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 Topic: Do Good People Go To Hell? Abdurraheem Green

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  • Re: Do Good People Go To Hell? Abdurraheem Green
     Reply #30 - February 07, 2009, 05:59 AM

    The analogies he uses, such as paying a man to do a job, but he works for someone else deserves to be sacked - can only make sense if those who reject God actually believe in him but decide to reject him anyway.

    Otherwise the analogy is paying a man to do a job which he is totally unaware of and is in fact totally unaware he even has an employer!

    If that was the case then it is the employer who is at fault. He has failed to make his position crystal clear and undeniably obvious.

    Perhaps God should be sent to Hell forever, crying in agony and pain.

    Though if it came to such a ridiculous scenario, none of us would do such a thing - even to a monster of a God as the one described in Islam and Christianity.

    That's because we are human and for all our failings - most of us have evolved far above and beyond the God that was constructed by our ancestors over 2000 years ago (and perpetuated ever since.)


    tis indeed very flawed.

    In a business you hire people who apply for the job. Humans never asked to exist. It was "God"s decision to create them. Now they have no choice but to follow him or pay. How is that just? How is that a choice?

    The business anology is also flawed because, in real life, there are many places/people you can work for. But in Islam, there is none other than God, or so they teach. In a business, you pay someone, and find out that they are working for another business/person. But since there is none other than "Allah", who are you following? Since there is no other existence than this, what "other business" could you be working for? NOthing.

    SO that means, when youre working, youre only really affecting the world that exists, which is Allah's world. And if youre doing a good job, what does it matter that you thought you were working for another business/God? You did all that was required, so now you will be punished just because you didnt aim for the right person? The only thing that proves is that God is vain, and selfish. Not merciful and just at all...




    Quod est inferius est sicut quod est superius,
    et quod est superius est sicut quod est inferius,
    ad perpetranda miracula rei unius.
  • Re: Do Good People Go To Hell? Abdurraheem Green
     Reply #31 - February 07, 2009, 11:40 AM

    In a business you hire people who apply for the job. Humans never asked to exist. It was "God"s decision to create them. Now they have no choice but to follow him or pay. How is that just? How is that a choice?

    The business anology is also flawed because, in real life, there are many places/people you can work for. But in Islam, there is none other than God, or so they teach. In a business, you pay someone, and find out that they are working for another business/person. But since there is none other than "Allah", who are you following? Since there is no other existence than this, what "other business" could you be working for? NOthing.

    SO that means, when youre working, youre only really affecting the world that exists, which is Allah's world. And if youre doing a good job, what does it matter that you thought you were working for another business/God? You did all that was required, so now you will be punished just because you didnt aim for the right person? The only thing that proves is that God is vain, and selfish. Not merciful and just at all...


    Well put!
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