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 Topic: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only

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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #60 - March 27, 2009, 08:02 AM

    Quote from: Rashna
    Sina's a prick & you're a Holohoax denier, but claim 6-20 million Jews died in that alleged Holohoax, killed by Lutherian Cult Christians!

    Exactly. And being a Holocaust denier is much worse than being a prick.

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #61 - March 27, 2009, 09:08 AM

    BMZ, whats your answer to the original question?

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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #62 - March 27, 2009, 09:26 AM

    BMZ, whats your answer to the original question?


    It is a survey sort of question, Islame. There is no answer.

    But after a few days, I will write some conclusions that I made about the goon Ali Sian's site FFI.
    I put the question here as I get better answers compared with that site of hooligans.

    Cheers
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #63 - March 27, 2009, 09:32 AM

    Quote from: Rashna
    Sina's a prick & you're a Holohoax denier, but claim 6-20 million Jews died in that alleged Holohoax, killed by Lutherian Cult Christians!

    Exactly. And being a Holocaust denier is much worse than being a prick.


    Zaephon,

    Open a new topic if you wish to discuss the hollow 'Holocaust', please. I can deny it there and expose the fraud. There is no denial that the bastard Hitler and his bastard Nazis killed the Jews. It is just the number which has been bloated out of proportion. Go ahead and open a new topic.

    Please produce an audited, verified and certified list of six million! I will accept it then. I don't need pricks keep parroting that six million Jews were killed. I want proof.

    I will prove to you that six million were not killed.

    Cheers
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #64 - March 27, 2009, 10:06 AM

    Zaephon,

    Open a new topic if you wish to discuss the hollow 'Holocaust', please. I can deny it there and expose the fraud. There is no denial that the bastard Hitler and his bastard Nazis killed the Jews. It is just the number which has been bloated out of proportion. Go ahead and open a new topic.

    Please produce an audited, verified and certified list of six million! I will accept it then.

    Cheers
    BMZ


    Although I certainly do not deny the holocaust and know its a fact, but my reaction to the figure of 6,000,000 has always been surprise.  How long would it take to round up & kill 6 million Jews?  I am not saying its impossible without a nuclear bomb, but it would have taken a ridiculous amount of manpower, cost, time & dedication to this fruitless & evil cause envisaged by one man. 

    Perhaps its just wishful thinking on my part..

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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #65 - March 27, 2009, 10:08 AM

    BMZ, whats your answer to the original question?


    It is a survey sort of question, Islame. There is no answer.

    But after a few days, I will write some conclusions that I made about the goon Ali Sian's site FFI.
    I put the question here as I get better answers compared with that site of hooligans.

    Cheers
    BMZ

    By original question, I mean which sect did/do you belong to?

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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #66 - March 27, 2009, 11:16 AM

    Mom belonged to this sect of Islam-Dawoodi Bohras.Its a miniscule minority sect
     www.mumineen.org/

    I dunno how far I'm an ex Muslim because even though my father had never converted to Islam, he'd promised to raise his children as Muslims, but after we were born he did a volte face & felt that he had an obligation to raise us as Zoroastrians. My grandfather did recite the azaan in my & my brother's ears when we were born & my brother was circumcised too. The Bohras have female circumcision too, a very mild one but my dad was horrified at the thought, so I was never circumcised.

    My brother & I had the Zoroastrian initiation ceremony performed on us as well, where we get the thread called kushti.

    Although my maternal grandfather would've preferred us to become Muslims,  he never compelled us, reciting the Quranic verse, "There is no compulsion..." my brother & I chose to remain Zoroastrians. I also have a baby sister, 12 years younger I don't know what she'll choose to identify herself as.

    I've read Zoroastrian texts as well as Islamic, & its fairly obvious that I don't have a favorable opinion of Islam.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #67 - March 27, 2009, 11:33 AM

    Quote from: IsLame
    Although I certainly do not deny the holocaust and know its a fact, but my reaction to the figure of 6,000,000 has always been surprise.  How long would it take to round up & kill 6 million Jews?  I am not saying its impossible without a nuclear bomb, but it would have taken a ridiculous amount of manpower, cost, time & dedication to this fruitless & evil cause envisaged by one man.

    It took a long time alright, and the Holocaust required the creation of an industry dedicated to this purpose.

    By the way, the victims of the Holocaust are more than six million --six million is the number of Jewish victims. Freemasons, homosexuals, disabled people, political dissidents, ethnic Poles, communists, Jehovah witnesses were also persecuted and killed. The total victims of the Holocaust add up to 9-11 million. So yes, it is just wishful thinking on your part.

