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  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #330 - May 20, 2009, 01:26 PM
    Still waiting for an answer- whether rayback understands and reads Arabic fluently.

    I will wait, and until then I will make productive use of my time and study for my exams.

  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #331 - May 20, 2009, 01:40 PM
    I know Arabic. But since this is a forum in English, I refrain from using any other language. I try my best to keep things in English to that everyone can understand. I only use Arabic when I log in to Arab forums. Its more easier to rip them in Arabic than in any other language.

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #332 - May 20, 2009, 01:56 PM
    Okay, so we have members of this forum that have read the Qur'an in Arabic and are aware of what is written in it. So how can you say they are ignorant about what is in it?
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #333 - May 20, 2009, 02:05 PM
    Reading and undertanding are two different things.

    I think that should much should be obvious to everyone.

    You can train a monkey to read Shakespeare, but I think you would still call the primate ignorant of its contents.

    Similiarly, most Atheists basic lack comprehension skills due to their low intellect and their clear bias against logic.

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #334 - May 20, 2009, 02:08 PM
    Quote from: Rayback
    Reading and undertanding are two different things.

    I think that should much should be obvious to everyone.

    You can train a monkey to read Shakespeare, but I think you would still call the primate ignorant of its contents.

    Similiarly, most Atheists basic lack comprehension skills due to their low intellect and their clear bias against logic.


    Stop trolling Rayback, or I will smite you.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #335 - May 20, 2009, 02:14 PM
    I predict a ban coming up.

    Banning people from talking is one of five Atheists great cop outs.

    Thats ok. I dont mind.

    If you dont want me here, just say so. I wont come.

    The lady asked me a question and I replied.

    She wanted to know how Arabic readers of the Quran can still be accused of not understanding its contents.

    I gave her my answer.

    Dont you think its up to her to read it and analyse it.


    I dont even know what this trolling is.

    Please do tell.

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #336 - May 20, 2009, 02:18 PM
    Read the forum rules

    Quote
    Trolling and other inflammatory behaviour.

    This can be hard to strictly define in words, but most people claim to be able to recognise it.
    If a staff member asks you to stop trolling, goading or whatever then please take their advice.
    It is ultimately up to the staff to decide what is and is not acceptable behaviour on this forum.
    If in doubt err on the side of reasonableness and politeness. It won't cause the end of the world.
    Also note that opening multiple accounts is considered trolling. No appeals will be entertained.


    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?page=12

    This is your last warning before we start handing out smites.  I think we've been very patient too, given that you're clearly wasting everybody's time with nonsense posts.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #337 - May 20, 2009, 02:39 PM
    Go ahead.

    Make me a martyr for freedom of speech, liberty and open unrestricted debate.

    You want to censor me.

    Fine.

    Take your sword and strike me down with your full hatred.

    I can feel the anger flow through you.

    In other thread, you wasted time with your pancake stories in the middle of important discussions.

    This is your Atheist house, do as you will.

    Go ahead, have one rule for believers, and have another for Atheists.

    Thats your way.

    Its an unjust way.

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #338 - May 20, 2009, 02:41 PM
    There's no anger or hatred, I'm just enforcing the rule against trolling.  In future, when someone asks you what it says in the Qur'an about Hell, give them quotes from the Qur'an with your interpretation of those quotes.  Do not give them stupid, goading comments about whether or not God is German. 
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #339 - May 20, 2009, 02:47 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on May 20, 2009, 02:41 PM
    There's no anger or hatred, I'm just enforcing the rule against trolling.  In future, when someone asks you what it says in the Qur'an about Hell, give them quotes from the Qur'an with your interpretation of those quotes.  Do not give them stupid, goading comments about whether or not God is German. 


    I will NOT follow your dictates.

    I am not your slave.

    I will reply as I see fit.

    It is up to the member, called heartbomb, to say whether my reply does or does not answers her question. Observers should keep their butts out. If she wants to continue then that right should not be denied her.

    But you want to me give only those replies which YOU like.

    Thats never going to happen. I think for myself.

