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  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #210 - March 27, 2012, 10:33 AM

    Akahoshi: on your website, you claim that "if you check the information of a Pulsar you will see that it makes sounds exactly like the sounds of a knocking "
    This is not true. Pulsars emit electromagnetic radiation (radio waves). Electromagnetic radiation makes no sound at all. Even if it did produce sound waves instead, there is no air in space to transmit them. Pulsars dont 'knock'.

    The sound you are referring to is emitted from speakers connected to a computer, connected to a modulator, connected to a radio telescope. You could just as easily represent the radio wave with light,  and you could just as easily represent anything else with sound.

    It is also lie to claim as you did on your website that "NASA approved this fact [that the moon split in two] "
    Yes NASA have taken photos of the moon, and yes the moon is covered in hundreds of canyon type features called rilles (so is Mars by the way).  No, NASA have not said that the moon was split in two.

    i wouldnt mind your ignorance, but you have described those who dont accept this nonsense as stubborn, and so I feel that you deserve to have your ass handed to you.
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #211 - March 27, 2012, 11:56 AM

    The Koran does not mention pulsars. The word " Tariq " in surah 86:1-3 refers to the planet Venus
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/27224058/No-Pulsars-Mentioned-in-the-Koran

    Good point Pertinax., If those verses say bright Star., it could be that Venus., And if it is piercing bright star, it could be stupid meteor burning in sky ..lol..  who knows allah knows the best..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyW0g1SIyxI

    Hmm...    other name of Venus is Aphrodite .. an angry CEMB Aphrodite

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #212 - May 30, 2012, 05:09 PM

    Masha ' Allah! A new miracle!

     http://xeniagreekmuslimah.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/the-existence-of-multiple-universes/

    So once again I'm left with the classic Irish man's dilemma, do I eat the potato or do I let it ferment so I can drink it later?
    My political philosophy below
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwGat4i8pJI&feature=g-vrec
    Just kidding, here are some true heros
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBTgvK6LQqA
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #213 - May 31, 2012, 09:26 PM

    LOL yea "worlds" plural now all of a sudden means Allah was talking about multiple universes. Yet no mention of this event until Scientists have theorized this idea.  Roll Eyes
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #214 - June 25, 2012, 07:10 PM

    Miracles In Quran..............

    “…and We made her (Mary) and her son (Jesus) a sign for the worlds.”....................... (Quran 21:91)[/i]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8DgTnPq2S4


    “And We gave unto Jesus, son of Mary, clear miracles”................. (Quran 2:87)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVugsBipaMA

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #215 - July 06, 2012, 02:03 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsEadn0Z8sg
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #216 - July 06, 2012, 03:09 PM

    I've heard this lecture before and read the book as well. The book is good to begin with but gets a bit silly towards the end.
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #217 - July 06, 2012, 06:05 PM

     Afro well said bro you knocked the nail on the head with one blow for me. i agree all the way. thnkyu
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #218 - August 04, 2012, 07:43 AM

    Look , even f we agree on your first view of that Earth didn't exist in the big bang , there is still the forming of Earth when it was mere dust and Sky was mere gas , so as I said , Ardh ( Ground ) split from Samaa ( Atmosphere ) , they were mere dust and gas , meteors hit them , they split and formed Earth and its atmosphere , ok ? and by the way , I checked Google translation , even the English word (Earth) means also ground

    meteors hit what? what're you talking about

    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #219 - August 04, 2012, 10:06 AM

    One of the best e-book written to debunk scientific miracle claim . It take care of almost all miracles.. book is written by ex-muslims FFI editor

    http://azdahaexmuslim.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=163

    Disbelief doesn't justify getting tortured in eternal hell
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #220 - August 04, 2012, 11:56 AM

    yeezevee : Sorry , but a prayer in Islam is very important ,.............

