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  • Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     OP - April 19, 2009, 07:47 AM
    Post deleted. Will post later.

    BMZ

  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #1 - April 19, 2009, 07:53 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 19, 2009, 07:47 AM
    In this regard, I must mention an Indian Kafir, who carries the nickname Ayesha Ahmed, another pathological liar, who writes for FFI and wrote this:

    Quote
    65.4 "If you divorce your (child) wife before she reaches menstruation age her idda is three months?"


    Note how the wretched woman has added the word child in above!


    So its a lie according to you that a girl who hasn't reached puberty is a child?  Huh?
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #2 - April 19, 2009, 07:57 AM
    How long are you going to be here?

    I posted this but deleted it after I saw you in Damnation.

    Have a look and throw some light on this subject. I think we can discuss it here:

    Having discussed a few issues, I feel it is now time to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind.

    1. Why is a Kafir a pathological liar?

    I have noticed that a pathological liar on the forums, lies ceaselessly to get his way, without any regard or concern for the feeling of others, to whom he/she is telling all the lies. The only "positive" point in the favor of a Pathological Liar is that he is really focussed on lying and does it so well.  Cheesy Having said this, another question arises:

    2. Why is a Kafir cunning and manipulative, while compulsive liars are not?

    3. In this regard, I must mention an Indian Kafir, who carries the nickname Ayesha Ahmed, another pathological liar, who writes for FFI and wrote this:

    Quote
    65.4 "If you divorce your (child) wife before she reaches menstruation age her idda is three months?"

    Note how the wretched woman has added the word child in above!

    How could the pathological kafir liars do this? Has this got something to do with childhood problems and some sort of mental  and personality disorder?

    Cheers
    BMZ





  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #3 - April 19, 2009, 08:03 AM
    BMZ, is a pre menstrual girl not a child?
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #4 - April 19, 2009, 08:05 AM
    Quote from: Rashna on April 19, 2009, 07:53 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 19, 2009, 07:47 AM
    In this regard, I must mention an Indian Kafir, who carries the nickname Ayesha Ahmed, another pathological liar, who writes for FFI and wrote this:

    Quote
    65.4 "If you divorce your (child) wife before she reaches menstruation age her idda is three months?"


    Note how the wretched woman has added the word child in above!


    So its a lie according to you that a girl who hasn't reached puberty is a child?  Huh?


    Hello, Rashna

    I have posted in Damnation. Please discuss the full post there, not here. I will not be writing in this thread. Yes! That is a lie.

    Thanks
    BMZ
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #5 - April 19, 2009, 08:10 AM
    BMZ had earlier posted this issue in a thread in religion & god, which he has deleted, but before that I had answered his post.

    BMZ says that its a lie that a pre menstrual girl is a child. So pre menstrual girl isn't a child at all.

    Quote
    Hello, Rashna

    I have posted in Damnation. Please discuss the full post there, not here. I will not be writing in this thread. Yes! That is a lie.

    Thanks
    BMZ


    What do you think?
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #6 - April 19, 2009, 08:14 AM
    Of course a female that hasn't reached her menses is still a child. Would BMZ be cool with marrying his hypothetical premenstrual girl to a 60 yr. old man? Tongue
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #7 - April 19, 2009, 08:18 AM
    Quote from: Rashna on April 19, 2009, 08:03 AM
    BMZ, is a pre menstrual girl not a child?


    Are you discussing the verse referred to, in the manipulated translation by the pathological liar Ayesha Ahmed or are you asking a general question? Clarify that, please. It is necessary because this topic takes into consideration the paralysis of a Kafir's mind.

    So, you must put forward questions very clearly!

    BMZ
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #8 - April 19, 2009, 08:21 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 19, 2009, 08:18 AM
    Are you discussing the verse referred to, in the manipulated translation by the pathological liar Ayesha Ahmed or are you asking a general question? Clarify that, please. It is necessary because this topic takes into consideration the paralysis of a Kafir's mind.