    If you want to hear only the things you like to hear, then go to a shrink.

    I will speak my mind. If that hurts you, tough luck.

    If you dont like it, then shoot me. Ban me from this forum.

    I will live and speak a free man.

    You can take my head, but you wont take my soul.

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #340 - May 20, 2009, 02:49 PM
    OK - lets start again.  Tell us a bit about yourself, including what religion you believe in.
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  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #341 - May 20, 2009, 02:51 PM
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    I will NOT follow your dictates.

    I am not your slave.

    I will reply as I see fit.

    It is up to the member, called heartbomb, to say whether my reply does or does not answers her question. Observers should keep their butts out. If she wants to continue then that right should not be denied her.

    But you want to me give only those replies which YOU like.

    Its not going to happen. I think for myself.

    If you dont like it, then shoot me.

    You can take my head, but you wont take my soul.


    I couldn't care less, Rayback.  If you carry on breaking the rules, I'll carry on smiting you - its no skin off my nose either way.  And as I said, we have been more than patient with you and your refusal to answer questions sensibly or debate anything that's put to you so far.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #342 - May 20, 2009, 03:22 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 20, 2009, 02:05 PM
    Reading and undertanding are two different things.

    I think that should much should be obvious to everyone.

    You can train a monkey to read Shakespeare, but I think you would still call the primate ignorant of its contents.

    Similiarly, most Atheists basic lack comprehension skills due to their low intellect and their clear bias against logic.




    So Darwin had low intellect?

    What about Dawkins? He's got a PhD. (see Dawkins rap Cheesy) Those are just two educated Atheists I can think of, off the top of my head.

    I'm done with you, all you are doing is belittling people.

    You think banning is one of Atheists' common cop outs, I think belittling people is the common trait of religious people like yourself.

    I'm through with you, have a nice life in fairytale land.

    You are breaking forum rules by trolling, and I don't want to bother with a troll because I have exams to study for.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #343 - May 20, 2009, 03:24 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 20, 2009, 02:47 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on May 20, 2009, 02:41 PM
    There's no anger or hatred, I'm just enforcing the rule against trolling.  In future, when someone asks you what it says in the Qur'an about Hell, give them quotes from the Qur'an with your interpretation of those quotes.  Do not give them stupid, goading comments about whether or not God is German. 


    I will NOT follow your dictates.

    I am not your slave.

    I will reply as I see fit.

    It is up to the member, called heartbomb, to say whether my reply does or does not answers her question. Observers should keep their butts out. If she wants to continue then that right should not be denied her.

    But you want to me give only those replies which YOU like.

    Thats never going to happen. I think for myself.

    If you want to hear only the things you like to hear, then go to a shrink.

    I will speak my mind. If that hurts you, tough luck.

    If you dont like it, then shoot me. Ban me from this forum.

    I will live and speak a free man.

    You can take my head, but you wont take my soul.




    No, you haven't been answering my questions FIRST TIMe.

    Cheetah is right, you have been goading and were evasive. It took me about 10 attempts to get an answer out of you about whether or not you understand Arabic. Frankly, I still don't believe you.

    There have Muslim members of this forum that have NOT been banned, because they actually know the etiquette of debate, and are less evasive than you.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #344 - May 20, 2009, 03:29 PM
    Quote from: heartbomb on May 20, 2009, 03:22 PM

    So Darwin had low intellect?

    What about Dawkins?

    He's got a PhD.

    Those are just two educated Atheists I can think of, off the top of my head.


    Dawkins gets cornered by Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight on BBC2.

    PhD is not going to help you if you are thick.

    Also, a South Korean scientist with a PhD got caught fabricating research. He was one of world most renowed scientists.

    He falsified his lab work.

    Very intellectual move.

    I guess a PhD certificate impresses you.

     Wink
    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #345 - May 20, 2009, 03:32 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 20, 2009, 03:29 PM
    Quote from: heartbomb on May 20, 2009, 03:22 PM

    So Darwin had low intellect?

    What about Dawkins?

