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Ex-Muslims do not exist...
OP - January 14, 2009, 09:48 PM

We're just muslims who don't have yaqeen, and are not mu'mineen.

He's just saying...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_19XwhT4LKE&fmt=18

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Reply #1 - January 14, 2009, 09:55 PM

Quote from: Pazuzu on January 14, 2009, 09:48 PM
We're just muslims who don't have yaqeen, and are not mu'mineen.

He's just saying...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_19XwhT4LKE&fmt=18

I can't get any sound on that video. I'm not sure that's a bad thing either.

This guy is a tit, and if he's convinced that there's no such thing as an ex-muslim then how does he explain away the laws against apostasy from Islam? Why would Allah make laws against a crime that is impossible to commit?

I think he's protesting a bit too much.

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Reply #2 - January 14, 2009, 09:56 PM

Quote from: Pazuzu on January 14, 2009, 09:48 PM
We're just muslims who don't have yaqeen, and are not mu'mineen.

He's just saying...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_19XwhT4LKE&fmt=18

That's the pratt who made a video about me.

Hey why didn't you come to the meet-up Pazuzu, I was really hopin u'd come. I know its a long way for you so I don't blame you - but I would really love to have met you at last.

Hey we should make a video next time we all meet up and introduce ourselves to IJS with the words:

"Hi IJS, I'm an Ex-Muslim... I'm just sayin'"
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Reply #3 - January 14, 2009, 10:30 PM

Hahaha, I think that sounds like a wicked idea, and I'm up for that. Yeah, I would've loved to have come down but couldn't make it. Sounds like all y'all had fun though.

I know he made that video about you, hence why I posted this after I watched it. As for Cheetah pointing out about the apostasy laws: that's the first thing that came to my mind as well!

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Reply #4 - January 14, 2009, 10:51 PM

He says that a real Muslim is also a Mu'min - a believer - one who is certain of the truth of Islam - so there is no such thing as an ex-Muslim... WTF??

So basically anyone who once believed and was certain - or thought they were certain - if they no-longer believe then they were never really certain in the first place.

That's such a pile of crap!

So there is no ex-anything then.

And yes - then there should be no punishment for apostasy though I can hear him saying: 'The punishment is because you is messin about comin' in an' outta Islam like it waz sum kinda play ting... I'm just sayin'

So you need to be beheaded according to God's Mercy.
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Reply #5 - January 14, 2009, 10:58 PM

Quote from: Hassan on January 14, 2009, 10:51 PM
He says that a real Muslim is also a Mu'min - a believer - one who is certain of the truth of Islam - so there is no such thing as an ex-Muslim... WTF??

So basically anyone who once believed and was certain - or thought they were certain - if they no-longer believe then they were never really certain in the first place.

That's such a pile of crap!

So there is no ex-anything then.

And yes - then there should be no punishment for apostasy though I can hear him saying: 'The punishment is because you is messin about comin' in an' outta Islam like it waz sum kinda play ting... I'm just sayin'

So you need to be beheaded according to God's Mercy.

I understand your frustration Hassan, a lot of muslims say that exmuslims were "never" muslims. Keep in mind its just denial. And his quote "IM JUS SAYIN" is really starting to tick me off lol!

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Reply #6 - January 14, 2009, 10:59 PM

There is no spoon.

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Reply #7 - January 14, 2009, 11:00 PM

Dawahworks is certainly NOT an ex-Idiot, that is for sure.
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Reply #8 - January 15, 2009, 12:14 AM

Quote from: Hassan on January 14, 2009, 09:56 PM
That's the pratt who made a video about me.

He is a complete idiot, Hassan. Don't even pay attention to him.

Quote from: Hassan on January 14, 2009, 09:56 PM
Hey we should make a video next time we all meet up and introduce ourselves to IJS with the words:

"Hi IJS, I'm an Ex-Muslim... I'm just sayin'"

Good idea. DO IT.

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Reply #9 - January 15, 2009, 12:24 AM

Quote from: Cheetah on January 14, 2009, 09:55 PM
Quote from: Pazuzu on January 14, 2009, 09:48 PM
We're just muslims who don't have yaqeen, and are not mu'mineen.

He's just saying...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_19XwhT4LKE&fmt=18

I can't get any sound on that video. I'm not sure that's a bad thing either.

This guy is a tit, and if he's convinced that there's no such thing as an ex-muslim then how does he explain away the laws against apostasy from Islam? Why would Allah make laws against a crime that is impossible to commit?

I think he's protesting a bit too much.

What she said. Really IJS or dawaworks or whatever he's being called this week is a twat. And he is just sayin'. That's all he does. He never backs up the "just sayin" with anything worth listening to.

I think the "evil counter-video is a wonderful idea.

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Reply #10 - January 15, 2009, 02:47 AM

You know, I don't exactly remember bumping my head and then rejecting the shahada; as this guy insists that's what has happened. Does anyone else?

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Reply #11 - January 15, 2009, 03:08 AM

Isn't that the same dude who interviewed a Muslim girl about the hijab?
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Reply #12 - January 15, 2009, 03:32 AM

Yep. Same dude. Just sayin'.

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Reply #13 - January 15, 2009, 03:42 AM

Quote from: osmanthus on January 15, 2009, 03:32 AM
Yep. Same dude. Just sayin'.

hahaha.