    So, you must put forward questions very clearly!

    BMZ


    I'm asking a general question, is a pre menstrual girl not a child?
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #9 - April 19, 2009, 08:22 AM
    Quote from: awais on April 19, 2009, 08:14 AM
    Of course a female that hasn't reached her menses is still a child. Would BMZ be cool with marrying his hypothetical premenstrual girl to a 60 yr. old man? Tongue


    It is a cool question. Have you seen anyone in Muslim families doing that, during you 'Muslim' days?

    We will discuss this when we discuss the paralysis of the kafir mind in detail later.

    Cheers
    BMZ
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #10 - April 19, 2009, 08:25 AM
    What happened to your mind?

    I asked you first.
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #11 - April 19, 2009, 08:28 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 19, 2009, 08:22 AM
    It is a cool question. Have you seen anyone in Muslim families doing that, during you 'Muslim' days?
    We will discuss this when we discuss the paralysis of the kafir mind in detail later.

    Cheers
    BMZ


    Muslims don't always do exactly whatever Islam preaches, if we were to judge Islam by what Muslims do & whatever we've seen them doing in many places the world over in recent years, we're going to have an extremely poor impression of Islam-what with all the terrorist attacks worldwide.

    I'm sure you'll claim that all that isn't Islamic.

    As for getting children married to older men, here's an example right from your part of the world-South East Asia, where a Muslim cleric, no less, married a 7 year old.

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=3586.0
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #12 - April 19, 2009, 08:31 AM
    Quote from: awais on April 19, 2009, 08:25 AM
    What happened to your mind?

    I asked you first.


    He is here to analyze kafir mind when he himself is a victim of a cult . He is simply hopeless and I am amazed that he calls kafirs cunning when he himself lies comfortably here. Look at the issue hand.There are tafsirs for 65:4 which all tell us that its a child marriage is allowed. We even have a hadith for that. He will reject them and call himself as the authority . All he has to do is say they didnt understand and then blame the kafirs for not understanding. Quran only muslims are the most dishonest people I have ever seen on earth.
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #13 - April 19, 2009, 08:36 AM
    On what basis would you say that it is a lie? I'd be very interested to hear your reasoning. Most people would consider that a girl who has not reached puberty is a child. In fact most people would consider that a girl who has just reached puberty is still a child.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #14 - April 19, 2009, 08:40 AM
    surely the paralysis is with the muslim mind as it is he who is ascribing it to others and it is he who cant see past his petty crap

    now, i read that verse over and over in differant translations, stop stalling and answer the question! There is no translation i have read which suggests that this means anything but pre-pubescent girls.

    if you want to try the logical fallacy of suggesting that it isnt true because no muslim does it. well, most muslims dont flog people or stone them anymore either and that's right there in the quran, so just cause most muslims dont marry young girls (and there are some in iran, afghanistan, saudi and other tribal based countries) doesnt mean it isnt sanctioned ya giant monkeys ass.

    paralysis of whos mind? your mind you fool, I dont need to lie about any scripture because i dont believe in any, but you need to spare yourself the embarrassment of what your brothers are doin and what it says in your crappy no-good texts.
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #15 - April 19, 2009, 08:41 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 19, 2009, 08:18 AM
    Quote from: Rashna on April 19, 2009, 08:03 AM
    BMZ, is a pre menstrual girl not a child?


    Are you discussing the verse referred to, in the manipulated translation by the pathological liar Ayesha Ahmed or are you asking a general question? Clarify that, please. It is necessary because this topic takes into consideration the paralysis of a Kafir's mind.

    So, you must put forward questions very clearly!

    BMZ

    This kafir's mind is not at all paralysed. I can see you are being highly evasive in your response to Rashna. I suspect this is because if you could not rely on being evasive you would be paralysed by fear of having to admit the simple truth: that a girl who is to young to have reached puberty is a child.

