Sam Harris. Right or wrong?

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Re: Sam Harris. Right or wrong?
Reply #90 - January 05, 2009, 04:44 PM

Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 04:24 PM
Quote from: a.ghazali on January 05, 2009, 04:21 PM
Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 04:04 PM

I said THE Inquisition did not exist - there were several, in fact - many.

Well that can easily be misread as if to say there were no inquisitions. As your original post did not qualify.

So my previous post is based on that understanding.

yah, well - if you don?t get beyond a certain level of literacy... or bother to read further (since any doubts were cleared up in my next post, long before you replied).

Apologies that I'm not at your level of literacy.

However your excuse of a post to to imply that the inquisitions by the church were not as horrendous as made out to be in history fails miserably.

Your link to the later reformed inquisition does not negate the former Papal inquitisions known as the Medieval Inquisitions.

The later reformed inquisitions took control away from the church, who were the ones persecuting heretics, and gave it to the Monarch.

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Reply #91 - January 05, 2009, 04:54 PM

Quote from: Blas on January 05, 2009, 04:03 PM
Quote from: sparky on January 05, 2009, 01:56 PM

In which case your discussion is with someone else.

My initial statement which was regarding Christian teaching regarding the value of all human life and you claimed this to be untrue. Given that you have failed to provide any evidence that Christian teaching is not that all human life is valuable you have not demonstrated your claim.

The fact that you attempted to support your claim with a quote from the bible shows that your backtracking now is just that.

Christianity is as Christianity teaches - whether you think so or not.

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sparky

Get real.
There are interminable ways to sound impressive to yourself, and even a few that may impress others.
Do you think you have managed either?

Cheers.

So nothing else to say then. I have no desire to impress you or anyone else.
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Reply #92 - January 05, 2009, 04:58 PM

Quote from: a.ghazali on January 05, 2009, 04:44 PM
Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 04:24 PM
Quote from: a.ghazali on January 05, 2009, 04:21 PM
Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 04:04 PM

I said THE Inquisition did not exist - there were several, in fact - many.

Well that can easily be misread as if to say there were no inquisitions. As your original post did not qualify.

So my previous post is based on that understanding.

yah, well - if you don?t get beyond a certain level of literacy... or bother to read further (since any doubts were cleared up in my next post, long before you replied).

Apologies that I'm not at your level of literacy.

However your excuse of a post to to imply that the inquisitions by the church were not as horrendous as made out to be in history fails miserably.

Your link to the later reformed inquisition does not negate the former Papal inquitisions known as the Medieval Inquisitions.

The later reformed inquisitions took control away from the church, who were the ones persecuting heretics, and gave it to the Monarch.

apologies if your unsubstantiated hot air is a lot less than impressive... or convincing. No apologies for them failing miserably.
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Reply #93 - January 05, 2009, 08:27 PM

Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 04:24 PM
Quote from: a.ghazali on January 05, 2009, 04:21 PM
Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 04:04 PM

I said THE Inquisition did not exist - there were several, in fact - many.

Well that can easily be misread as if to say there were no inquisitions. As your original post did not qualify.

So my previous post is based on that understanding.

yah, well - if you don?t get beyond a certain level of literacy... or bother to read further (since any doubts were cleared up in my next post, long before you replied).

Dio, that was an unnecessarily snarky response. TBH I'm inclined to give you a smite for this latest in the series, and don't accuse me of bias because we have been telling off others who are not of the faithy headed persuasion.

You have a habit of quickly resorting to such whenever someone comments on your religion. Please attempt to refrain. Your post could easily have been misinterpreted. Bear in mind that a lot of people here do not have English as a first language and may occasionally miss an allusion despite their general fluency.Thank you.

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Reply #94 - January 05, 2009, 08:33 PM

Os, his inability to read just one post further before making up things about what I said has nothing to do with any first or second language. I don?t think my "snarkiness" was out of proportion in the context of him (AND Blas) WILLFULLY misconstructing what I said. It does get frustrating, and quite independently of any connection to "my religion".
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Reply #95 - January 06, 2009, 09:36 AM

Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 08:33 PM
Os, his inability to read just one post further before making up things about what I said has nothing to do with any first or second language. I don?t think my "snarkiness" was out of proportion in the context of him (AND Blas) WILLFULLY misconstructing what I said. It does get frustrating, and quite independently of any connection to "my religion".

When I click 'quote' to Blas' post, you had not yet responded with your clarification. So I had not seen that at the time.

After my post then I saw that you had qualified what you said earlier, and I posted again to acknowledge that.

I did not willfully misconstruct what you had said. It was unintentional.

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Reply #96 - January 06, 2009, 09:38 AM

Quote from: a.ghazali on January 06, 2009, 09:36 AM
Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 08:33 PM
Os, his inability to read just one post further before making up things about what I said has nothing to do with any first or second language. I don?t think my "snarkiness" was out of proportion in the context of him (AND Blas) WILLFULLY misconstructing what I said. It does get frustrating, and quite independently of any connection to "my religion".

When I click 'quote' to Blas' post, you had not yet responded with your clarification. So I had not seen that at the time.

After my post then I saw that you had qualified what you said earlier, and I posted again to acknowledge that.

I did not willfully misconstruct what you had said. It was unintentional.

my clarification post was posted a full 11 minutes before your accusation... time enough to read it, no?
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Reply #97 - January 06, 2009, 09:47 AM

People often reply to things in the order that they are posted. Give it up.

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Reply #98 - January 06, 2009, 09:48 AM

Quote from: osmanthus on January 06, 2009, 09:47 AM
People often reply to things in the order that they are posted. Give it up.

sure, but I do think reading ONE post further is not too much to ask for, is it?

edit: but okay - I do give up. the posts speak for themselves, anyway.
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Re: Sam Harris. Right or wrong?
Reply #99 - January 06, 2009, 10:25 AM

Quote from: diotima on January 06, 2009, 09:38 AM
Quote from: a.ghazali on January 06, 2009, 09:36 AM
Quote from: diotima on January 05, 2009, 08:33 PM
Os, his inability to read just one post further before making up things about what I said has nothing to do with any first or second language. I don?t think my "snarkiness" was out of proportion in the context of him (AND Blas) WILLFULLY misconstructing what I said. It does get frustrating, and quite independently of any connection to "my religion".

When I click 'quote' to Blas' post, you had not yet responded with your clarification. So I had not seen that at the time.

After my post then I saw that you had qualified what you said earlier, and I posted again to acknowledge that.

I did not willfully misconstruct what you had said. It was unintentional.

my clarification post was posted a full 11 minutes before your accusation... time enough to read it, no?

That's because I'm at the office. Many times I reply to a post get caught up with work activity, or answer the phone, write a bit, then a bit more and then submit.

Admittedly the message came up that said since the post commenced other posts were made (or something to that effect), but I di not worry to check what had been posted in the mean time. That is why as soon as I saw your post I acknowledge it and responded accordingly.

Knowing Islam is the only true religion we do not allow propagation of any other religion. How can we allow building of churches and temples when their religion is wrong? Thus we will not allow such wrong things in our countries. - Zakir Naik
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