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Reply #14 - January 15, 2009, 04:31 AM

Quote from: Hassan on January 14, 2009, 09:56 PM
Hey we should make a video next time we all meet up and introduce ourselves to IJS with the words:

"Hi IJS, I'm an Ex-Muslim... I'm just sayin'"

I'm very tempted to make my first youtube video, and "come out" as an ex-muslim with this.

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Reply #15 - January 15, 2009, 09:26 AM

Does anybody feel like smacking him? lol because I certainly do, I'm just saying, sowwwy.

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Reply #16 - January 15, 2009, 09:31 AM

Yes Berbs I agree and I couldn't help but reply to his video with this.

"This guy is a self righteous fool who is burdened with a backward desert dogma so egregious that it defies description. This fool believes in genies and bullies women for not wearing hijab. It's not possible to be more vacuous and arrogant than this fool.

I hope you get a fat punch in the teeth from the next ex muslim you accuse of not existing.

Your a joke geez"

Childish of me I know but he is one really arrogant douchbag.
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Reply #17 - January 15, 2009, 09:35 AM

Lol a well earned insult.

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Reply #18 - January 15, 2009, 10:15 AM

OMG I just did a search for Dawahworks on Google and this clown is based in TEXAS! That explains a LOT to me...

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Reply #19 - January 15, 2009, 11:06 AM

Go Brucepig.

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Reply #20 - January 15, 2009, 12:46 PM

Quote from: awais on January 15, 2009, 04:31 AM
Quote from: Hassan on January 14, 2009, 09:56 PM
Hey we should make a video next time we all meet up and introduce ourselves to IJS with the words:

"Hi IJS, I'm an Ex-Muslim... I'm just sayin'"

I'm very tempted to make my first youtube video, and "come out" as an ex-muslim with this.

If you do, you will need thick skin as I have discovered as he and others will say some very nasty things to you.
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Reply #21 - January 15, 2009, 12:51 PM

Quote from: Hassan on January 15, 2009, 12:46 PM
If you do, you will need thick skin as I have discovered as he and others will say some very nasty things to you.

It's something we all need to get used to though, it's the only way we can make a change.

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Reply #22 - January 15, 2009, 01:11 PM

Quote from: PeruvianSkies on January 15, 2009, 12:51 PM
Quote from: Hassan on January 15, 2009, 12:46 PM
If you do, you will need thick skin as I have discovered as he and others will say some very nasty things to you.

It's something we all need to get used to though, it's the only way we can make a change.

True!

Well who's up for this joint video - no, not that kind of joint, Berbs

You can send me your clips and I can put it together.

If you are worried u can wear a "V" mask or something lol
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Reply #23 - January 15, 2009, 01:14 PM

I like moomins.

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Reply #24 - January 15, 2009, 01:16 PM

Quote from: Hassan on January 15, 2009, 01:11 PM
Quote from: PeruvianSkies on January 15, 2009, 12:51 PM
Quote from: Hassan on January 15, 2009, 12:46 PM
If you do, you will need thick skin as I have discovered as he and others will say some very nasty things to you.

It's something we all need to get used to though, it's the only way we can make a change.

True!

Well who's up for this joint video - no, not that kind of joint, Berbs

You can send me your clips and I can put it together.

If you are worried u can wear a "V" mask or something lol

LOL

At first I thought you were referring to a different kind of joint video, then I realised what sort of joint you were referring to. Man I have such a dirty mind.

Err and much as I would love to say "I'm an ex msulim, I'm just saying" lol you know me and pictures don't like each other.

Using a mask would be counter productive.

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Reply #25 - January 15, 2009, 01:30 PM

Well I'm gonna reply to this guy.

At least I can do a revised "My Story" for him. (previous one had pictures of ppl who complained and I got a lot of stick for it.)
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Reply #26 - January 15, 2009, 09:25 PM

OK I posted my "My Story" in reply to this twat. I removed it coz I was getting a lot of personal attacks from people I know and it was causing problems and I was worried my ex would take my kids away - but fuck it, I have a right to say my story.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eojlLtapIDc
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Reply #27 - January 15, 2009, 09:30 PM

Surely your ex would have no legal basis for taking the kids, would she? There is supposed to be freedom of religion in the UK.

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Reply #28 - January 15, 2009, 09:34 PM

Quote from: osmanthus on January 15, 2009, 09:30 PM
Surely your ex would have no legal basis for taking the kids, would she? There is supposed to be freedom of religion in the UK.

I don't want a battle. She is talking about taking them back when they get to secondary school age. I am ignoring it coz she knows I am better with the kids than she is (she has no patience), but she has had stick from a friend about my videos and so been prodded into taking the kids back from her Murtad ex to save their deen. I think she is thinking it's ok while they are little but will demand them back when they get a bit bigger. I'm not good at battles. I don't want trouble - just my kids.
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Reply #29 - January 15, 2009, 09:34 PM

Quote from: osmanthus on January 15, 2009, 09:30 PM
Surely your ex would have no legal basis for taking the kids, would she? There is supposed to be freedom of religion in the UK.

No she wouldn't, taking a child from it's full time carer would take far better reasons than she could provide.

Having given up full time care as the maternal figure, she has already made herself the non resident parent and the court would not change that, only if abuse was involved, which it isn't.

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