder call to mind the fact that through our advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system for mankind we saved you the poor, weak and undermined or enslaved people from the rich and the powerful people who supported and backed up the way of life, rule of law and governing system of the Pharaoh, the one who thought, planned and acted tyrannically particularly against you people and afflicted you people with terrible painful suffering. He and his supporters and backers actively discouraged and undermined your talented, courageous and capable people from among you and actively encouraged and promoted your coward, weak and incapable people from among you to hold you down through them to keep you enslaved and in that situation or set of circumstances for you people was set up a great program for you to campaign, strive, struggle and fight by your creator and sustainer to bring you out of that terribly bad situation.

050] At the time we spread through you people our purpose based proper revealed information whereby we saved you people and let you prosper because you people prepared yourselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon our provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind purposefully properly but we let supporters and backers of Pharaoh drown themselves in their own ignorance based arrogance because they did not prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon our provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind purposefully properly and you people yourselves are the witnesses to that fact.

051] At the time we exacted firm pledge of you people through Moses to change the time period of darkness for you - which was result of you people moving away from our purpose based proper guidance for mankind - with time period of brightness - by bringing you people back to our purpose based proper guidance for mankind purposefully properly through purpose based proper education, training and skills needed for this purpose if you people will hold firmly onto our revealed purpose based proper program for you people purposefully properly but then after this promise of yours at length you people again moved away from our purpose based proper guidance for mankind so you people ended up adopting a way of life, a rule of law and a governing system which were opposite of our advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system whereby you people ended up inflicting harms and destructions upon each other for securing your own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense.

052] However we overlooked your this act of falling away from our purpose based proper guidance for mankind after you repented by giving up that way of living and you reformed by adopting our advised purpose based proper way of life again therefore we let you continue so that from then on you could use our provided things purposefully properly to accomplish our assigned mission for you.

053] Because at the time we had already given Moses our book as the criterion for judging or distinguishing between the truth and the falsehood as well as the right and the wrong so that you people have the guidance that is purposefully proper.

054] At the time Moses too said to his people, O my people, you have indeed inflicted harms and destructions upon each other amongst yourselves for securing your own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense by adopting the harmful and destructive way of life therefore stop living that way and turn to the way of life you have been advised by your maker and discipline yourselves according to that because that will be greatly beneficial and advantageous for you people according to your maker. Your maker is such that he turned to you people again after your repentance and reformation and that is because he is indeed the one who turns to his human creatures for fulfilling their needs and wants for the fulfilment of his assigned mission for them.

055] Despite all this information and explanation at the time you people said to Moses, we cannot put our complete faith in your program till we are purposefully properly explained as to what it is about and how we can fulfil it. Once it was purposefully properly explained by Moses for you and you understood it purposefully properly then you people were taken over by intoxicating motivation to see it through.

056] That is how we raised you people to heights of excellence back on your feet after you became a morally dead and motiveless people so that you could start managing and using our provisions purposefully properly again for the purpose they are given to you.

057] We did all this because you people were in a terrible state of existence due to falling away from our advised purpose based proper guidance for mankind whereby you people ended up inflicting harms and destructions upon each other for securing your own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense due to which you people ended up harmed and destroyed by hands of each other. However by means of our revealed purpose based proper guidance for mankind we placed a protective covering over you people to screen you against overwhelming distressful situation and state of existence you got yourselves into by showing you people the way back to our purpose based proper guidance for mankind and that is how we inspired, triggered, moved, motivated and activated you people with courage and steadfastness, therefore make purposeful proper use of our provisions for the purpose they are granted to you so that you people could have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom through help and full support of each other by complementing each other purposefully properly. Moreover become and remain aware of the fact that we never inflict harms and destruction upon people rather people themselves inflict harms and destructions upon each other for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense instead of living according to our provided purpose based proper guidance for them as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom.

058] This is why at the time we said to these people, bring about our advised purpose based proper place in our kingdom as a purpose based proper human community to live therein according to our purpose based proper guidance for mankind to freely produce and use things there in from wherever you like for ensuring your own well being as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom. However bring about that place and enter in that place purposefully properly as you people are advised through our purpose based proper guidance for mankind. Moreover express this fact through your own hard works according to the best of your abilities as we have given them to you to show that you truly desire that your needless unnecessary burden be lightened in actual fact with which you people have burdened yourselves by straying off our advised course of thoughts, planning and actions. So if you will do what you are advised the way it is advised purposefully properly then we will secure you people that way and protect you people from the outcomes of your unintentional harmful works or mistakes, because that is how we protect and give increase to good results of purpose based proper works of those who do that for ensuring well being of each other according to our purpose based proper guidance for mankind.

059] However, along the way they traded what they were advised to think, plan and do with what was harmful and destructive so they ended up inflicting harms and destructions upon each other for securing their own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense, so we let the consequences of their very own transgressions against each other fall upon them as per our set up purpose based proper systems and laws as well as processes and mechanisms.

060] At length when Moses sought our help again to satisfy their need for purpose based proper guidance for mankind we helped him and said to him, use our purpose based proper program to carve a rock solid purpose based proper human community out of these people thereby. That is how sprung forth an exemplary purpose based proper human community because each of its people became purposefully properly aware of their place for learning our purpose based proper program for their purpose based proper guidance to live and abide by. So we said to them, keep feeding on our provided food for thought and keep drinking from the fountain of knowledge from Allah and do not transgress in the land against each other to be of the mischief makers and troublemakers.