    Then again, why is it surprising? More than 50,000,000 people died in World War II. Do you find it any easier to imagine this? Warfare and genocide have been integral parts of human history, unfortunately. What made the Holocaust unique was not just the number of victims, but also the way the Nazis were fanatically devoted to exterminating Jews. Their propaganda had a pseudo-religious ambiance.
     
    Anyway, BMZ wants to spread the light about Holohoax, apparently. Let me create a new thread for this.

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #68 - March 27, 2009, 11:40 AM

    BMZ, whats your answer to the original question?


    It is a survey sort of question, Islame. There is no answer.

    But after a few days, I will write some conclusions that I made about the goon Ali Sian's site FFI.
    I put the question here as I get better answers compared with that site of hooligans.

    Cheers
    BMZ

    By original question, I mean which sect did/do you belong to?


    Used to be a Sunni, almost turned a Shiah during my teens. After reading, learning, studying and understanding Qur'aan, I am just a Muslim.

    I do not belong anymore to any sect. Even Prophet and the four were not Shias or Sunnis.

    BMZ

  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #69 - March 27, 2009, 11:41 AM

    Quote from: IsLame
    Although I certainly do not deny the holocaust and know its a fact, but my reaction to the figure of 6,000,000 has always been surprise.  How long would it take to round up & kill 6 million Jews?  I am not saying its impossible without a nuclear bomb, but it would have taken a ridiculous amount of manpower, cost, time & dedication to this fruitless & evil cause envisaged by one man.

    It took a long time alright, and the Holocaust required the creation of an industry dedicated to this purpose.

    By the way, the victims of the Holocaust are more than six million --six million is the number of Jewish victims. Freemasons, homosexuals, disabled people, political dissidents, ethnic Poles, communists, Jehovah witnesses were also persecuted and killed. The total victims of the Holocaust add up to 9-11 million. So yes, it is just wishful thinking on your part.

    Then again, why is it surprising? More than 50,000,000 people died in World War II. Do you find it any easier to imagine this? Warfare and genocide have been integral parts of human history, unfortunately. What made the Holocaust unique was not just the number of victims, but also the way the Nazis were fanatically devoted to exterminating Jews. Their propaganda had a pseudo-religious ambiance.
     
    Anyway, BMZ wants to spread the light about Holohoax, apparently. Let me create a new thread for this.


    Yes, please go ahead.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #70 - March 27, 2009, 11:44 AM

    Quote

    Used to be a Sunni, almost turned a Shiah during my teens. After reading, learning, studying and understanding Qur'aan, I am just a Muslim.

    I do not belong anymore to any sect. Even Prophet and the four were not Shias or Sunnis.

    BMZ



    Both Sunnis and Shi'as would claim the prophet as one of their own and that they are following the original philosophy-you are doing the same

    In response to your original question, I was born to a Sunni family, my father turned into a Salafi so I became a Salafi, after I was free from him I became a Shaf'i Muslim. Then for a short while I tried bralvi Islam. After this I just became a "moderate"-as in-I stopped believing in the Hadith and started believing in progression and pragmatism as a last ditch attempt to remain a Muslim. After that I became a Kaffir!

    Anyway ,since I answered your question it would be nice if you could answer mine. If you hate FFI so much, why do you keep coming back as differant reincarnations-your latest one being "Faruq"? Why are there 10 banned reincarnations of you on there? What do you have to say about being a super-troll with a record? It means you have an obsession-seek help

    Regards.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #71 - March 27, 2009, 11:50 AM

    Mom belonged to this sect of Islam-Dawoodi Bohras.Its a miniscule minority sect
     www.mumineen.org/

    I dunno how far I'm an ex Muslim because even though my father had never converted to Islam, he'd promised to raise his children as Muslims, but after we were born he did a volte face & felt that he had an obligation to raise us as Zoroastrians. My grandfather did recite the azaan in my & my brother's ears when we were born & my brother was circumcised too. The Bohras have female circumcision too, a very mild one but my dad was horrified at the thought, so I was never circumcised.

    My brother & I had the Zoroastrian initiation ceremony performed on us as well, where we get the thread called kushti.

    Although my maternal grandfather would've preferred us to become Muslims,  he never compelled us, reciting the Quranic verse, "There is no compulsion..." my brother & I chose to remain Zoroastrians. I also have a baby sister, 12 years younger I don't know what she'll choose to identify herself as.