    But who is stopping you praying Akahoshi ?  you should pray ., my problem in Islam,  with Islam is NOT praying but PREYING

    Quote
    Akahoshi says again


    هدئ أعصابك قبل أن ينفجر شريان لك . أسلوب الشتم و استخدام الكلام البذيء الفاحش الذي لا يقوله إلا أوضع الخلق لن ينفعك . و لا أسلوب ادعاء التطور و العلم و كل هذا . أنا قد بينت لك سفاهات زملائك في ذلك المستنقع . و قد قلت أننا لن نطأ أقدامنا في مراحيض قوم سفهاء فاحشين يسبون الدين . فإن أردت أنت و من معك أن تناظروا و تظهروا الحق ( و ليس أن تستعرضوا العضلات العلمية و تطلقوا العنان لألسنتكم البذيئة ) فعليكم بمنتدى التوحيد حيث لدينا قوانين فعلاً و ليس قانون ( لن نمنع أحداً من الحديث بسفاهة لأنها حرية تعبير )

     
    common don't insult people reading your blogs..  and  Grow up., don't stagnate yourself .. be proud of what you are., and let people call you "you’re a fu**** retard" Akahoshi ., You are one of the nicest guy I ever responded on Intranet

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

     


     

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #221 - October 01, 2012, 03:56 AM

    In the name of allah - most kind and most merciful

    WOW! wow wowowow. first and foremost before you spew nonsense about anything from any religion you need to understand something: where it came from, how it was written, then you test and validate its claims.

    The quran is written in arabic for a reason. Arabic is a very linguistic language, one word can have 30 meanings but can only mean what its describing based on its context.  for example the word - messiah in arabic has many meanings and that word linked by the word in front of it and after it will describe which word to use in context so that the reader can say oh yeah messiah means this not this.

    Another problem is that you are not i repeat you are not posting the right information. the quranic verse which states the big bang says this:

    "And the heaven We built with Our own powers (aydin) and indeed We go on expanding it." (51:48)
     
    "Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass (ratqan), then We clove them asunder (fataqna)? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (21:31)


    The notation that the universe is expanding in 650 A.D.? or that the heavens and earth were once connected as one?

    or that everything is made of atoms? or that pain generates from pain receptors not from the brain like we used to think. or that when we lie we use the frontal lobe of our brain....

    "Have you seen the one who forbids.A servant when he prays?Have you seen if he is upon guidance.Or enjoins righteousness?Have you seen if he denies and turns away -Does he not know that Allah sees?No! If he does not desist, We will surely drag him by the forelock -A lying, sinning forelock." (96: 9-16)

    before anyone opens their mouths and judges me, I went to a muslim grammer school for 5 years and graduated from a catholic high school. Ive studied and learned many aspects of all religions.

    REMEMBER THIS THE QURAN HAS 3 BOOKS IN IT: THE TORAH( OLD TESTAMENT) - THE INGEL (NEW TESTAMENT) - AND THE QURAN ITSELF. BEFORE YOU JUDGE SOMETHING AND MAKE A MOCKERY OUT OF SOMETHING MAKE SURE YOU ARE PRESENTING THE FACTS. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION. THEY SAY OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, THEY ALL STINK! :p MUCH LOVE TO EVERYONE HERE AND REMEMBER THIS ONE LAST THING!!!-----

    IN THE QURAN GOD SAYS HE DOES NOT FORCE RELIGION ON YOU BUT-----THE TRUTH STANDS OUT CLEAR.

    "Let there be no compulsion in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error:  whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks.  And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.  (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"

    PEACE AND MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL.


  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #222 - October 01, 2012, 04:09 AM

    DAMN!! I remember this is the first CEMB thread I ever looked at. It was a few days after I became an atheist.  


    In my opinion a life without curiosity is not a life worth living
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #223 - October 01, 2012, 04:49 AM

    In the name of allah - most kind and most merciful

    WOW! wow wowowow. first and foremost before you spew nonsense about anything from any religion you need to understand something: where it came from, how it was written, then you test and validate its claims.

    The quran is written in arabic for a reason. Arabic is a very linguistic language, one word can have 30 meanings but can only mean what its describing based on its context.  for example the word - messiah in arabic has many meanings and that word linked by the word in front of it and after it will describe which word to use in context so that the reader can say oh yeah messiah means this not this.

    Another problem is that you are not i repeat you are not posting the right information. the quranic verse which states the big bang says this:

    "And the heaven We built with Our own powers (aydin) and indeed We go on expanding it." (51:48)
     
    "Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass (ratqan), then We clove them asunder (fataqna)? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (21:31)


    The notation that the universe is expanding in 650 A.D.? or that the heavens and earth were once connected as one?

    or that everything is made of atoms? or that pain generates from pain receptors not from the brain like we used to think. or that when we lie we use the frontal lobe of our brain....

