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OP - September 10, 2008, 12:31 AM

The two main American parties have finally set their official tickets for the next election. It seems that Obama is the great shrinking man. McCain has finally made good on the GOP mainstream he has made a career or dissing.

Obama seems to get smaller & smaller as the months go by. The Rev. Wright thing was more deeply hurtful to his image then any Dem. is willing to face. Hardly anyone yet knows about the Ayers & Rezko associations either. Once these far more corrupt & violent radical associations are known. Only the most radical fringe in the Dem. Party will still be enthusiastic for him. Some people have always known the real man who hides under the empty platitudes, that is in fact why they have supported him. Supposed "gaffs" like that about his wife having a reason to feel proud of her country for the 1st time are a wink & a nudge amongst such people.

I suppose that McCain might in fact draw in the so-called moderate undecideds. People who are generally too ignorant & gullible so they believe the MSMS spin. The real problem has always been energizing the GOP base. This was also Bush's problem. The Bushs have always had a tendency to try & throw away the conservative base that Reagan built in the GOP. This is one of the great problems that habitually hobbles the GOP. A moderate but well funded cabal in the GOP doesn't like the Sarah Palin types in the party. They push equivocal candidates like Bush & Guiliani & Romney to the front & crowd out...well...real Republicans.

Palin has really energized the GOP base, I know I am completely jazzed. The Evangelical vote will be the deciding factor in this election. It decides elections not by choosing one party or the other but by failing to turn out for the GOP. Palin is the key that has cranked the GOP engine. If McCain doesn't run again in 4 yrs., a real possibility, she will be perfectly positioned to lead the party. Perhaps she will choose Gov. Jindal of Louisiana (hope, hope, pray), a man of Indian ancestry & Catholic convert, he will help bring in the vote of new immigrants.

I was expecting McCain to actually pick Jindal, but let him mature for a few years.

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Reply #1 - September 10, 2008, 12:50 AM

IHSoter,

Will you please read my shouts?

Remember....I have a short attention span. Do you mind keeping your replies to me more pithy? Thank you.
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Reply #2 - September 10, 2008, 12:57 AM

Three paragraph posts is about as pithy as I can get. You wouldn't want me cheat you of the full breadth of my imcomparable wisdom & counsel?

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Reply #3 - September 10, 2008, 01:32 AM

The Dems had the chance of the Century to walk in and take the Presidency for many more terms to come. They could have really invested the head-start Bush handed them over. Instead what do the dems do? They put forward a jihadi cousin of a Kenyan jihadi who is promising to bring sharia to Kenya as Kenya's is nearing civil war due to, islamization.

Stupid moronic twits, now I have to contend myself with rooting for idiots and seniles, because the dems leadership as it turned out, is too damn stupid to breathe. Even if Obama wins this one, a relatively easy feat considering the damage that Bush did, Obama's future actions will destroy the credibility of their party.

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Reply #4 - September 10, 2008, 01:41 AM

Lol! I take it I'm the only Obama fan then?
Baal, you're surely not going along with those lame conspiracy theories about Obama being a closet Islamist?
Sure, Obama has his weaknesses like any other person/politician, but I've yet to hear a criticism that wasn't either nit-picking or lame conspiracy.

I think Palin has some more serious flaws.
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Reply #5 - September 10, 2008, 01:46 AM

Baal, where do you live, I don't think you have accurate read of the situation?

The Obama fad has been whithering for months now. He really is dead politically. I heard a prominent Dem. leader just today saying how Obama is in trouble. Willy Brown, a black former speaker of the house for the California legislature, said so today.

Hillary was winning primary after primary in the end. He hadn't won a majority in months. The stupid Dems insist on doing things proportionately, so he kept adding a little to his early lead w/ each succeeding primary. Hillary was right, he was no longer electable. More importantly, if her Florida & Michigan delegates had been sat, she would have beat Obama. O only won on a technicallity. If he can't bag the majority of Dems, how can he win the country? Remember, the more radical hard core political types are the ones who vote in primaries. The extreme left wing nature of the Dem. Party's leadership & activists is killing that party as it ties their fate to lefty nutters like Obama.

Just look at what Ann Coulter is saying 'bout Palin. She was promoting the "Get Drunk & Vote McCain" Website before. Now even she is excited about the mccain-PALIN ticket.

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Reply #6 - September 10, 2008, 01:49 AM

Quote from: Strafio on September 10, 2008, 01:41 AM
Lol! I take it I'm the only Obama fan then?
Baal, you're surely not going along with those lame conspiracy theories about Obama being a closet Islamist?
Sure, Obama has his weaknesses like any other person/politician, but I've yet to hear a criticism that wasn't either nit-picking or lame conspiracy.

