Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions

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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #30 - April 19, 2009, 10:18 PM

Quote from: Zaephon on April 19, 2009, 10:10 PM
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well, to me the wisdom in the quran came from out of this world

You mean like aliens?

something like that

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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #31 - April 20, 2009, 01:41 AM

Quote from: kope on April 19, 2009, 10:04 PM
well, to me the wisdom in the quran came from out of this world

C'mon, let me try to understand why you believe that there is a God, I'm genuinely curious. Please answer my question.
BTW what wisdom?
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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #32 - April 20, 2009, 02:00 AM

Quote from: freakzilla on April 20, 2009, 01:41 AM
Quote from: kope on April 19, 2009, 10:04 PM
well, to me the wisdom in the quran came from out of this world

C'mon, let me try to understand why you believe that there is a God, I'm genuinely curious. Please answer my question.
BTW what wisdom?

wisdom = wise sayings

do you believe in evolution?

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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #33 - April 20, 2009, 05:13 AM

Thanks for your responses kope, but could you elaborate? I'm not sure I know what you mean.

Quote from: kope on April 18, 2009, 11:11 PM
Quote from: AlmostAisha on April 18, 2009, 09:00 PM
Quote from: kope on April 18, 2009, 08:21 PM
no it is not fault of god nor human, you see after god sent message, human misinterprete his book after hundreads of years

is god too busy with something else? can't he take some time to clear up the misunderstandings and set us straight again?

god dont need to do that

he doesn't need to give us a clear message? then why did he send messengers in the first place?

Quote from: kope on April 18, 2009, 11:11 PM
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and if he is really perfect, wouldn't he have the ability to send down a perfect message that is clear enough that humans won't misinterpret? or is our power to mess things up GREATER than the power of god to be clear?

if god sent thousand of books human still be confuss

doesn't this mean that god is not omnipotent, if he is not powerful enough to create a message that we can't misinterpret?

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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #34 - April 20, 2009, 08:10 AM

Quote from: kope on April 20, 2009, 02:00 AM
Quote from: freakzilla on April 20, 2009, 01:41 AM
Quote from: kope on April 19, 2009, 10:04 PM
well, to me the wisdom in the quran came from out of this world

C'mon, let me try to understand why you believe that there is a God, I'm genuinely curious. Please answer my question.
BTW what wisdom?

wisdom = wise sayings

do you believe in evolution?

Kope, we know what the word "wisdom" means. What Freakzilla was asking you was "What parts of the Quran do you regard as wisdom?"

Don't say "All of it". Give examples. Discuss why you regard them as wise.

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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #35 - April 20, 2009, 04:00 PM

Quote from: kope on April 18, 2009, 08:21 PM
Quote from: Hassan on April 18, 2009, 08:06 PM
Quote from: kope on April 18, 2009, 07:56 PM
Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions

Many Muslims (not all ) believe only muslims go to paradise, which makes God unjust

Christians believe God became man and died for sin and eat/ shit as a man, which makes God irrational

Jews believe they are chosen by God, which makes God a bigot

Hindus believe God can became a man, cow, snake, monkey, elephant and eat/shit as a man

The reason for people to reject God because all believers in God attribute irrationality to God.

I guess God is a bad communicator.

no it is not fault of god nor human, you see after god sent message, human misinterprete his book after hundreads of years

You've got it all wrong. La illaha. There is no god.

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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #36 - April 20, 2009, 07:45 PM

Quote from: fading on April 20, 2009, 04:00 PM
You've got it all wrong. La illaha. There is no god.

I actually use that in the original arabic as my signature on about 3 different online forums!

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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #37 - April 20, 2009, 10:40 PM

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I will quote Omar Khayyam here for you:

You want to know the Secret--so did I,
Low in the dust I sought it, and on high
Sought it in awful flight from star to star,
The Sultan's watchman of the starry sky.

Up, up, where Parwin's hoofs stamp heaven's floor,
My soul went knocking at each starry door,
Till on the stilly top of heaven's stair,
Clear-eyed I looked--and laughed--and climbed no more.

Of all my seeking this is all my gain:
No agony of any mortal brain
Shall wrest the secret of the life of man;
The Search has taught me that the Search is vain.

Look not above, there is no answer there;
Pray not, for no one listens to your prayer;
Near is as near to God as any Far,
And Here is just the same deceit as There.

But here are wine and beautiful young girls,
Be wise and hide your Sorrows in their curls,
Dive as you will in life's mysterious sea,
You shall not bring us any better pearls.

Allah, perchance, the secret word might spell;
If Allah be, He keeps His secret well;
What He hath hidden, who shall hope to find?
Shall God His secret to a maggot tell?

So since with all my passion and my skill,
The world's mysterious meaning mocks me still,
Shall I not piously believe that I
Am kept in darkness by the heavenly will?

The Koran! well, come put me to the test--
Lovely old book in hideous error drest--
Believe me, I can quote the Koran too,
The unbeliever knows his Koran best.

And do you think that unto such as you,
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew,
God gave the Secret, and denied it to me?--
Well, well, what matters it! believe that too.

If I were God, and this poor world were mine,
O thou shouldst see on what a fair design
I would rebuild it like a dream for thee,
Nor shouldst thou ever blush to call it thine.

If I were God, the very stars and flowers
Should be more fair, and all the sterns and sours
Change to a music sweet as rivers flowing--
If I were God, and this poor world were ours.

If I were God, I would not wait the years
To solve the mystery of human tears;
And, unambiguous, I would speak my will,
Nor hint it darkly to the dreaming seers.

That's awesome, especially the last verse.
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Re: Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions
Reply #38 - April 21, 2009, 01:24 PM

Quote from: kope on April 18, 2009, 08:21 PM
Quote from: Hassan on April 18, 2009, 08:06 PM
Quote from: kope on April 18, 2009, 07:56 PM
Description of God is corrupted by followers of all religions

Many Muslims (not all ) believe only muslims go to paradise, which makes God unjust

Christians believe God became man and died for sin and eat/ shit as a man, which makes God irrational

Jews believe they are chosen by God, which makes God a bigot

Hindus believe God can became a man, cow, snake, monkey, elephant and eat/shit as a man

The reason for people to reject God because all believers in God attribute irrationality to God.

I guess God is a bad communicator.

no it is not fault of god nor human, you see after god sent message, human misinterprete his book after hundreads of years

i do not believe you kope. Your assumptions are not real.

"Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
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