    He's got a PhD.

    Those are just two educated Atheists I can think of, off the top of my head.


    Dawkins gets cornered by Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight on BBC2.

    PhD is not going to help you if you are thick.

    Also, a South Korean scientist with a PhD got caught fabricating research. He was one of world most renowed scientists.

    He falsified his lab work.

    Very intellectual move.

    I guess a PhD certificate impresses you.

     Wink


    What about Stephen Hawking?

    It's not the PhD that impresses me, it's the fact that they have the ability to make rational decisions and JUSTIFY them.

    And please do give me a clip of this newsnight show, I don't believe anything you say unless you back it up.

    Anyway, last post to you...troll. You are on my ignore list...because you are wasting my time. Come back with some decent evidence, and I may be convinced. Truthful person never fears debates, my arse. You can't even debate properly!
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #346 - May 20, 2009, 03:40 PM
    Stephen Hawking?

    I like that dude.

    He is honest enough to admit when he does not know.

    Did you know that Hawkins does not reject the existence of God?

    Now thats a logical scientist who does not act like a fool.

    Dawkins on the other hands is a complete idiot.

    He can only handle children in a debate.

    He fears talking to adults. They keep grilling him with simple logic.

    He runs away all the time.

    His documentary on Channel 4 about Darwin was a classic example of stupid Atheist scientist. He only talked to chidlren and presesnted his monkey theory to them.

    He did not debate with one scientist who was his critic.

    Dick Dawkins is a sad and scared scientist.

     yes

    truthful person never fears debates: http://omrow.blogspot.com/
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #347 - May 20, 2009, 06:30 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 20, 2009, 02:14 PM
    I predict a ban coming up.

    Banning people from talking is one of five Atheists great cop outs.

    Thats ok. I dont mind.

    If you dont want me here, just say so. I wont come.

    The lady asked me a question and I replied.

    She wanted to know how Arabic readers of the Quran can still be accused of not understanding its contents.

    I gave her my answer.

    Dont you think its up to her to read it and analyse it.


    I dont even know what this trolling is.

    Please do tell.




    I used to be an active member of a Muslim forum. Somebody made a post in the anonymous advice section saying that they were having serious doubts about Islam and that they didn't have faith in Allah anymore. He or she was asking for a solution to his or her problem.

    The moderators gave their solution. Can you guess what they did? I'm sure you can. Come on, be honest.

    Looks like Muslims are guilty of employing the same great cop-out Smiley
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #348 - May 20, 2009, 06:37 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 20, 2009, 03:40 PM

    He is honest enough to admit when he does not know.

    Did you know that Hawkins does not reject the existence of God?

    Now thats a logical scientist who does not act like a fool.


    Why do I have a gut feeling that if you didn't believe anymore that the middle sentence was true, you would take that as evidence that the sentence before and after weren't true anymore either?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #349 - May 20, 2009, 06:38 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on May 19, 2009, 02:45 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 19, 2009, 02:22 PM
    That is another hijacking of the topic question.

    It belongs in another thread.




    It is very relevent to the debate, unless you don't want to consider the possibility that an atheist's or an agnostic's doubts in Islam may be justified.

    So, is what is moral commanded by God because it is moral, or is it moral because it is commanded by God?


    Please answer the question.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #350 - May 20, 2009, 07:33 PM
    Quote from: rayback on May 20, 2009, 03:40 PM
    Stephen Hawking?

    I like that dude.

    He is honest enough to admit when he does not know.

    Did you know that Hawkins does not reject the existence of God?

    Now thats a logical scientist who does not act like a fool.

    Dawkins on the other hands is a complete idiot.

    He can only handle children in a debate.

    He fears talking to adults. They keep grilling him with simple logic.

    He runs away all the time.

    His documentary on Channel 4 about Darwin was a classic example of stupid Atheist scientist. He only talked to chidlren and presesnted his monkey theory to them.

    He did not debate with one scientist who was his critic.

