Skip navigation
Sidebar -

Advanced search options →
↑ ↓
CEMB → Forum → News and Events → International news and issues → Attacks in Mumbai

Welcome

Welcome to CEMB forum.
Please login or register. Did you miss your activation email?

Donations

Help keep the Forum going!
Click on Kitty to donate:

Kitty is lost

Recent Posts

Do humans have needed kno...
Today at 03:29 AM
The origins of Judaism
by zeca
June 25, 2025, 03:06 PM
What music are you listen...
by zeca
June 23, 2025, 08:28 PM
Qur'anic studies today
by zeca
June 22, 2025, 03:34 PM
الحبيب من يشبه اكثر؟؟؟
by akay
June 21, 2025, 01:05 PM
Lights on the way
by akay
June 21, 2025, 07:37 AM
New Britain
June 20, 2025, 09:26 PM
Is Iran/Persia going to b...
by zeca
June 17, 2025, 10:20 PM
News From Syria
June 17, 2025, 05:58 PM
Muslim grooming gangs sti...
June 17, 2025, 10:47 AM
ماذا يحدث هذه الايام؟؟؟.
by akay
June 02, 2025, 10:25 AM
What happens in these day...
June 02, 2025, 09:27 AM

Theme Changer

 Topic: Attacks in Mumbai

 (Read 14553 times)
  • 12 3 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »
  • Attacks in Mumbai
     OP - November 27, 2008, 01:38 AM
    Quote
    The chief minister of Maharashtra state says the situation in Mumbai is still not under control after attacks by gunmen killed scores across the Indian city this morning.

    At least 78 people died and more than 200, including two Australians, were injured after terrorists armed with automatic weapons and hand grenades carried out the attacks across India's financial capital.

    Indian troops were sent into the city's luxury Taj Mahal Palace and Oberoi hotels after reports that Western hostages were being held inside this morning.

    The troops shot several terrorists and released dozens of people who were being held, but it is unclear whether some hostages are still trapped.

    Gunfire and explosions were heard at the landmark Taj hotel and thick plumes of smoke rose from the building, witnesses said. There were also explosions at the Oberoi hotel and firing at a hospital where gunmen were surrounded.


    "The terrorists are throwing grenades at us from the rooftop of the Taj and trying to stop us from moving in," said police inspector Ashok Patil.


    "The situation is still not under control and we are trying to flush out any more terrorists hiding inside the two hotels," Maharashtra's chief minister Vilasrao Deshmukh told a news conference, adding that 11 police officers had died. Three top police commanders, including anti-terrorist chief Hemant Karkare, were among the dead.

    Australia's acting Foreign Minister Simon Crean said two Australians had been injured but there were no reports of Australians being killed.

    Police said they had shot dead four gunmen and arrested nine suspects.

    A witness at the Taj said the gunmen had been looking for people with British and American passports.

    The attacks have been claimed by a group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen.


     finmad
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #1 - November 27, 2008, 01:41 AM
    Three top cops were also killed, in total about 16 cops killed.

    Quote
    The attacks have been claimed by a group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen.


    I was once proud of that region for its religious tolerance, which is also my place of birth  Cry
    I was not blessed with the ability to have blind faith. I cant beleive something just because someone says its true.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #2 - November 27, 2008, 02:26 AM
    Quote from: Anti-Jihadist on November 27, 2008, 01:41 AM
    Three top cops were also killed, in total about 16 cops killed.

    Quote
    The attacks have been claimed by a group calling itself the Deccan Mujahideen.


    I was once proud of that region for its religious tolerance, which is also my place of birth  Cry


    And is there any reason why you should stop being proud of it?  Plenty of sectarian and terrrorist attacks have been carried out in my home turf, by religious and political fundies.   We never thought that was a reason to lose pride in our religious tolerance, or anything else.  Why should you?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #3 - November 27, 2008, 09:01 AM
    My birthplace  Cry
    All the affected areas are the one which I have been so many times.
    Sad, our anti-terrorism Squad officer is killed.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #4 - November 27, 2008, 10:47 AM
    Live feed from Indian TV
    http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/video/video_live.aspx?id=0
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #5 - November 27, 2008, 11:20 AM
    Awful!  My bf is from Mumbai.  I hope none of his friends or family were hurt.  Damn fundies!
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #6 - November 27, 2008, 11:48 AM
    None of the early reports mentioned the religious affiliation of the terrorist. They also didn't need to.