    I've read Zoroastrian texts as well as Islamic, & its fairly obvious that I don't have a favorable opinion of Islam.


    That is all right. We do not really need a favourable opinion from anyone.

    Personally, I write on forums mainly to check misinformation, misinterpretation and misreporting on Qur'aan.
    And when a Christian does that, I go into Yahweh Mode.  Cheesy

    Cheers
    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #72 - March 27, 2009, 11:52 AM

    Quote from: BMZ
    We do not really need a favourable opinion from anyone.

    Ahhh.. the tribal mentality returns.  Roll Eyes

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #73 - March 27, 2009, 11:54 AM

    BMZ, whats your answer to the original question?


    It is a survey sort of question, Islame. There is no answer.

    But after a few days, I will write some conclusions that I made about the goon Ali Sian's site FFI.
    I put the question here as I get better answers compared with that site of hooligans.

    Cheers
    BMZ

    By original question, I mean which sect did/do you belong to?


    Used to be a Sunni, almost turned a Shiah during my teens. After reading, learning, studying and understanding Qur'aan, I am just a Muslim.

    I do not belong anymore to any sect. Even Prophet and the four were not Shias or Sunnis.

    BMZ



    Cop-out. I dont think anyone likes to be pidgeon-holed, I dont like calling myself a humanist but my views most closely relate to this philosophical viewpoint.  

    You must empathise with one sects views closer to any other, e.g. do you believe in pirs, do you follow the Quran literally, believe in all the hadith or just some etc.  

    Otherwise most people will just say they are Muslims (as my parents did, and I could have written down here), because their view of Islam is the one they follow - however can you see that this is always subjective and more closely fits one than another.  

    Ask the Saudis which version of Islam or sect they follow, answer: the true version.  Same answer will be given by everyone else.

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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #74 - March 27, 2009, 11:55 AM

    Help yourself, BMZ.

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=4796.msg122437;topicseen#new

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #75 - March 27, 2009, 12:40 PM

    Quote

    Used to be a Sunni, almost turned a Shiah during my teens. After reading, learning, studying and understanding Qur'aan, I am just a Muslim.

    I do not belong anymore to any sect. Even Prophet and the four were not Shias or Sunnis.

    BMZ



    Both Sunnis and Shi'as would claim the prophet as one of their own and that they are following the original philosophy-you are doing the same

    In response to your original question, I was born to a Sunni family, my father turned into a Salafi so I became a Salafi, after I was free from him I became a Shaf'i Muslim. Then for a short while I tried bralvi Islam. After this I just became a "moderate"-as in-I stopped believing in the Hadith and started believing in progression and pragmatism as a last ditch attempt to remain a Muslim. After that I became a Kaffir!

    Anyway ,since I answered your question it would be nice if you could answer mine. If you hate FFI so much, why do you keep coming back as differant reincarnations-your latest one being "Faruq"? Why are there 10 banned reincarnations of you on there? What do you have to say about being a super-troll with a record? It means you have an obsession-seek help

    Regards.


    Thank you for asking and giving me the chance to write on this.

    You are off topic and it would have been decent of you, if you had PMed me, instead of writing it here. In fact, with one of my nicks, I had a high and respectful opinion about you, if you are the same person whom I came across at FFI.

    Since you brought up this subject, let me tell you how it started. Do you know that the closet-apostate Ali Sina, whom i call a goon, does not understand Qur'aan in Arabic at all? He had confirmed to me that he made conclusions using English translations.

    When I was writing under BMZ, he once wrote, "The God of Muslims is a narcissist." I took him to task and asked him, "Ali, do you think that the God of the Bible is also a narcissist?" Ali Sina was in a dilemma. If he had said, 'Yes', he would have fucked up all his Christian and evangelical supporters, who are running that site. There is only one Jewish minion of Ali Sina, by the name galg and Ali could easily chuck him aside and replied, "The God of the Jews is a narcissist."

    When I took him to task, I was banned straight away by the moderator accusing me of multi-nicking, which I had not done at all. I asked the moderator to give me the nicks which I was accused of using. None. Instead, the excuse given was, "We cannot give you the nicks for the safety of the user."  Cheesy

    There is so much rubbish churned out on that site. Look at Haik Monsieur aka Khali Fariel aka Haji Murad. I had to demolish the fool for writing all the bullshits such as 'Qur'aan allows prostitution',etc. That had to be demolished. And if he keeps doing that, I will keep on demolishing.