061) However call to mind also the fact that at the time some of your cunning and crafty dominant and leading people said to Moses, O Moses, we cannot live in this place by a way of life, a rule of law and a governing system with which you have provided us which enforce harmony between all of us to work for the purpose of unity, peace progress and prosperity of all of us as a purpose based proper human community in there because that does not suit us therefore we wish that you request your creator and sustainer to bring forth a way of life, a rule of law and a governing system which allow us to live individually as we like so that we could hoard and collect things of need and want as well as of value in abundance for piling up and which allow us to withhold grain and various other things which the earth produces. Which allow us to have our own private or personal servants and workers. Also which should allow us to buy and sell goods and services as well as people as we wish. He said to them, will you rather prefer to live by a way of life, a rule of law and a governing system which are harmful and destructive for humanity instead of the ones that are greatly beneficial, advantageous and constructive for you people as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom? If that is what you people want to do then go live somewhere else like rest of low lives and you will soon get the results for doing that. This is how they became exposed and trapped in humiliating stagnation, regression and poverty because they decided to reject living by beautiful purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system which were advised for them by their creator and sustainer for ensuring their very own well being as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom. It is for that kind of way of life, rule of law and governing system they used to argue and they raised disputes as well as caused fights with our prophets and messengers as well as their missionaries without any real worthy justification for doing so. So they ended up this way because they repeatedly transgressed and went against our advised purpose based proper limits and did things their own way.

062] Regardless of what some dominant and leading people as well as their supporters and backers think, plan and do in contravention of our purpose based proper guidance for mankind every now and again those who will fully and wholeheartedly as well as purposefully properly commit, dedicate and devote themselves to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind according to our revealed purpose based proper guidance for mankind such as those who actively promote it among rest of human populations purposefully properly and those who actively support and back it up purposefully properly as well as those who actively prepare themselves purposefully properly for seeking, receiving, studying, accepting and acting upon it purposefully properly for ensuring well being of mankind or for that matter any other people who strive for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind for their best future by actively removing obstacles and barriers in the way of people to their unity, peace, progress and prosperity will have their due reward as told by their creator and sustainer. As a result of their such thoughts, plans and actions for ensuring well being of mankind they will have no worries about their future nor any regrets for their past.

063] This is why we exacted the covenant of you people and burdened you people by placing over you responsibility of living by our advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system and we said, hold onto this promise of yours to us firmly with all your strength and always keep it in forefront of your minds by faithfully and purposefully properly abiding by it in your deeds as well so that you people could attain freedom from all kinds of disputes, rivalries, animosities conflicts, fights and wars or troubles and problems from between yourselves in order to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom.

064] However, some of you people went back on your word you gave us by moving away from our advised purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system thereafter and had there not been purpose based proper guidance of Allah with you people in which he told you people about getting back on the right track whereby some of you helped some of them to do that then indeed all of you people will have ended up in a big loss for ever.

065] Some of you people are aware about those from among you who went back on their promise with us regarding our provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind so we said to them, continue as you like jumping back and forth like mischievous and troublemaking monkeys in response to our purpose based proper guidance for mankind if that is how you want to continue in your mindset, attitude and behaviour towards it instead of thinking, planning and acting like sensible human beings as you are advised and as you should.

066] We pointed them out as an example for the people of their own time as well as for the people who were to come after them as a people who lived by a way of life, rule of law and governing system which were harmful and destructive for mankind and that is how we made them a lesson to learn about for those who would like to keep themselves consistent with our provided purpose based proper guidance for mankind as well as with each other as a purpose based proper human community in our kingdom.

067] For this reason call to mind the state of affairs of those people to whom Moses was sent telling them at the time, Allah says you people should give up your divisive and discriminatory secular and religious ideologies and practices whereby you people cause disputes, fights and wars between yourselves through rivalries and animosities instead of committing yourselves purposefully properly to working for the purpose of unity, peace, progress and prosperity of mankind according to his provided purpose based proper guidance for them. They replied, are you taking us for fools? Moses replied, I only seek our blissful, dignified and secure existence as a purpose based proper human community by means of purpose based proper way of life, rule of law and governing system which are advised for us human beings by Allah instead of being of the ignorant and arrogant people who live by their own self invented and self imposed ways of life, rules of laws and governing systems and suffer the terribly painful consequences by hands of each other for securing their own petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense and therefore they end up harmed and destroyed by hands of each other.

068] They said then ask your creator and sustainer to make clearly distinct for us what is wrong with our adopted way of life, rule of law and governing system? He said, he says, it is a way of life, a rule of law and a governing system which do not burden people with purpose based proper responsibilities to think, plan and do what they actually need to think, plan and do for reaching heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as a purpose based proper human community in a place in his kingdom but instead they burden them with harmful and destructive ideas and practices which lead them to disunity, fights and wars between themselves through disputes, rivalries and animosities due to their securing their own individual petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense and that way they are forced by each other into state of stagnation, regression and poverty as a people. So you people should do what you are told if you really want to reach heights of excellence to have blissful, dignified and secure state of existence as a purpose based proper human community in his kingdom.

069] They said, in that case ask your creator and sustainer to make it more obvious for us what exactly is wrong with our adopted way of life, rule of law and governing system. He said, he says, your way of life, rule of law and governing system whereby you people live are founded upon harmful and destructive therefore immoral ideas and practices therefore they are void of ensuring your well being as a purpose based proper human community in a place in his kingdom as their outcome even though they look very attractive to those people from among you who have their individual ambitions and desires for securing their petty personal gains from each other at each other’s expense hooked upon them in form of their expectations about them.

070] They said, consult your creator and sustainer yet further for us seeking yet more clarification for us about them because by now to us usefulness of our adopted way of life, rule of law and governing system are becoming confusing therefore doubtful as the problems which result from them are becoming obvious for us so if Allah guides us a bit more regarding them then we will surely find the truly right way of life, rule of law and governing system for ourselves in actual fact.

I am a student of quran and islam and not an exmuslim.
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