Ayesha Murdered Muhammad, with Extreme Sex!!!

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Re: Ayesha Murdered Muhammad, with Extreme Sex!!!
Reply #60 - May 19, 2009, 02:35 PM

Quote from: Rashna on May 19, 2009, 02:06 PM
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Quote from: Rashna on May 19, 2009, 01:57 PM
His other wives never fucked him when he was that sick-in any case someone like Sawda would herself have taken things slow.

Sauda gave her nights up for Aisha cause Mo didn't wanna have sex with an old lady.

Did he tell that condition to Sauda before marriage, that he'd prefer a young woman to her? Also, I think Islam requires a man to treat all his wives equally.

No he didn't. Islam requires all men APART from Mo to treat their wives equally. Remember Mo has a favourite wife which isn't allowed according to his religion; the Quran allows him to not keep to his turns and his wives should be happy with what they receive and Mo also slept with Mariah on Hafsa's night. Not sure if he broke any other rules concerning treatment of wives.

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Re: Ayesha Murdered Muhammad, with Extreme Sex!!!
Reply #61 - May 19, 2009, 02:43 PM

Quote from: PeruvianSkies on May 19, 2009, 02:35 PM
No he didn't. Islam requires all men APART from Mo to treat their wives equally. Remember Mo has a favourite wife which isn't allowed according to his religion; the Quran allows him to not keep to his turns and his wives should be happy with what they receive and Mo also slept with Mariah on Hafsa's night. Not sure if he broke any other rules concerning treatment of wives.

oh,

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Re: Ayesha Murdered Muhammad, with Extreme Sex!!!
Reply #62 - May 19, 2009, 02:47 PM

Quote from: Rashna on May 19, 2009, 01:57 PM
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Given the life expectancies then & given the gamut of experience Ayesha had already had, not to mention that she was an adult even by the very lax standards of our time-what did her youth have to do with it?

What did her youth have to do with fucking him to death?

If it was sex wouldn't she have remembered all the other wives he had fucked through time?

As the article & I had speculated, it might have given him a cardiac arrest when he was already sick. The other wives didn't fuck him when he was sick.

As Muhammad's life is narrated, he was very sick, he wanted to go to Ayesha, when he died Ayesha remembered that he had died with his head in her neck & their salivas were mixed-so they smooched.

Ayesha herself somehow said that it was due to her ignorance & extreme youth that he died. That might well be guilt.

Also, since she was an 18 year old, she could have pretty passionate sex, which wasn't healthy for a sick old man in his sixties. That excitement might have been too much for his poor, sick heart to take & being 18 she might not know that one has to take things slow with an old man.

His other wives never fucked him when he was that sick-in any case someone like Sawda would herself have taken things slow.

Of course, as I have admitted weeks back, this is all pure speculation.

Why would she have taken things slow?

First you make up things about aisha, ie that she had some huge sexual appetite and then you imply that older women wouldn't be like that.

How is it you are able to say aisha had one, from your guess work, yet your guess work, which is obviously age biased, won't apply the same guess to his other wives.

You really keep trying to milk a way out of this in which you can still sort of maintain that your inferences hold more merit than mine.

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Re: Ayesha Murdered Muhammad, with Extreme Sex!!!
Reply #63 - May 19, 2009, 02:59 PM

Quote from: BerberElla on May 19, 2009, 02:47 PM
Why would she have taken things slow?

First you make up things about aisha, ie that she had some huge sexual appetite and then you imply that older women wouldn't be like that.

How is it you are able to say aisha had one, from your guess work, yet your guess work, which is obviously age biased, won't apply the same guess to his other wives.

You really keep trying to milk a way out of this in which you can still sort of maintain that your inferences hold more merit than mine.

I don't say that my inference has more weight than yours, this is my speculation, its just my speculation & I had accepted long ago that I may be wrong-weeks before you even posted.

Again, I don't know whether it would apply to his other wives or not-it may, it may not-point is that he spent his last night with Ayesha, they were at least kissing when he died & for some reason she blamed her youth & ignorance for the death.

That might be plain guilt-but 18 year old Ayesha was lacking neither in age nor adequate life experiences-so her sentence seems strange. She probably wouldn't have learnt anything special had she been older by a few years, so why make such a statement in a moment of guilt?

As I said, your explanation might be true as well.

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It is well known that he died saying 'Al salah, al salah!'

I couldn't find the al salah bit.

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Re: Ayesha Murdered Muhammad, with Extreme Sex!!!
Reply #64 - May 19, 2009, 04:51 PM

Quote from: Rashna on May 19, 2009, 02:59 PM
Quote from: fading on April 26, 2009, 09:04 PM
It is well known that he died saying 'Al salah, al salah!'

I couldn't find the al salah bit.

Quote from: http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/45841
Abu Dawood (5156)and Ibn Maajah (2698) narrated that ?Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The last words that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) spoke were, ?The prayer, the prayer! And fear Allaah with regard to those whom your right hands possess.? This was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood. And there are other similar ahaadeeth.

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Re: Ayesha Murdered Muhammad, with Extreme Sex!!!
Reply #65 - May 19, 2009, 05:00 PM

Quote from: awais on May 19, 2009, 04:51 PM
Quote from: Rashna on May 19, 2009, 02:59 PM
Quote from: fading on April 26, 2009, 09:04 PM
It is well known that he died saying 'Al salah, al salah!'

I couldn't find the al salah bit.

Quote from: http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/45841
Abu Dawood (5156)and Ibn Maajah (2698) narrated that ?Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The last words that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) spoke were, ?The prayer, the prayer! And fear Allaah with regard to those whom your right hands possess.? This was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood. And there are other similar ahaadeeth.

Thanks, but Sahih Bukhari is the most authentic collection of hadith, ranked in importance right after the Quran & Sahih Bukhari hadiths say this quite unambiguously:

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 144:
Narrated 'Aisha:

that during his fatal ailment, Allah's Apostle, used to ask his wives, "Where shall I stay tomorrow? Where shall I stay tomorrow?" He was looking forward to Aisha's turn. So all his wives allowed him to stay where he wished, and he stayed at 'Aisha's house till he died there. 'Aisha added: He died on the day of my usual turn at my house. Allah took him unto Him while his head was between my chest and my neck and his saliva was mixed with my saliva.

I don't think that Ali was a spectator in the bedroom where Ayesha & Muhammad had shared an intimate moment-so those might well be Muhammad's last words in public, it doesn't mean that he died reciting those, as fading said.

Aisha who in all probability was the sole spectator, recalls no such words & the position Muhammad was in ie "while his head was between my chest and my neck and his saliva was mixed with my saliva" would make it difficult to speak anything at all.

Was Muhammad mumbling those words with his head between Ayesha's chest & neck & peeping Tom Ali heard those?

So he didn't say those words while dying...

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