    Dick Dawkins is a sad and scared scientist.

     yes



    You just don't know what you're talking about and you haven't got the intellectual equipment to find out. You're a very, very silly man and a total control freak to boot.
    You cover a lot of paper and all you've done at the end of it is insult some one and you've said nothing of value. Have some of your own back and then I'm banishing you to ignore so I don't have to waste any more time on your bull crap.
    Religion is ignorance giftwrapped in lyricism.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #351 - May 20, 2009, 07:46 PM
    Quote from: sojournerlumus on May 20, 2009, 07:33 PM
    You just don't know what you're talking about and you haven't got the intellectual equipment to find out. You're a very, very silly man and a total control freak to boot.
    You cover a lot of paper and all you've done at the end of it is insult some one and you've said nothing of value. Have some of your own back and then I'm banishing you to ignore so I don't have to waste any more time on your bull crap.


    Well said, sojournerlumus - spot on  Afro (espc the control freak bit)
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #352 - May 20, 2009, 07:46 PM
    You heard about the new fossil they have found called Darwinius Masillae?

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090519-missing-link-found.html

    Hang on, let me reply for Rayback.

    "Uhm, look can you see the word "Darwin" in there? It's obvious that people who loved Darwin put a plastic fossil there and named it after himm. And you can't trust them; people who love Darwin only have brains that work 2.131% of the time."
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #353 - May 21, 2009, 02:24 AM
    Quote from: J4m3z on May 20, 2009, 07:46 PM
    You heard about the new fossil they have found called Darwinius Masillae?

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/05/090519-missing-link-found.html

    Hang on, let me reply for Rayback.

    "Uhm, look can you see the word "Darwin" in there? It's obvious that people who loved Darwin put a plastic fossil there and named it after himm. And you can't trust them; people who love Darwin only have brains that work 2.131% of the time."


     Cheesy
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #354 - May 25, 2009, 10:48 PM
    Waiting for replies to my questions from both Shaneequa and Rayback now, but Shaneequa has decided to put me on her ignore list, so I don't know whether she will see this post or whether it is just personal messages she doesn't receive.
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #355 - May 25, 2009, 10:50 PM
    Quote from: J4m3z on May 25, 2009, 10:48 PM
    Waiting for replies to my questions from both Shaneequa and Rayback now, but Shaneequa has decided to put me on her ignore list, so I don't know whether she will see this post or whether it is just personal messages she doesn't receive.


    Quoted for Shaneequa Wink
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #356 - May 25, 2009, 10:52 PM
     Smiley
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  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #357 - May 26, 2009, 12:21 AM
    I'm sorry Hassan, but he badgers and then doesn't listen. If that changes, I will take him back off ignore.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #358 - May 26, 2009, 12:24 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on May 26, 2009, 12:21 AM
    I'm sorry Hassan, but he badgers and then doesn't listen. If that changes, I will take him back off ignore.


    Shaneequa, rayback is banned, I don't know if you have a problem with anyone else.

    Anyway, I need to ask you a question about the 8th Commandment.  What do you understand this commandment to be instructing us to do?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Absurd Doubts
     Reply #359 - May 26, 2009, 03:57 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on May 26, 2009, 12:24 AM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on May 26, 2009, 12:21 AM
    I'm sorry Hassan, but he badgers and then doesn't listen. If that changes, I will take him back off ignore.


    Shaneequa, rayback is banned, I don't know if you have a problem with anyone else.

    Anyway, I need to ask you a question about the 8th Commandment.  What do you understand this commandment to be instructing us to do?


    I didn't know rayback very well, but if you banned him, I'm sure it is for a good reason. I liked him, but then again, I have not seen all his posts.

    I am in favour of all the commandments, and if I have broken any, please let me know. The first commandment is the hardest...but the eighth commandment is "Ex:20:15: Thou shalt not steal. " Sometimes I do that without meaning to....but it is still a sin. I try my best not to walk away with pens...and when I smoked, it was the same with lighters.

    There are some books I have not returned...

    Oh no....the more I think of it, the more I need to repent of the eighth commandment....and probably some some others as well... sad sad sad
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