    I always wonder how the PC people seem to reconcile this with their belief that 'there's nothing wrong with Islam' and if it is: it's all
    Bush'/Israel's/the Vatican's fault etc.

    Everytime "science" (which is falsely called so), "discovers" something new, evolutionists have to go back and change some parts of one of their theories. Amazingly enough, no scientific discovery has ever caused Biblical creationists to have to change their stand.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #7 - November 27, 2008, 11:53 AM
    While I will never lable 1.2 billion ppl, and I myself know wonderful Muslims, what hurts me is, there are few muslims who will come out and say 'This act was done by Muslims and the act was wrong, not in accordance with Islam'. What you get to hear is:

    - We don't trust kuffar media, kuffar media is biased.
    - It is done by Israelis (in west), Hindu extremists (in India).
    - Some even say, they are still our brothers in Islam and we don't know if they have really done it. So, better not say anything.
    - And few glorify the act and raise their status to martyrs.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #8 - November 27, 2008, 12:52 PM
    Notice in the OP that there's not a word about motive or suspect groups apart from a vague 'claim of responsibility' in the very last sentence. Islam isn't mentioned once.

    I read the report of the attacks in The Scotsman earlier.

    In paragraph TEN, they say that some attacks in India this year have been carried out by Islamic terrorist groups. Well, there's a hint.

    Then you have to get down to paragraph THIRTY FOUR before there's another mention of Islamic violence in the country, and even further down until someone talks about religious motivation for massacres. Not a single politician or figure of authority will stick his neck out to even guess at the culprits.

    Why?

    Neil

    http://www.scotsman.com/latestnews/Mumbai-massacre-as-terrorists-strike.4736154.jp
    We are not here to fight religion. We are here to make religion irrelevant. NM
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #9 - November 27, 2008, 12:56 PM
    Why?  It's the PC brigade at it again, that and most of the numpties in the British media are too scared of 'offending' the Muslims by admitting in their publications that it was an Islamic terrorist group.
    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #10 - November 27, 2008, 01:24 PM
    Quote from: Phedippedes on November 27, 2008, 11:48 AM
    None of the early reports mentioned the religious affiliation of the terrorist. They also didn't need to.

    I always wonder how the PC people seem to reconcile this with their belief that 'there's nothing wrong with Islam' and if it is: it's all
    Bush'/Israel's/the Vatican's fault etc.


    I listened to the BBC earlier. They had a couple commentators,  a Mr. Chaudary and a Mr Kareem (a British MEP currently in India) both Muslims. And of course nothing mentioned about Islamic Terrorism.

    Then later I heard also on the BBC that terroism is prevalent in India from both Muslim and Hindu fundamentalist groups. By including Hindu in there it obviously takes away from the fact that the source of most of these acts find their basis in Islam, implyin that it is something inherent in all ideologies.

    I'm not sure what the statistics is regarding Hindu terrorism in India, I've never heard about it, but maybe someone can provide details.

    When will the world wake up and understand the fundamental teachings of Islam and Muhammad I do not know?
    Knowing Islam is the only true religion we do not allow propagation of any other religion. How can we allow building of churches and temples when their religion is wrong? Thus we will not allow such wrong things in our countries. - Zakir Naik
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #11 - November 27, 2008, 01:32 PM
    Hindu terrorism do exist in India. Most of the time it is in the form of Mob rather than organized crime. During Godhara retaliation nearly 900 muslims were killed by Hindu mobs in retaliation of a train burning. Before few months, Christians converts had a very hard time due to Hindu extremists who retaliated against murder of one Hindu leader. There had been one organized bomb blast in Muslim majority area by Hindu extremists.