    BMZ, I will put forward a question very clearly and I expect you to answer it very clearly. No prevaricating. No evasion.

    If a girl is too young to have reached puberty is she a child or not?
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #16 - April 19, 2009, 08:44 AM
    You are such a fine example of Muslim bigotry, BMZ. Kaffir this, Kaffir that.

    Quote from: BMZ"
    without any regard or concern for the feeling of others

    You mean Muslims are overflowing with concern for others?

    I thought you had parted ways with COEM, BMZ? Are you back to discuss Mohammad's pedophilia, or to prove your fictional version of the Holocaust? You may refer to either one of these threads.

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=4640.0

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=4796.0
    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #17 - April 19, 2009, 08:50 AM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on April 19, 2009, 08:40 AM
    surely the paralysis is with the muslim mind as it is he who is ascribing it to others and it is he who cant see past his petty crap

    now, i read that verse over and over in differant translations, stop stalling and answer the question! There is no translation i have read which suggests that this means anything but pre-pubescent girls.

    if you want to try the logical fallacy of suggesting that it isnt true because no muslim does it. well, most muslims dont flog people or stone them anymore either and that's right there in the quran, so just cause most muslims dont marry young girls (and there are some in iran, afghanistan, saudi and other tribal based countries) doesnt mean it isnt sanctioned ya giant monkeys ass.

    paralysis of whos mind? your mind you fool, I dont need to lie about any scripture because i dont believe in any, but you need to spare yourself the embarrassment of what your brothers are doin and what it says in your crappy no-good texts.


    Mate you dont know this dishonest guy. He had discussion about this issue over FFI and he was defeated clearly . Now you will see he coming with arabic bullshit and trolling the forum. The verse 65:4 is clear and it says "Those who havent menustruated" . This means young girls . Now you may expect to come here and say thats referring to women who have menopause.Thats clearly not what the verse tells us.
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #18 - April 19, 2009, 08:50 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 19, 2009, 08:22 AM

    It is a cool question. Have you seen anyone in Muslim families doing that, during you 'Muslim' days?



    BMZ, this is especially for you-  dance its a world record, the world's youngest divorcee, a 9 year old yemeni girl, married off to an older man Yep, she's from a Muslim family, & her dad married her off.
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #19 - April 19, 2009, 08:54 AM
    Quote from: Rashna on April 19, 2009, 07:53 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 19, 2009, 07:47 AM
    In this regard, I must mention an Indian Kafir, who carries the nickname Ayesha Ahmed, another pathological liar, who writes for FFI and wrote this:

    Quote
    65.4 "If you divorce your (child) wife before she reaches menstruation age her idda is three months?"


    Note how the wretched woman has added the word child in above!


    So its a lie according to you that a girl who hasn't reached puberty is a child?  Huh?


    Rashna is this quote from the Quran - what does 'Idda' mean?
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  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #20 - April 19, 2009, 08:55 AM
    It's the time that must elapse before re-marriage.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #21 - April 19, 2009, 08:56 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on April 19, 2009, 08:54 AM
    Rashna is this quote from the Quran - what does 'Idda' mean?

    It is. What Os said.
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #22 - April 19, 2009, 08:59 AM
    Is this in the Quran as I have never come across it before? If it is its a damning blwo to those who argue Aisha's age and dont accept the hadith.  In fact its quite a blow for Islam in general - no wonder bmz doesnt wont to discuss it!
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  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #23 - April 19, 2009, 08:59 AM
    Quote from: skynightblaze on April 19, 2009, 08:50 AM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on April 19, 2009, 08:40 AM
    surely the paralysis is with the muslim mind as it is he who is ascribing it to others and it is he who cant see past his petty crap

    now, i read that verse over and over in differant translations, stop stalling and answer the question! There is no translation i have read which suggests that this means anything but pre-pubescent girls.

    if you want to try the logical fallacy of suggesting that it isnt true because no muslim does it. well, most muslims dont flog people or stone them anymore either and that's right there in the quran, so just cause most muslims dont marry young girls (and there are some in iran, afghanistan, saudi and other tribal based countries) doesnt mean it isnt sanctioned ya giant monkeys ass.

    paralysis of whos mind? your mind you fool, I dont need to lie about any scripture because i dont believe in any, but you need to spare yourself the embarrassment of what your brothers are doin and what it says in your crappy no-good texts.