    "Have you seen the one who forbids.A servant when he prays?Have you seen if he is upon guidance.Or enjoins righteousness?Have you seen if he denies and turns away -Does he not know that Allah sees?No! If he does not desist, We will surely drag him by the forelock -A lying, sinning forelock." (96: 9-16)

    before anyone opens their mouths and judges me, I went to a muslim grammer school for 5 years and graduated from a catholic high school. Ive studied and learned many aspects of all religions.

    REMEMBER THIS THE QURAN HAS 3 BOOKS IN IT: THE TORAH( OLD TESTAMENT) - THE INGEL (NEW TESTAMENT) - AND THE QURAN ITSELF. BEFORE YOU JUDGE SOMETHING AND MAKE A MOCKERY OUT OF SOMETHING MAKE SURE YOU ARE PRESENTING THE FACTS. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION. THEY SAY OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES, THEY ALL STINK! :p MUCH LOVE TO EVERYONE HERE AND REMEMBER THIS ONE LAST THING!!!-----

    IN THE QURAN GOD SAYS HE DOES NOT FORCE RELIGION ON YOU BUT-----THE TRUTH STANDS OUT CLEAR.

    "Let there be no compulsion in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error:  whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks.  And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.  (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"

    PEACE AND MUCH LOVE TO YOU ALL.




      Whatcha talkin bout ??  but  how are you doing soundwave12., well some sounds are good,  they do sooth the heart  but we must learn to use logic along with proper sound that makes sense.

    So let us make some sound that makes sense......  i am glad you went to  high school...  So did you read Quran in Arabic ??Do you speak Arabic?

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #224 - October 01, 2012, 07:19 AM

    first and foremost before you spew nonsense about anything from any religion you need to understand something: where it came from, how it was written, then you test and validate its claims.  


    Yup and the same goes for you as well.

    The quran is written in arabic for a reason. Arabic is a very linguistic language, one word can have 30 meanings but can only mean what its describing based on its context.  


    Lol lol lol, what the hell? a very Linguistic Language?  Cheesy

    Talking about Linguistic Languages, English is the same, the word Follow & do have 30 meanings as well.

    for example the word - messiah in arabic has many meanings and that word linked by the word in front of it and after it will describe which word to use in context so that the reader can say oh yeah messiah means this not this.  


    Calm ur tits down dude, we ain't doing any translations, we use translations from people like Yusuf Ali, Pickthal, we use Lane's Lexicon and Lisan Ul Arab and I think these people knew very well what they were talking about since they are the most eminent Translators, I highly doubt the fact that u r more qualified then the ones I mentioned.

    "And the heaven We built with Our own powers (aydin) and indeed We go on expanding it." (51:48)  


    This is not what Surah 51 and Ayat 48 say.

    This is Surah 51:48 more precisely:

    And the earth – We spread it out, and how well have We smoothed it!

    What u r talking about is 51:47 mister I know Arabic so well.

    (51:47) And heaven – We made it with Our Own Power and We have the Power to do so.

    51:47   With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace.



    The Verse says nothing about Expanding the space, it rather says they are their expanders but the rest of the translations have translated it as VAST EXTENT or simple BIG.

    "Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were a closed-up mass (ratqan), then We clove them asunder (fataqna)? And We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" (21:31)


    The notation that the universe is expanding in 650 A.D.? or that the heavens and earth were once connected as one?  


    The notion that the universe was expanding in 650 AD didn't exist, there is nothing in the Quran that alludes to ir, also the Heavens and the Earth are still connected as one, for more refutations on 21:31 check this link:

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=21597.msg624709#msg624709

    Oh also, is that u Akahoshi Huh?? again?

    or that everything is made of atoms?  


    Not everything is made of Atoms, we don't still know what everything is made of, are u trying to say that the Atoms are made of Atoms??? of course not, so no everything is not made of Atoms.

    before anyone opens their mouths and judges me, I went to a muslim grammer school for 5 years and graduated from a catholic high school. Ive studied and learned many aspects of all religions.  