    I know there are lots of polemic Sub-continental Hindus and Christians there, who vomit day and night along with the lead writers. Personally I remain in 'Jesus' Mode but when I see a lot of junk and stuff, I go into YHWH or Torah Mode.

    Why do you think Khalil Fariel changed his name? Because, he was throughly thrashed and demolished as haik Monsieur. I don't care about the lizard yeezevee and some others but I have to hammer the lead writers. Look at how nicely we thrashed another goon Abul Kasem. You must have read Myxtic's posts on 'Contradictions' by idiots like like Kamran Mirza and Abul Kasem.

    I believe in an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and I do not like turning the other cheek after looking at what happened to  poor Jesus.

    I do not write regularly here but do visit when I have something to ask or raise. The guys here are more civilized than those at FFI, where all ex-Muslims are still suffering from their 'Muslimness' and go into the Mullah Mode. You have seen how violent they get.  Cheesy

    That is a junk site. You can have twenty names. They are so petrified that even if it not me, they tell the moderator, 'must be BMZ'.  Cheesy Even Ali Sina and his goons have dozens of nicknames and keep writing. You can see how many E-Mails Ali Sina writes to himself.  Cheesy

    That site will self-destruct within a few years. The name behind the brand is not real. Let me tell you this aside: Ali Sina and teh lead writers will get Muslim funeral prayers and will be laid to rest like Muslims.  Cheesy How sad can the end be when a Mullah will say the prayers and the family, friends and relatives will be offering fateha!  Cheesy

    I think, with your post, I can tell the folks here about asking my question.

    Most of the folks here have been Sunnis.

    Most of the leading folks and culprits at FFI are ex-Shias and I caught them using Shia material, which the Shias use against the Sunnis in exchanges. The FFI buggers are filthy. Period. If they had been real good and honest people, this site would not have come up.

    Cheers, mate and tell them I will be visiting, if I see more junk. Did you notice how fast they clean the place in order to keep Hindu, Evangelical and other Islamophobes and Islam-haters happy? If a Hindu or a Christian or a Zorat writes bad about my religion, I will take him/her to task exactly in the same language.

    Thanks
    BMZ



     
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #76 - March 27, 2009, 12:42 PM

    Thank you, all.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #77 - March 27, 2009, 01:13 PM

    Quote
    Cheers, mate and tell them I will be visiting, if I see more junk. Did you notice how fast they clean the place in order to keep Hindu, Evangelical and other Islamophobes and Islam-haters happy? If a Hindu or a Christian or a Zorat writes bad about my religion, I will take him/her to task exactly in the same language.

    Thanks
    BMZ

     
    A "Zorat" indeed. That's the 2nd time you wrote that.

    I never spelt the name of Muhammad or Allah disrespectfully, it reflects badly upon you to stoop to this.

    "It may happen that the enemies of Islam may consider it expedient not to take any action against Islam, if Islam leaves them alone in their geographical boundaries... But Islam cannot agree to this unless they submit to its authority by paying Jizyah"

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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #78 - March 27, 2009, 01:24 PM

    Quote from: BMZ
    Most of the leading folks and culprits at FFI are ex-Shias and I caught them using Shia material, which the Shias use against the Sunnis in exchanges. The FFI buggers are filthy. Period. If they had been real good and honest people, this site would not have come up.

    You mean FFI is a Shia conspiracy against Sunnis?  Roll Eyes

    Quote from: BMZ
    When I was writing under BMZ, he once wrote, "The God of Muslims is a narcissist." I took him to task and asked him, "Ali, do you think that the God of the Bible is also a narcissist?" Ali Sina was in a dilemma. If he had said, 'Yes', he would have fucked up all his Christian and evangelical supporters, who are running that site. There is only one Jewish minion of Ali Sina, by the name galg and Ali could easily chuck him aside and replied, "The God of the Jews is a narcissist."

    So you are complaining that Ali Sina is an anti-Semite. Whereas you are not?  whistling2

    FinallyFree was right, and you just proved his point with that last post of yours. You are obsessed with Ali Sina. You just cannot quit the FFI, can you? Venting your self-righteous anger against evil Islamophobic infidels, and all that, right? That's because you never want to question Islam seriously. You give the impression of a deeply delusional person, BMZ.

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #79 - March 27, 2009, 03:10 PM

    i'm a ex-sunni. But i don't know why but, people love to call us wahabis.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #80 - March 27, 2009, 03:28 PM


    Why do you think Khalil Fariel changed his name? Because, he was throughly thrashed and demolished as haik Monsieur. 


