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OP - May 07, 2009, 01:12 PM

A very interesting and moving real-life story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3q6Cid1po
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Reply #1 - May 07, 2009, 01:41 PM

enjoyed the video

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Reply #2 - May 07, 2009, 01:48 PM

Thanks for sharing Hass. 'Inspirational'

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Reply #3 - May 07, 2009, 02:08 PM

It's a shame his de-conversion letd to the break up of his family. But just goes to show the strength of faith.

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Reply #4 - May 07, 2009, 03:03 PM

Quote from: a.ghazali on May 07, 2009, 02:08 PM
It's a shame his de-conversion letd to the break up of his family. But just goes to show the strength of faith.

and how problematic other people's faith can be..

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Reply #5 - May 07, 2009, 05:04 PM

Any chances of such a thing happening to our Sparky?

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Reply #6 - May 07, 2009, 05:08 PM

who knows, but he was a fairly rational being, so I suspect his faith was weakened after our tete-a-tete's

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Reply #7 - May 07, 2009, 05:26 PM

Quote from: IsLame on May 07, 2009, 05:08 PM
who knows, but he was a fairly rational being, so I suspect his faith was weakened after our tete-a-tete's

He was certainly both rational & knowledgable,& I do feel he was a missionary type, infact the only missionary type we've had, the other Christians on our boards were just anti Islam. Of course, I can't be sure of this.

I really haven't come across another religious person of his calibre on this board, & I say this as a sincere compliment-most of the others have been damn funny(no examples ), crass & funny(again obvious who I'm indicating ), people who conveniently dodge difficult issues & questions & refuse to back up their assertions,who manage to interpret an obviously & unambiguously anti women or anti gay story into ways which satisfy them, or those who're genuinely ignorant about the unpleasant aspects of their faith.

Sparky was in a difficult position, being outnumbered by so many non believers, his position was made doubly difficult by the fact that he was trying to defend the truly vile aspects of his theology, while simulteneously trying to justify his stance that the Good Book was the paragon of divine wishdom, while Islamic Scriptures were erroneous & unpleasant-& he didn't manage to convince any ex Muslims here.

He was also able to see all the flaws in Islam, but was blind to the same or similar flaws in his faith, but other than that-he knew his Bible well, knew Islam well & did try to answer all our questions to the best of his ability & was a valiant & capable defender of his faith.

No wonder the thread, "Readings from the Holy Book" is one of CEOMB's longest & most viewed threads!

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Reply #8 - May 07, 2009, 05:33 PM

Yep, that was one to go down in history for sure.. we should do a favourite thread ever..

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Reply #9 - May 07, 2009, 07:30 PM

Quote from: Rashna on May 07, 2009, 05:04 PM
Any chances of such a thing happening to our Sparky?

Somehow I doubt it - he just seemed so sure of the holes in Islam yet utterly unable to see similar holes in his own faith.

Didn't Sparky saying he worked/lived in Afghanistan? Or have I got him confused with someone else? Anyway, yes he also struck me as the missionary type.

There was a Christian Missionary who came to the CoEMB anniversary last year and spent a great deal of time telling us all how brave we were to leave Islam and then about Jesus. He was Dutch I think - and was really quite a sweet guy. lol
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Reply #10 - May 07, 2009, 08:17 PM

Quote from: Hassan on May 07, 2009, 07:30 PM
Didn't Sparky saying he worked/lived in Afghanistan? Or have I got him confused with someone else?guy. lol

No, I rememeber him saying something like that

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Reply #11 - May 07, 2009, 09:26 PM

I'd seen an interview with this guy in New Scientist some time ago so I was already familiar with his story. In fact we had a thread on it not long after this forum opened. I remember some of the Christians were quite pissed about it.

Anyway I thought it was amusing. He must have been totally blown out by the reactions of the Piraha. It would have made a great comedy if it had all been filmed.

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Reply #12 - May 27, 2009, 04:41 PM

I loved it when they said: "We like to drink, and have more then one women" seem like mind kind of folk!

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Reply #13 - June 23, 2009, 07:41 PM

Quote from: Hassan on May 07, 2009, 01:12 PM
A very interesting and moving real-life story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr3q6Cid1po

I woder if the BBC would also cover a topic: "Muslim missionary loses faith"...

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Reply #14 - August 07, 2011, 05:25 PM

BUMP!! Amazing video!

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Reply #15 - August 07, 2011, 07:50 PM

Yes, thanks for the video Hassan, an dthanks for the bump J&T

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