    And u still didn't know if it was 51:47 talking about building the heavens in Vast Extent or 51:48, such a pity.

    If u went to an Arabic Grammar school u would know that moosiu'oona is a noun not a Verb the way u said or as presented in ur translation from Asad, check Pickthal, Yusuf Ali and the rest for more Info.

    REMEMBER THIS THE QURAN HAS 3 BOOKS IN IT: THE TORAH( OLD TESTAMENT) - THE INGEL (NEW TESTAMENT) - AND THE QURAN ITSELF.  


    Not really, Muhammad just copied and plagiarized the Torah and the Bible.

    BEFORE YOU JUDGE SOMETHING AND MAKE A MOCKERY OUT OF SOMETHING MAKE SURE YOU ARE PRESENTING THE FACTS.  


    Why don't u take ur own advice for a second ?  Smiley

    IN THE QURAN GOD SAYS HE DOES NOT FORCE RELIGION ON YOU BUT-----THE TRUTH STANDS OUT CLEAR.  


    Yes yes, the Quran says I don't force u to believe me, if u don't it is all cool man, take it easy just be good LOL of course not the Quran says If u don't believe Allah u will burn in hell for eternity and that is what forcing religion on u means, by definition.

    "Let there be no compulsion in religion:  Truth stands out clear from error:  whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy handhold, that never breaks.  And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.  (The Noble Quran, 2:256)"  


    I see u have mastered the craft of Cherry Picking, what about the rest 99% of the Quran which says if u don't believe in Allah u will burn for eternity?

    p.s: here is a topic dealing with the Expanding thing, Harakaat was an Arabic Speaker a native one I think:

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=16572.0

  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #225 - October 01, 2012, 08:40 AM

    hey sturmgewehr, i like reading you debate people man.

    Yeah an I am super ugly, I can't even beat my chest am too skinny and when I roaaar to attract women, they laugh at me, because it sounds like a girl screaming. I can't even attract any bitches!  Cry

  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #226 - October 01, 2012, 09:40 AM

    "A very linguistic language". I'll have to write that down somewhere.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #227 - October 01, 2012, 12:06 PM

    Arabic is a very linguistic language

    I can almost hear him saying it.

  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #228 - October 01, 2012, 12:18 PM

    Geology is a very scientific science.

    He's no friend to the friendless
    And he's the mother of grief
    There's only sorrow for tomorrow
    Surely life is too brief
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #229 - October 01, 2012, 12:45 PM

    Arabic is a very linguistic language


    WTF!!!!!!!  Huh?



    The quran is written in arabic for a reason. Arabic is a very linguistic language, one word can have 30 meanings but can only mean what its describing based on its context.  for example the word - messiah in arabic has many meanings and that word linked by the word in front of it and after it will describe which word to use in context so that the reader can say oh yeah messiah means this not this.



    WTF!! Seriously!! All languages have contexts determining what words to use!!
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #230 - October 01, 2012, 02:02 PM

    Quote
    In the name of allah - most kind and most merciful

    WOW! wow wowowow. ...

    The quran is written in arabic for a reason. Arabic is a very linguistic language, one word can have 30 meanings but can only mean what its describing based on its context. .................



    WTF!!!!!!!  Huh?


     WOW! wow wowowow.....Huh! what?  "WTF"??   ?  ما نكح

    What does that supposed mean Yume??  finmad     I am really upset don't do that again  finmad

      soundwave12, let us let us teach a lesson to Yume and other guys here ., So   write 30 meanings on  that Arabic "WTF" along with their contexts..

    These guys here need to learn lot soundwave12.. I am glad you joined CEMB to teach them   right way.. right path..Huh! she terrifies  all that allah world that puts their heads under Arabian sand..

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #231 - October 01, 2012, 03:07 PM

    hey sturmgewehr, i like reading you debate people man.


    Thanks bro Smiley

    "A very linguistic language". I'll have to write that down somewhere.


    LOL, yeah, what the hell, does that even make any sense Huh?