    I doubt that was the reason since he signs his posts as indicated below.

    Quote
    Regds
    KF
    Previously Haik Monsieur === Islam Is Horrific Joke for a "Religion"
    KhaliL FarieL

     

    http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=23792&sid=75912e97f67ad6ab04a731da22906192#p23792


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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #81 - March 27, 2009, 04:44 PM

    Please let me know what sect did you belong to, when you were Muslims.

    That is all.

    Thanks
    BMZ


    Sunni.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #82 - March 27, 2009, 06:26 PM

    All though my exhusbands family considered themselves Sunni...very very unpracticing Sunnis...and most of the Muslims Im surrounded by are Sunni...Ive never considered myself Sunni...or Shiia...I just preferred the title Muslim.

    My belief was that Islam was meant to unite people under one banner....Muslim...so calling ourselves different things sort of defeated the purpose....just my opinion.

    btw the Sunnis I know get totally pissed off when I tell them Im just a Muslim (used  to be)...they seem to find this personally offensive...I dont know why  Huh?
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #83 - March 27, 2009, 10:18 PM


    I think, with your post, I can tell the folks here about asking my question.

    Most of the folks here have been Sunnis.

    Most of the leading folks and culprits at FFI are ex-Shias and I caught them using Shia material, which the Shias use against the Sunnis in exchanges. The FFI buggers are filthy. Period. If they had been real good and honest people, this site would not have come up.



    Eureka!  Sunnis are good, Shia's are bad.

    This theory has got legs, you might want to try and get it published in that internationally recognised journal "How to make 1+1 equal 3". 

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  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #84 - March 27, 2009, 10:45 PM

    Please let me know what sect did you belong to, when you were Muslims.

    That is all.

    Thanks
    BMZ


    Sunni - Shafi' Mathhab - (but I always considered the difference between Sunnis and Shia as unimportant and that we should be united.)
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #85 - March 28, 2009, 01:03 AM


    I think, with your post, I can tell the folks here about asking my question.

    Most of the folks here have been Sunnis.

    Most of the leading folks and culprits at FFI are ex-Shias and I caught them using Shia material, which the Shias use against the Sunnis in exchanges. The FFI buggers are filthy. Period. If they had been real good and honest people, this site would not have come up.



    Eureka!  Sunnis are good, Shia's are bad.

    This theory has got legs, you might want to try and get it published in that internationally recognised journal "How to make 1+1 equal 3". 


    It is no theory, Islame.

    The Shias are not bad.

    It is the ex-Shia-Muslim of FFI that is the vilest creature.  Cheesy Please tell the FFI goons about this conclusion.

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #86 - March 28, 2009, 01:06 AM

    Please let me know what sect did you belong to, when you were Muslims.

    That is all.

    Thanks
    BMZ


    Sunni - Shafi' Mathhab - (but I always considered the difference between Sunnis and Shia as unimportant and that we should be united.)


    Hello, Hasan

    You are right, mate.

    Salaams
    Baig M Z
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #87 - March 28, 2009, 01:07 AM

    Please let me know what sect did you belong to, when you were Muslims.

    That is all.

    Thanks
    BMZ


    Sunni.


    Thank you, Balthier

    BMZ
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #88 - March 28, 2009, 01:11 AM

    All though my exhusbands family considered themselves Sunni...very very unpracticing Sunnis...and most of the Muslims Im surrounded by are Sunni...Ive never considered myself Sunni...or Shiia...I just preferred the title Muslim.

    My belief was that Islam was meant to unite people under one banner....Muslim...so calling ourselves different things sort of defeated the purpose....just my opinion.

    btw the Sunnis I know get totally pissed off when I tell them Im just a Muslim (used  to be)...they seem to find this personally offensive...I dont know why  Huh?


    You are right, coolred. Excellent answer.

    Most of the Sunnis think they own Islam. They consider one a Muslim, if one believes in all extra material like Hadith and madahibs. If you don't they are displeased.

    You reject Hadith and they will come upon you like a ton of bricks.
  • Re: A Question to Ex-Muslims Only
     Reply #89 - March 28, 2009, 01:17 AM

    i'm a ex-sunni. But i don't know why but, people love to call us wahabis.


    Thanks, li

    Even I don't know why do they do that. You can describe Wahabis simply as those, who just bury their dead
    and return home without even praying for the poor soul.

    Once, I attended the funeral of my friend's mother. After she was buried, most of us wanted to offer
    the usual dua and his father said, "No need! We don't do that!"

    BMZ
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