Apostate during the time of Muhammad.

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Apostate during the time of Muhammad.
OP - April 07, 2009, 05:08 PM

Hi,

I remember reading about a sahaba who was a scribe of the Qur'an. Muhammad was once reciting a revelation and at the end of the ayat, the man said something praising the ayat. Muhammad told him that what he said came from Allah and to include it on the end of the ayat. He realised that it obviously did not come from God and came to the conclusion that Muhammad was a phoney and he left Islam.

What was his name and who was he, because I cannot find any information on him!

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Reply #1 - April 07, 2009, 05:14 PM

Wasn't that Abdullah Sarh :

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From Ali Dashti's "23 Years, A study of the prophetic career of Muhammad", page 98.

"The last man named [in the list of people to be killed] had been one of the scribes employed at Medina to write down the 'revelations'. On a number of occassions, with Muhammad's consent, he changed the closing words of verses. For example, when Muhammad said "And God is mighty and wise", Abdullah Sarh suggested 'knowing and wise', and the prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Abdullah renounced Islam on the ground that the revelations, if from God, could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy, he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites."

So you see the background behind the order to murder Abdullah. He was a threat to the credibility of the Qur'an. He was a Muslim, worked with Muhammad in writing down the Qur'an, and, from time to time he suggested some minor changes. Finally Abdullah realized that if this were truly from God, no changes would be made at the suggestion of a mere scribe. So, he realized Islam was false, and went back to Mecca. After Muhammad took Mecca, and issued the order to kill him, he hid out with Uthman who was one of Muhammad's closest companions. Later Abdullah pled for amnesty. Muhammad wanted one of his men to kill him on the spot, but they didn't know, because they couldn't read Muhammad's mind. So, finally Muhammad gave him amnesty.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/Enemies/meccan10.html

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Reply #2 - April 07, 2009, 06:28 PM

Thanks Berbs!

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Reply #3 - March 23, 2014, 04:29 PM

how authentic is this hadith, I know a lot of scholars disclaim some hadith they claim to be inauthentic

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Reply #4 - March 23, 2014, 05:27 PM

Did Sahaba leave Islam Sheikh Mumtaz ul Haq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48zWMsJym6w

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.... off course he is a Shia Imam..

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Reply #5 - April 05, 2014, 02:53 PM

"I Knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then." Alice in wonderland

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