  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #232 - October 01, 2012, 05:05 PM

    WOW! wow wowowow.....Huh! what?  "WTF"??   ?  ما نكح

    What does that supposed mean Yume??  finmad     I am really upset don't do that again  finmad

      soundwave12, let us let us teach a lesson to Yume and other guys here ., So   write 30 meanings on  that Arabic "WTF" along with their contexts..

    These guys here need to learn lot soundwave12.. I am glad you joined CEMB to teach them   right way.. right path..Huh! she terrifies  all that allah world that puts their heads under Arabian sand..

     

     ما نكح  Cheesy
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #233 - October 01, 2012, 05:10 PM

    Hmm, perhaps someone could consider modifying this wikipedia article on scientific miracles:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_and_miracles

    There is an even longer version of it on the Arabic wikipedia.

    http://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A5%D8%B9%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%B2_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A_%D9%81%D9%8A_%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A2%D9%86

    It might be worthwhile to explain how the Saudis deliberatedly manipulated scientists comments on the Quran to produce programs about so-called scientific miracles, and also to provide links to theRationalizers' videos. Maybe the best place to put it is in the actual introduction of the article itself, i.e. to sort of set the context through which these scientific miracles claims first came about.

    Be sure to source everything, as long as everything is cited it cannot be edited out.
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #234 - October 01, 2012, 06:03 PM

    such mindless generic bullshit rhetoric from soundwave.
    I'm glad that sturmgewehr responded because otherwise I would have felt compelled to, and I really can't be bothered.
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #235 - October 01, 2012, 06:30 PM

    There is something terribly wrong here with everyone ., you are not understanding what  soundwave12 is saying .,    soundwave12 is so  smart,  he leaves some nuggets in the middle  of his post., It is for the readers to pick out those nuggets.. They are as good as words of Allah.. god.. dude.. whatever ..   Huh!??  is Allah "He"??  He??  Huh?  Anyways here is the nugget from soundwave12

    In the name of allah - most kind and most merciful

    ... ASSHOLES, THEY ALL STINK!


    There.,  yap... "ASSHOLES, THEY ALL STINK!"


    They are indeed words with full of wisdom, the fact., those words reveal  such a universal fact  I wonder whether Allah revealed that verse to  soundwave12 ..  
    you guys in this forum  you  act too smart,  huh! then tell tell me  finmad finmad   I mean tell me " one "ASSHOLE" on this earth that doesn't stink.?  that is indeed a universal fact..


    common soundwave12 don't get disappointed by these people. it is our(you and me) duty to read Quran to innocent folks here.,

    Quote
    Ta Seen Meem.[Al Quran ; 28:1]

    Ta Seen, [Al Quran ; 27:1]

    Ta Seen Meem [Al Quran ; 26:1]

    Ta Ha. [Al Quran ; 20:1]

    Kaf Ha Ya Ein Sad. [Al Quran ; 19:1]

    Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 15:1]

    Alif Lam Ra. [Al Quran ; 14:1]

    Alif, Lam, Mim, Ra. [Al Quran ; 13:1]

    Alif Lam Ra.[Al Quran ; 12:1]

    Alif Lam Ra.[Al Quran ; 11:1]

    Alif Lam Ra.[Al Quran ; 10:1]

    Alif Lam Meem Sad.[Al Quran ; 7:1]

    Alif Lam Meem.[Al Quran ; 3:1]

    Alif Lam Meem.[Al Quran ; 2:1]


    Quote
    Ta Seen Meem
        Kaf Ha Ya Ein Sad.
        Alif Lam Ra ..
        .Doom ....Dam... DoooomM

        ..KhaboomM....
        Meem... dum..dum
        ..Ta Ha....
     Alif Lam Mim
     Faa' Qaaf.


    Indeed those are the signs of  Book of wisdom..  Nonsense at its best.... ASSHOLES.....    Well Now I feel better after reading Quran..


    Errr. let us not get upset with infidels, that will help none and helps nothing.  What is there in ASSHOLES??  after all they too are the products of Allah.,
     there must be a good reason  for Allah to make them.. ,  Yes .. y  soundwave12 yes.,    let us make some sound that makes sense   Not    Just Noise ..STUPID NOISE


    That is Rania al-Baz., Saudi Arabian television host., Before and after her husband's Love....love....looooooovvvvveeee..