    However, Its scope is still negligible as compared to Islamic terrorism in India. And it is PC to compare those. In last few months, following incidence took place in India due to Islamic terrorism :
    May - Jaipur serial blasts
    July - Banglore blast
    July - Ahmedabad blast
    August - Delhi blast
    November- Mumbai incidence.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #12 - November 27, 2008, 01:57 PM
    Apparantly they were simply going up and asking outright who was British or American so that they could kill them.  I have a friend who works in the department that has to arrange for the return of many of these people, including the dead bodies and she was telling me about some of the stuff they have had to sort out since this all kicked off.

    Whatever it is that they hope to achieve isn't going to be achieved.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #13 - November 27, 2008, 02:00 PM
    They want some mujahiddin to be freed. I hope our PC governmet don't relase them. Otherwise, these kind of attacks eill become quite common. Gather hostages and ask for dangerous ppl to be freed.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #14 - November 27, 2008, 02:03 PM
    Quote from: learn2bcalm on November 27, 2008, 02:00 PM
    They want some mujahiddin to be freed. I hope our PC governmet don't relase them. Otherwise, these kind of attacks eill become quite common. Gather hostages and ask for dangerous ppl to be freed.


    Ah right, I hadn't heard their demands yet, ooo, tricky one, do you think the government will cave?
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #15 - November 27, 2008, 02:05 PM
    Quote from: learn2bcalm on November 27, 2008, 11:53 AM
    - We don't trust kuffar media, kuffar media is biased.
    - It is done by Israelis (in west), Hindu extremists (in India).
    - Some even say, they are still our brothers in Islam and we don't know if they have really done it. So, better not say anything.
    - And few glorify the act and raise their status to martyrs.


    I really hate it when people say "Oh you can't trust the media - it's all lies to make Muslims look bad blah blah..."

    The truth is just too uncomfortable and it's consequences too unbearable - for many Muslims - so they prefer sticking their fingers in their ears while chanting "lalalalala... can't hear you... lalalala"

  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #16 - November 27, 2008, 02:11 PM
    Hassan,
    I have realized this is general human tendency. At the time of Hindu extremism against catholics, Hindus said 'Media is biased'.
    And unfortunately internet boards are full of either these kind of ppl or haters, let them be on any side of the story. I feel these board is sane.

    Quote from: Hassan on November 27, 2008, 02:05 PM
    Quote from: learn2bcalm on November 27, 2008, 11:53 AM
    - We don't trust kuffar media, kuffar media is biased.
    - It is done by Israelis (in west), Hindu extremists (in India).
    - Some even say, they are still our brothers in Islam and we don't know if they have really done it. So, better not say anything.
    - And few glorify the act and raise their status to martyrs.


    I really hate it when people say "Oh you can't trust the media - it's all lies to make Muslims look bad blah blah..."

    The truth is just too uncomfortable and it's consequences too unbearable - for many Muslims - so they prefer sticking their fingers in their ears while chanting "lalalalala... can't hear you... lalalala"



  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #17 - November 27, 2008, 03:33 PM
    The second account I read of the massacre today was that in The New York Times, spread from page one to page two. Islam wasn't mentioned once IN FORY TWO PARAGRAPHS.

    Had there been a hint that the terrorists were Mormons, crazed Catholics, hard-nosed Jewish blockheads, Scientologists or Amish, you can betcher socks that speculation as to their religious identity would have been right up there in the intro paragraph. Is wilfully sidestepping speculation poltically correct or politically naive and downright insulting to our intelligence?

    On another board I visit daily -- for died-in-the-wool atheists -- there are sections for comment on issues involving Chritianity, Judaism, Islam and 'other sects and cults'. I posted my reaction to this latest slaughter in 'other sects and cults' as a form of protest against hypocritical pussy footing around issues touching on the Muslim faith even on a board where our avowed intent is to criticise ALL religion and point out its exesses.

    Sad, eh, when atheists are criticised by other atheists for speaking out against religiously motivated outrage?

