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OP - January 02, 2009, 03:44 PM

Have we looked at this or something similar before?

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article5400567.ece
This guy seems to be using marriage as a one night stand.

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Reply #1 - January 02, 2009, 03:55 PM

Yeah, there was another thread about it.

You might also want to read about the easily abused muta [in Shia'ism] and the reprehensible misyar form of 'marriages' [among Sunnis].

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Reply #2 - January 02, 2009, 04:00 PM

Thanks, I will.

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Reply #3 - January 02, 2009, 04:02 PM

My father has two Wives.

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Reply #4 - January 02, 2009, 04:08 PM

Quote from: animation_guy on January 02, 2009, 04:02 PM
My father has two Wives.

Does he have children with both wives?

How did it impact you?

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Reply #5 - January 02, 2009, 04:15 PM

The other women is in another country. Kids, yes.

It's just one more reason to hate him, one of many.

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Reply #6 - January 02, 2009, 04:41 PM

Im sorry about that animation_guy
What you said earlier about marriage to muslim men makes more sense now

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Reply #7 - January 02, 2009, 04:52 PM

Quote from: animation_guy on January 02, 2009, 04:15 PM
The other women is in another country. Kids, yes.

It's just one more reason to hate him, one of many.

Interesting. My father cheated on my mother for 10 years with a woman he later married. Even though he isn't Muslim, I might know how you feel. If all parties got along it might be different but I can't imagine how that would work. Doesn't mean it can't work I guess but it's food for thought: is the mindset of a polgyamous man the same as the mindset of any man who cheats on his wife?

I always found that hadith about Muhammad fucking all his wives on the same day in poor taste. I feel especially sorry for the 11th mother of the believers if it's true. But how did Anas now he was fucking? Did he hear sounds? Did he watch like Abu Huraira used to skulk around when the Prophet (salallahu alaihi wa sallam) went for a slash?

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Reply #8 - January 02, 2009, 05:45 PM

I'm really sorry animation_guy, Islam really hurt you as a child in the way Christianity hurt me as a child. Religion really is a bunch of crap eh? I like your avatar, that boy looks sad.

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Reply #9 - January 02, 2009, 05:57 PM

Quote from: abdalwali on January 02, 2009, 05:45 PM
I'm really sorry animation_guy, Islam really hurt you as a child in the way Christianity hurt me as a child. Religion really is a bunch of crap eh? I like your avatar, that boy looks sad.

what does your father cheating on your mother have to do with christianity?
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Reply #10 - January 02, 2009, 05:59 PM

Quote from: diotima on January 02, 2009, 05:57 PM
Quote from: abdalwali on January 02, 2009, 05:45 PM
I'm really sorry animation_guy, Islam really hurt you as a child in the way Christianity hurt me as a child. Religion really is a bunch of crap eh? I like your avatar, that boy looks sad.

what does your father cheating on your mother have to do with christianity?

Did I say it had something to do with Christianity? That's a whole separate issue that I'm not willing to go into detail.

Edit: I just re-read my post. Sorry, I put "in the way". I didn't mean "in exactly the same way". What I meant to say was that Christianity hurt me as a child and Islam hurt animation_guy as a child. Religion can hurt children. Previously I didn't consider that.

What should I teach my daughter then? Any ideas?

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Reply #11 - January 02, 2009, 06:24 PM

Divorcing and re-marrying is one thing.

Having simultaneous wives is something else altogether. It's a bit low in my opinion.

I get the feeling that a polygamous man would probably love himself more than any of his wives.

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Reply #12 - January 02, 2009, 06:26 PM

Quote from: speaklow on January 02, 2009, 06:24 PM
Divorcing and re-marrying is one thing.

Having simultaneous wives is something else altogether. It's a bit low in my opinion.

I get the feeling that a polygamous man would probably love himself more than any of his wives.

Having an out-of-control ego is one of the worst things that can happen to someone as it tends to have devastating effects on those around them.

Yeah. I don't understand how he could look a woman in the face and say "goodbye" so he can go off to his other wife/wives. Oh yeah, that's right - Allah says it's OK. So it must be OK! Islam is perfect after all...

Funnily enough Islam does accept that polygyny is unjust.

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4:3 And if you fear that you cannot do justice to orphans, marry such women as seem good to you, two, or three, or four; but if you fear that you will not do justice, then (marry) only one or that which your right hands possess. This is more proper that you may not do injustice.

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Reply #13 - January 02, 2009, 06:27 PM

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I like your avatar, that boy looks sad.

His name is Apu. The character Apu in the Simpsons is named after him because the creator was a fan of the films in the Apu trilogy. Satyajit Ray is the greatest of all the Bengali directors.

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Reply #14 - January 02, 2009, 06:36 PM

Funny I remember my dad video taping the Apu Trilogy when I was a kid. I'll try and download it now.

I've only seen one Bengali film Mr. & Mrs. Iyer

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Reply #15 - January 02, 2009, 07:02 PM

Quote from: speaklow on January 02, 2009, 06:24 PM
Having an out-of-control ego is one of the worst things that can happen to someone as it tends to have devastating effects on those around them.

That's some profound shit. I'll have to bear that in mind. Thank you.

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Reply #16 - January 02, 2009, 07:25 PM

Quote from: abdalwali on January 02, 2009, 04:52 PM
Quote from: animation_guy on January 02, 2009, 04:15 PM
The other women is in another country. Kids, yes.

It's just one more reason to hate him, one of many.

Interesting. My father cheated on my mother for 10 years with a woman he later married. Even though he isn't Muslim, I might know how you feel. If all parties got along it might be different but I can't imagine how that would work. Doesn't mean it can't work I guess but it's food for thought: is the mindset of a polgyamous man the same as the mindset of any man who cheats on his wife?

I always found that hadith about Muhammad fucking all his wives on the same day in poor taste. I feel especially sorry for the 11th mother of the believers if it's true.

I feel sorry for the 10 mothers of the believers after the First. They all had to contend with softy seconds and that is true.

"Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
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