I think Palin has some more serious flaws.
Anyone who thinks that creationism should be taught in schools has no place in the White House.

No, you're not. I want Obama to win too.

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Reply #7 - September 10, 2008, 01:49 AM

Quote from: Strafio on September 10, 2008, 01:41 AM

Anyone who thinks that creationism should be taught in schools has no place in the White House.

Like-wise. I believe that Christians ought to give up on the public schools, altogether. They are not redeemable.
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Reply #8 - September 10, 2008, 01:50 AM

Under Islamic law, O is a Moslem.

He was raised in Madrasas,

Mainly he is a closet Marxist, like his father, so many loony leftists are turning to radical Islam has the next thing they hope will destroy the West.

O's Kenyan family is supporting Islamisation in Kenya, it is a fact.

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Reply #9 - September 10, 2008, 01:52 AM

I would love to see Obama get elected as the first black President of the United States, I know it would piss you off, but... well. actually I would love that twice as much.

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Reply #10 - September 10, 2008, 01:53 AM

Quote from: Cheetah on September 10, 2008, 01:49 AM
Quote from: Strafio on September 10, 2008, 01:41 AM
Lol! I take it I'm the only Obama fan then?
Baal, you're surely not going along with those lame conspiracy theories about Obama being a closet Islamist?
Sure, Obama has his weaknesses like any other person/politician, but I've yet to hear a criticism that wasn't either nit-picking or lame conspiracy.

I think Palin has some more serious flaws.
Anyone who thinks that creationism should be taught in schools has no place in the White House.

No, you're not. I want Obama to win too.

Well, maybe American women aren't willing to wear burqas.

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Reply #11 - September 10, 2008, 01:54 AM

Quote from: Cheetah on September 10, 2008, 01:52 AM
I would love to see Obama get elected as the first black President of the United States, I know it would piss you off, but... well. actually I would love that twice as much.

Inshalla, the servant of Allah will defeat the infidels w/ his taqqiya.

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Reply #12 - September 10, 2008, 01:58 AM

Quote from: IHSoter on September 10, 2008, 12:57 AM
Three paragraph posts is about as pithy as I can get. You wouldn't want me cheat you of the full breadth of my imcomparable wisdom & counsel?

Ofcourse not...but my brain often cheats me of the full breadth of your incomparable wisdom and counsel. :mysmilie_977:
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Reply #13 - September 10, 2008, 01:59 AM

You do see how racially patronising it is to want to see the election of a man merely because he is black?

Such patronising attitudes is what has set up Obama for the humiliating fall that is coming.

I wish that Alan Keyes had done a better job of stopping O. I almost voted for Keyes when Bush Sr. was up for his 2nd term. If Bush had not proved to be so utterly obtuse & had secured the election as he should have, I would have voted against him & for Keyes so as to send a message. I didn't because Bush was too stupid & threw it away. I had to try & save him.

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Reply #14 - September 10, 2008, 02:05 AM

Quote from: IHSoter on September 10, 2008, 01:59 AM
You do see how racially patronising it is to want to see the election of a man merely because he is black?

Such patronising attitudes is what has set up Obama for the humiliating fall that is coming.

I wish that Alan Keyes had done a better job of stopping O. I almost voted for Keyes when Bush Sr. was up for his 2nd term. If Bush had not proved to be so utterly obtuse & had secured the election as he should have, I would have voted against him & for Keyes so as to send a message. I didn't because Bush was too stupid & threw it away. I had to try & save him.

Is Alan Keyes the black Roman Catholic conservative? I think I have been impressed by him at times....if he is the one I'm thinking of.
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Reply #15 - September 10, 2008, 02:10 AM

Quote from: IHSoter on September 10, 2008, 01:59 AM
You do see how racially patronising it is to want to see the election of a man merely because he is black?

I must admit, the thought has run through my mind...and I have wished out loud for a black conservative to run for president, then almost immediately realized what I was saying.
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Reply #16 - September 10, 2008, 02:41 AM

Quote from: Shaneequa on September 10, 2008, 02:10 AM
Quote from: IHSoter on September 10, 2008, 01:59 AM
You do see how racially patronising it is to want to see the election of a man merely because he is black?

I must admit, the thought has run through my mind...and I have wished out loud for a black conservative to run for president, then almost immediately realized what I was saying.

I didn't want to vote for Keyes because he is black, I just love the way he talks & thinks. In some though, Keyes is too much of the hair shirt to be a viable candidate.

Group identity politics is a factor in politics, it can't be avoided. It is in fact what has driven the Obama phenomenon.