    Neil

    LATER: The BBC just posted 44 paragraphs at 16.30 UK Time ... again managing to avoid completely any speculation as to the religious identity (if any) of the terrorists. Of course, should there be no hint of religious identity (if they were thieves, invading military or a massive street gang out for kicks) this would have been reported, so we can only assume a group claiming some kind of religious affiliation. This silence in itself is sinister tacit comment on the fear of international media to offend. N
    We are not here to fight religion. We are here to make religion irrelevant. NM
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #18 - November 27, 2008, 05:23 PM
    Quote from: neilmarr on November 27, 2008, 03:33 PM
    This silence in itself is sinister tacit comment on the fear of international media to offend. N


    Maybe it's not sinister or fear but sensible caution - waiting for the facts rather than speculating so they don't mistakenly stoke up anti-Muslim feelings.


  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #19 - November 27, 2008, 05:28 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on November 27, 2008, 05:23 PM
    Quote from: neilmarr on November 27, 2008, 03:33 PM
    This silence in itself is sinister tacit comment on the fear of international media to offend. N


    Maybe it's not sinister or fear but sensible caution - waiting for the facts rather than speculating so they don't mistakenly stoke up anti-Muslim feelings.





    The group is called deccan mujahideen, they are demanding the release of other mujahideen, how many more facts are needed to state that it is in fact a muslim group?  Huh?
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #20 - November 27, 2008, 05:31 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on November 27, 2008, 05:28 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on November 27, 2008, 05:23 PM
    Quote from: neilmarr on November 27, 2008, 03:33 PM
    This silence in itself is sinister tacit comment on the fear of international media to offend. N


    Maybe it's not sinister or fear but sensible caution - waiting for the facts rather than speculating so they don't mistakenly stoke up anti-Muslim feelings.



    The group is called deccan mujahideen, they are demanding the release of other mujahideen, how many more facts are needed to state that it is in fact a muslim group?  Huh?


    I guess so, though it is not uncommon for groups to claim responsibility for things they didn't do. Sometimes it's prudent to let the dust settle a bit.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #21 - November 27, 2008, 05:38 PM
    Well, The operation to save hostages and defeat terrorist is still going on. The last thing we want is internal riots between Hindus and Muslims, saying 'Islamic terrorism' etc. can spark that up amd make the situation worse. Sometimes, it is wise to be PC.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #22 - November 27, 2008, 05:47 PM
    Quote from: learn2bcalm on November 27, 2008, 05:38 PM
    The last thing we want is internal riots between Hindus and Muslims


    Exactly - and right now emotions are understandably high.


  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #23 - November 27, 2008, 07:11 PM
    I think it's common sense to wait until the event is over and the security forces find out who was really responsible.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #24 - November 27, 2008, 07:17 PM
    btw - not that I'm saying there is much doubt that Muslim extremists are responsible - but simply that it is a sensitive time and the last thing we want is more innocent deaths, so it is sensible to wait until the dust settles and the facts are clearer.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #25 - November 27, 2008, 07:29 PM
    I don't give a shit does anyone really give a shit about political topics, what about India attacking a Thai ship and then calming it was a "pirate" mother ship? who gives a shit about these clowns, with 100000000 of their gods, as I honestly don't.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #26 - November 27, 2008, 07:40 PM
    Quote from: King Tut on November 27, 2008, 07:29 PM
    I don't give a shit does anyone really give a shit about political topics, what about India attacking a Thai ship and then calming it was a "pirate" mother ship? who gives a shit about these clowns, with 100000000 of their gods, as I honestly don't.


    Sometimes you say sane and quite good things.

    Other times you say totally insane and disgusting things.

    I think you are slightly schizophrenic.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #27 - November 27, 2008, 07:41 PM
    That's what he says his doctor thinks too.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #28 - November 27, 2008, 07:52 PM
    That's what I reckon. And the flack the forum gets about sexism is down to Tut's off the wall ranting too.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Attacks in Mumbai
     Reply #29 - November 27, 2008, 08:41 PM
    Quote from: King Tut on November 27, 2008, 07:29 PM
    I don't give a shit does anyone really give a shit about political topics, what about India attacking a Thai ship and then calming it was a "pirate" mother ship? who gives a shit about these clowns, with 100000000 of their gods, as I honestly don't.

    Don't you even feel bad for the 11 muslims that got/will get killed over this?
    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • 12 3 Next page « Previous thread | Next thread »