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  • Question: Would you kill your own child if you knew it would save the lives of 10,000 people?
  • Definitely not. - 10 (62.5%)
  • Definitely. - 1 (6.3%)
  • Depends who the 10,000 are. - 5 (31.3%)
  • Total Voters: 16

 Topic: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.

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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #30 - January 13, 2009, 11:41 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 13, 2009, 11:30 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 12, 2009, 10:01 PM
    Definitley not, even if it was a random child.  If you kill one child, that would turn you into a murderer.  Whereas not saving (as the question is phrased) 10000 lives, would not.

    You are still condemning 10,000 to death so that does make you responsible.

    Yes, it still makes me indirectly responsible, but not a murderer. 
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #31 - January 13, 2009, 11:44 AM
    In practical terms what is the difference?
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #32 - January 13, 2009, 11:58 AM
    Choosing to save lives, and choosing to end someone's life, are very different.

    Everytime I go to bed at night, I would remember that vision of my little boy screaming with my hands around his throat, whilst staring at me in disbelief.  The other scenario would leave that thought on somebody else's conscience instead.
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #33 - January 13, 2009, 11:59 AM
    Let's flip Jack's question for all you loving parents: would you kill 10,000 people to save one of your children?
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #34 - January 13, 2009, 12:00 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 13, 2009, 11:58 AM
    Choosing to save lives, and choosing to end someone's life, are very different.

    Everytime I go to bed at night, I would remember that vision of my little boy screaming with my hands around his throat, whilst staring at me in disbelief.  The other scenario would leave that thought on somebody else's conscience instead.

    There was no stipulation about the method of killing. Screaming and hands around throats could be dispensed with.
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #35 - January 13, 2009, 12:15 PM
    I was referring to practically what this could entail.  Whatever the method of killing though, similar  thoughts would go through my head.
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #36 - January 13, 2009, 12:24 PM
    So what about my flip question then? How do you answer that?
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #37 - January 13, 2009, 12:29 PM
    I would say no, for the same reasons and more.  That would then turn me into a mass murderer, as well as a selfish one!
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #38 - January 13, 2009, 12:44 PM
    Well you have a problem then. You're fine with the 10,000 people getting killed as long as someone else does it for you. You're also selfish because you put your emotions for one child above the welfare of 10,000 people. So either way you're still a selfish mass murderer, aren't you?
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #39 - January 13, 2009, 01:01 PM
    Yes, you could call me a selfish murderer in each context, but we have to chose one.  We were supposed to chose which mask was the least uncomfortable to wear, along with reasons why we felt that was true.
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #40 - January 13, 2009, 01:15 PM
    So the assumption seems to be that you would have to watch your child die but wouldn't have to watch the 10,000 die. What if it was the other way around? Your child just quietly disappears for a humane death or you have to watch 10,000 people get slaughtered one after the other. What then?
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #41 - January 13, 2009, 01:23 PM
    So what was your answer then Os?  Tongue
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #42 - January 13, 2009, 01:25 PM
    My answer is I don't have children so I don't give a fuck. Grin
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #43 - January 13, 2009, 01:29 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 13, 2009, 01:25 PM
    My answer is I don't have children so I don't give a fuck. Grin


    You do understand "hypothetically" right?  Wink
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #44 - January 13, 2009, 01:30 PM
    However if you ask me would I choose to sacrifice one child to save 10,000 then the answer is an obvious yes.
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #45 - January 13, 2009, 01:32 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 13, 2009, 01:30 PM
    However if you ask me would I choose to sacrifice one child to save 10,000 then the answer is an obvious yes.


    If YOU had a kid of your OWN though, come on, I know you can do hypotheticals.  whistling2
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #46 - January 13, 2009, 01:36 PM
    That was not the question.  Even if you were doing the murdering?
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #47 - January 13, 2009, 01:44 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on January 13, 2009, 01:32 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 13, 2009, 01:30 PM
    However if you ask me would I choose to sacrifice one child to save 10,000 then the answer is an obvious yes.


    If YOU had a kid of your OWN though, come on, I know you can do hypotheticals.  whistling2

    Well if you believe the "abortion is murder" crowd I've already murdered one of my kids, and it didn't even save 10,000 others. Make of that what you will. parrot
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #48 - January 13, 2009, 01:56 PM
    I dont see abortion as murder but that is a whole different subject. 
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #49 - January 13, 2009, 02:15 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 13, 2009, 01:44 PM

    Well if you believe the "abortion is murder" crowd I've already murdered one of my kids, and it didn't even save 10,000 others. Make of that what you will. parrot


    X + Y = yes  Tongue

    I voted it would depend on who the 10,000 were.
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #50 - January 13, 2009, 02:17 PM
    Well yeah that would come into it as well. I mean I'm sure there are 10,000 assholes the world would be better off without so......................
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #51 - January 13, 2009, 04:43 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on January 12, 2009, 10:01 PM
    Definitley not, even if it was a random child.  If you kill one child, that would turn you into a murderer.  Whereas not saving (as the question is phrased) 10000 lives, would not.



    Try explaining that to the parents of a child of the 10,000!
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #52 - January 13, 2009, 04:44 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on January 13, 2009, 02:15 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 13, 2009, 01:44 PM

    Well if you believe the "abortion is murder" crowd I've already murdered one of my kids, and it didn't even save 10,000 others. Make of that what you will. parrot


    X + Y = yes  Tongue

    I voted it would depend on who the 10,000 were.


    Yeah, that would colour the decision a lot.
    Ha Ha.
  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #53 - January 14, 2009, 12:45 AM
    Ok, next question: if Jack was one of the 10,000................................evil
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #54 - January 14, 2009, 05:38 PM
    Wont have kids so yeah Id kill them to save 10,000. Id kill them to save 2`
  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #55 - January 14, 2009, 05:52 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 14, 2009, 12:45 AM
    Ok, next question: if Jack was one of the 10,000................................evil


    Oooh that's a tough one.  Cheesy
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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #56 - January 14, 2009, 05:54 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on January 14, 2009, 12:45 AM
    Ok, next question: if Jack was one of the 10,000................................evil


    You have to save Jack, that's just not on.

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  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #57 - January 14, 2009, 05:57 PM
    Are Jack and Hassan real brothers?  (off topic)

    If you save 10,000 ppl by killing Jack, what do you do  parrot
  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #58 - January 14, 2009, 06:01 PM
    Quote from: learn2bcalm on January 14, 2009, 05:57 PM
    Are Jack and Hassan real brothers?  (off topic)

    If you save 10,000 ppl by killing Jack, what do you do  parrot


    Kill the 10,000 myself. No-one dares challenge Jack's right to life.
  • Re: Your child, to save 10, 000 people.
     Reply #59 - January 14, 2009, 08:56 PM
    Well, First off, I don't think you can answer this until you've been a parent.
    I certainly wouldn't kill one of mine, whatever the circumstances or consequences. I'd give my own life first.
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