    And this is from  Quarn from a wonderful guy who never liked me.. lol..    No I am just kidding..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #236 - October 01, 2012, 07:19 PM

    =)  Tongue thnkyu far away hug

    Before anyone can give their 2 cents on any topic they discuss the person needs to be educated. I have or wish no ill will upon any of you, in fact most of you sound intelligent and funny enough that if the circumstances were different we could have been friends hanging out talking about, religion politics and girls haha like i do with my friends.

    In the end if we all understood the bigger picture of the religion itself and not just take excerpts from here and there I almost guarantee you that the discussion would be different. In fact I never once said that Islam was the best or that it was correct or that if you do not believe it you will go to hell.....who am i to judge and say those things... Im sure as heck not the author of the Quran.

    most of the people on here are very intelligent. Most..Smiley whatever you believe each human being is born alone and dies alone.

    The only reason i even posted anything was because i read a lot of mistakes posted from quotes from the Quran so I had a responsibility to set the record straight. =) but seeing all these responses just proves how passionate each person is about their beliefs....

    and thats what makes us human.  much love ya'll
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #237 - October 01, 2012, 07:38 PM

    =)  Tongue thnkyu far away hug

    ...................

    and thats what makes us human.  much love ya'll

    You are welcome dear soundwave12.. Off course we are all human and we are all connected ., I am glad to read your posts and thoughts.. please continue to read and post.. And let your friends and well wishers know about this forum..

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #238 - October 01, 2012, 08:54 PM

    Before anyone can give their 2 cents on any topic they discuss the person needs to be educated.   


    Agree, we are all educated here to a certain level, we are not Mufti neither are u and even if u r we can still discuss Islam or anything related to islam, if u think u have to be a Mufti to discuss Islam then u r simply appealing to Authority, most of us here were muslims for a very long period of their lives, u can't consider us ignorants or morons, some of us have read a lot about Islam some of us have read the Quran some of us have even read the Hadith but then in the end No one really knows everything about Islam.

    I have or wish no ill will upon any of you, in fact most of you sound intelligent and funny enough that if the circumstances were different we could have been friends hanging out talking about, religion politics and girls haha like i do with my friends.   


    Neither any of us wishes any ill will upon u, I don't know why would u get the impression that we could wish something evil upon u, maybe u r reflecting maybe not, maybe u r trying to make a point who knows but I assure u that I PERSONALLY hold no grudges against u, my responses most of the time can sound aggressive but that is just my style, I am aggressive in discussion even when I discuss matter with my mother or father but I still love them.

    Of course we can be good friends, actually 70% of my friends are muslims so I don't think I would have any kind of problems being a friend with u.

    In the end if we all understood the bigger picture of the religion itself and not just take excerpts from here and there I almost guarantee you that the discussion would be different.   


    We all understand the bigger picture of religion very well that is why we are here, we didn't decide to leave Islam in a day or 2, personally it took me 2 - 3 years to abandon Islam, it was a painful experience, believe me.

    In fact I never once said that Islam was the best or that it was correct or that if you do not believe it you will go to hell   


    We never said u said that, Islam claims that itself, Islam claims to be the Truth, upon claiming to be the truth u basically claim to be the BEST, it is really simple.

    who am i to judge and say those things... Im sure as heck not the author of the Quran.   


    The Author of the Quran made sure to claim the Quran was the word of God.

    ost of the people on here are very intelligent. Most.. whatever you believe each human being is born alone and dies alone.   


    I am sure u r a very smart person as well, I am sure u r also a courageous person as well, not many religious people would have the guts to sign up in these kinds of forums.

    The only reason i even posted anything was because i read a lot of mistakes posted from quotes from the Quran so I had a responsibility to set the record straight.   


    I would admit there is a lot of nonsense going on here but I don't think u straightened up anything about the Quran, u simply reasserted the same old claims many Muslims did, the same old stuff that have been debunked Thoroughly here, the big bang thing or whatever.

    Cheers bro, I hope u have a very good life Smiley

  • Re: Scientific Miracles in the Qur'an Debunked.
     Reply #239 - October 02, 2012, 12:02 AM

    The Author of the Quran made sure to claim the Quran was the word of God.

    That's very neat. Nuff said.
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