This is why I knew that O would be a far worse candidate for the Dems then Hillary. Many women will vote for Hillary merely because she is a woman (& not just women but a certain kind of PC male would do likewise), many will vote for O merely because he is black (again not merely blacks either). Now blacks are about 12% of the U.S. population & this number will be declining mainly because of new immigration but also because abortion (in many cities, 2/3rds of all black babies conceived are aborted) & STD induced infertility. Given this stark demographic fact, black identity politics can't carry a man into the White House. It can carry a woman into the White House. I know a woman who was Hillary supporter & straight out said she would not vote O because he is black (also because he Moslem). It is widely believed that he is in fact Moslem. Hispanics are not voting for O, they will more likely vote McCain. If even half the Latino votes that went to Hillary go to McCain (& they will), that will be the election for McCain right there.

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Reply #17 - September 10, 2008, 06:10 AM

Quote from: Strafio on September 10, 2008, 01:41 AM
Lol! I take it I'm the only Obama fan then?
Baal, you're surely not going along with those lame conspiracy theories about Obama being a closet Islamist?
Sure, Obama has his weaknesses like any other person/politician, but I've yet to hear a criticism that wasn't either nit-picking or lame conspiracy.

I think Palin has some more serious flaws.
Anyone who thinks that creationism should be taught in schools has no place in the White House.

Wtf conspiracies you babling about? his own cousin is running for sharia in kenya, it is not a secret, it is not hidden, the guy was proudly representing himself and his powerful cousin from America. His powerful cousin who visited him and instead of denouncing him, the 'American Cousin' dressed up like his Jihadi cousin and supported the family's jihadis.

"Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
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Reply #18 - September 10, 2008, 06:20 AM

Quote from: Cheetah on September 10, 2008, 01:52 AM
I would love to see Obama get elected as the first black President of the United States, I know it would piss you off, but... well. actually I would love that twice as much.

Keyes, then this Louisiana guy. Hey, once you go Black..

"Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
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Reply #19 - September 10, 2008, 11:29 PM

Quote from: Baal on September 10, 2008, 06:20 AM
Quote from: Cheetah on September 10, 2008, 01:52 AM
I would love to see Obama get elected as the first black President of the United States, I know it would piss you off, but... well. actually I would love that twice as much.

Keyes, then this Louisiana guy. Hey, once you go Black..

Jindal is actually Indian.

& a convert to Catholicism, so you know he is a good person.

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Reply #20 - September 10, 2008, 11:33 PM

Here is a big question:
What were your impressions of Obama's pick of Obiden as his Veep?

The shear stupidity of picking Obiden made me happy all day.

Did McCain bait Obama into not picking O'Hillary by talking about Romney, Lieberman, etc.; & once Obiden was announced, did he announce Palin to steal the O'Hillary voters?

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Reply #21 - September 10, 2008, 11:40 PM

Palin may be a practical choice in terms of attracting votes but she'd be a bloody disaster in the White House, particularly if McCain has more health problems and she gets to take over. Frankly the world should be hoping she gets hit by a truck.

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Reply #22 - September 11, 2008, 01:01 AM

Is anyone familiar w/ the story of Obiden's plagarism of a British Labour Party politician?

The story basically is this. This British pol named Kinnock gave a speach recounting his & his family's history. Now this is very important, it wasn't just speach on any subject, it was autobiographical. Now Obiden took this Kinnock aotubiographic speach basically presented it as though it were his own history. Insane! Now many people were disturbed by this at the time Obiden made his 1st Pres. bid.

That weird act wasn't enough to knock him off the campaign. Later he was filmed going off on a reporter who asked him about his IQ. Now remember, in that campaign, the intelligence of the the candidates became an issue. Everyone was being asked about their IQs. So a reporter asked him about his IQ. Obiden went off on this reporter in another insane tirade. 1st he said that he was sure his IQ was way higher then reporters. Then Obiden went on about his education & how he got a full academic scholarship & how he had such high grade point average & received so many honors.

Now just going off that reporter was insane enough. Obiden had no idea who this man was or what his education was. For all Obiden knew, he was talking to a Rhodes scholar. But the really strange thing was that Obiden basically lied again about his education. Most of the things he claimed for himself were untrue.

Now understand, I am not accusing him of being a mere liar. The issue was, why tell lies that anyone can easily disprove & can do him no good? It was all seemingly to be pathological really.

For Obama to Obiden w/' his strange history of fantasism about his own life, it shows Obama's lack of experience & poor judgement. Picking your Veep is the 1st important decision of a would Pres. Obama has blown it big time.