    Mate you dont know this dishonest guy. He had discussion about this issue over FFI and he was defeated clearly . Now you will see he coming with arabic bullshit and trolling the forum. The verse 65:4 is clear and it says "Those who havent menustruated" . This means young girls . Now you may expect to come here and say thats referring to women who have menopause.Thats clearly not what the verse tells us.


    well thats just fine with me cause when you work in saudi for years upon years you learn some arabic. unless hes an arab i doubt his arabic is that good and from what i can understand this isnt referring to menopause at all. im sure all other arabic speakers on that place ffi and here have said samish things.

    let me give you some free advice BMZ-if you are so insecure about yer religion that you have to lie about what the kuran says, then stay away from places where you have to defend it and stay home reading it until it blocks out all other thoughts.

  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #24 - April 19, 2009, 09:00 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on April 19, 2009, 08:54 AM
    Rashna is this quote from the Quran - what does 'Idda' mean?


    Os & awais answered for me.  Smiley

    See, we won't have much trouble dealing with the hadith deniers-be it violence or other unpleasant stuff-its all there in the Quran& hadiths only throw further light upon these!  yay
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #25 - April 19, 2009, 09:03 AM
    BMZ, right at the moment I'm not in the mood for pandering to trolling. If you want to discuss the paralysis of the kafir mind you can discuss it right here with a nice bunch of kafirs. Get cracking, sunshine.

    Now, how about answering my question: If a girl is too young to have reached puberty is she a child or not?
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #26 - April 19, 2009, 10:08 AM
    Quote from: BMZ on April 19, 2009, 08:22 AM
    Quote from: awais on April 19, 2009, 08:14 AM
    Of course a female that hasn't reached her menses is still a child. Would BMZ be cool with marrying his hypothetical premenstrual girl to a 60 yr. old man? Tongue


    It is a cool question. Have you seen anyone in Muslim families doing that, during you 'Muslim' days?


    The reasons Muslims dont do it today, is because the majority accept modern societal conventions over above the Quran.

    You dont accept the hadith if it contravenes the Quran.  And you dont accept the Quran if it contravenes what Muslims do today.  Cheesy

    And you dont accept what Muslims do today as it contravenes the Quran.   idiot2
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  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #27 - April 19, 2009, 10:08 AM
    A few points:

    • 1) How this man BMZ - who has pretended to be dozens if not hundreds of different people over the internet, including an oversexed pilot, an army colonel, and a renound surgeon - has the audacity to call anyone liar is beyond me.
    • 2) Saying Kafirs are mentally paralyzed liars because of the lies of one Kafir is precisely the kind of sweeping generalization BMZ and his ilk resent so deeply.
    • 3) He couldn't even find a genuine example of a lying Kafir! Ayesha Ahmed's summary of pre menstrual female = child is 100% correct. To think there are 4.5 billion Kafirs on planet Earth and he couldn't even find a lying one to prove his point!
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  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #28 - April 19, 2009, 10:12 AM
    I expect we'll be adding this topic to the list of topics BMZ has run away from. He's great at making assertions but terrible at sticking around to back them up.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Wanted to discuss The Paralysis of the Kafir Mind
     Reply #29 - April 19, 2009, 10:32 AM
    Quote from: Astaghfirullah on April 19, 2009, 08:40 AM

    paralysis of whos mind? your mind you fool,


    And may I know who is this fool talking to me? Which wilderness do you come from?

    BMZ
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