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Reply #23 - September 11, 2008, 01:19 AM

They both blew it on the VP thing. They got some and they lost some and overall they should have picked someone better but really, someone better should have picked over them.

Obama will get the grey hair. He will get a guy that can lie which in this atmosphere of neo-modernist constant revisioning, is only too easily forgiven and dismissed. Some people will catch Biden's lie, but they will more then likely catch obama's first.

McCain will gain youth and boobs and an utter lack of experience. That is the price his party has to pay for not elevating women to power earlier on in their recent history. When he turned to look for a woman VP, he did not find any good ones because his party did not train any. But now the US will pay for the Republican's Old boy's Club past Follies.

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Reply #24 - September 11, 2008, 01:21 AM

Quote from: osmanthus on September 10, 2008, 11:40 PM
Palin may be a practical choice in terms of attracting votes but she'd be a bloody disaster in the White House, particularly if McCain has more health problems and she gets to take over. Frankly the world should be hoping she gets hit by a truck.

That bitch scares me shitless. She is a 100% CERTIFIABLE LOON.

100% certifiable loon.
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Reply #25 - September 12, 2008, 12:10 AM

Quote from: Baal on September 10, 2008, 06:10 AM
Quote from: Strafio on September 10, 2008, 01:41 AM
Lol! I take it I'm the only Obama fan then?
Baal, you're surely not going along with those lame conspiracy theories about Obama being a closet Islamist?
Sure, Obama has his weaknesses like any other person/politician, but I've yet to hear a criticism that wasn't either nit-picking or lame conspiracy.

I think Palin has some more serious flaws.
Anyone who thinks that creationism should be taught in schools has no place in the White House.

Wtf conspiracies you babling about? his own cousin is running for sharia in kenya, it is not a secret, it is not hidden, the guy was proudly representing himself and his powerful cousin from America. His powerful cousin who visited him and instead of denouncing him, the 'American Cousin' dressed up like his Jihadi cousin and supported the family's jihadis.

You can support your family without agreeing with their views/politics.
I'd also like your source for this story.
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Reply #26 - September 12, 2008, 03:24 AM

Quote from: Strafio on September 12, 2008, 12:10 AM
Quote from: Baal on September 10, 2008, 06:10 AM
Quote from: Strafio on September 10, 2008, 01:41 AM
Lol! I take it I'm the only Obama fan then?
Baal, you're surely not going along with those lame conspiracy theories about Obama being a closet Islamist?
Sure, Obama has his weaknesses like any other person/politician, but I've yet to hear a criticism that wasn't either nit-picking or lame conspiracy.

I think Palin has some more serious flaws.
Anyone who thinks that creationism should be taught in schools has no place in the White House.

Wtf conspiracies you babling about? his own cousin is running for sharia in kenya, it is not a secret, it is not hidden, the guy was proudly representing himself and his powerful cousin from America. His powerful cousin who visited him and instead of denouncing him, the 'American Cousin' dressed up like his Jihadi cousin and supported the family's jihadis.

You can support your family without agreeing with their views/politics.
I'd also like your source for this story.

Excuse me? Supporting his family without agreeing on their what? He supported them as a Senator while Kenya is teetering on the brink of an islamic fired civil war. Now what kind of support will he give as a president?

"Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
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Reply #27 - September 14, 2008, 08:03 PM

I need the source before I make further comment.
Otherwise I'll continue to be misinformed.
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Reply #28 - September 15, 2008, 02:02 AM

Quote from: osmanthus on September 10, 2008, 11:40 PM
Palin may be a practical choice in terms of attracting votes but she'd be a bloody disaster in the White House, particularly if McCain has more health problems and she gets to take over. Frankly the world should be hoping she gets hit by a truck.

She needs to be home with her family. They need her, now more than ever. On BBC radio, I heard a report on the 'Moral Majority'. They are supposed to be evangelical...but their right-wing politics are coming before their faith.

They normally speak up on the importance of family, but are giving a free pass to Sarah Palin. I can't go along with that...even if I do not want Obama.

As IHSoter has said, there are Supreme Court judge seats opening up, and I do not want Obama to choose the judges...so, if I were to vote, it would be out of sheer pragmatism.

Why do you not like Palin?
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Reply #29 - September 15, 2008, 04:33 PM

Quote from: IHSoter on September 10, 2008, 01:54 AM
Quote from: Cheetah on September 10, 2008, 01:52 AM
I would love to see Obama get elected as the first black President of the United States, I know it would piss you off, but... well. actually I would love that twice as much.

Inshalla, the servant of Allah will defeat the infidels w/ his taqqiya.

Can it get any dumber than this?

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