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  • FUCK!
     OP - May 16, 2009, 03:21 PM

    Does any one know the origin of the notorious 4 letters word, fuck?
    Is it even English, or is it as this video says... German?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPlfDIcjrVI&feature=related

    Anyways, here is the first song it was used in, back in 1939! Which was very controversial then!

    Hear it from 1:00 onwards... The song is nice though, and funny! Enjoy!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbDKNHMDrEU


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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #1 - May 16, 2009, 03:27 PM

    This vid has the same audio as your first, but I think the animation is better and more entertaining  yes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hgsw5Hg0Ag

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #2 - May 16, 2009, 03:39 PM

     Cheesy Those are great vids.

    How many of you can swear openly in front of your parents?

    I always find it so surprising when my boyfriend swears in front of his parents...still not used to it.
  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #3 - May 16, 2009, 05:36 PM

    Cheesy Those are great vids.

    How many of you can swear openly in front of your parents?

    I always find it so surprising when my boyfriend swears in front of his parents...still not used to it.


    I can never swear infront of my parents! In fact I can never swear infront of anyone! wacko

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #4 - May 16, 2009, 05:39 PM

    I dont like swearing either, but dont mind if people choose to.  Its just that there are so many words to choose from.  Particularly those who are unable to formulate a sentence without swearing in it 3 or 4 times - thats just naff.

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #5 - May 16, 2009, 06:24 PM

    It most probably has anglo-saxon origins. In an anglo-saxon charter dated 772, there was a place in England called Fuccerham. I.e. The home (ham) of the fucker or fuckers. There are similar words in other Germanic languages; "Ficken" in German, "Fokken" in Dutch, "Fukka" in Norwegian, and "Fokka" in swedish, all meaning more or less the same thing.

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #6 - May 16, 2009, 06:52 PM

    The OED has fuck as '16th century, origins unknown' and the meaning as the one we all know and love to do.

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #7 - May 16, 2009, 06:58 PM

    Cheesy Those are great vids.

    How many of you can swear openly in front of your parents?

    I always find it so surprising when my boyfriend swears in front of his parents...still not used to it.


    I can't swear infront of them, lol this clip from russell peters is exactly like my first introduction to kids who swear at their parents:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jWaosnKDNM

     Cheesy


    I have accidentally sworn infront of them before, fortunately I was too grown up to get a smack.

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #8 - May 16, 2009, 07:05 PM

    My parents swear in front of me a lot more than I do them. Even on the odd occasion that I do, I only use only B-list words like bloody or damn, Never "suck my dick" or fuck you bitch". Of  course if someone stubs their toe then all rules are off.

    I was shocked myself when I first met my wife's family. All the kids were swearing like truck drivers and their immigrant mother either didn't understand the words or didn't understand the social conotations of their use, because she didn't seem to be bothered at all.


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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #9 - May 16, 2009, 07:07 PM

    My parents swear in front of me a lot more than I do them. Even on the odd occasion that I do, I only use only B-list words like bloody or damn, Never "suck my dick" or fuck you bitch". Of  course if someone stubs their toe then all rules are off.

    I was shocked myself when I first met my wife's family. All the kids were swearing like truck drivers and their immigrant mother either didn't understand the words or didn't understand the social conotations of their use, because she didn't seem to be bothered at all.




    Or she just didn't give a fuck!

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #10 - May 16, 2009, 07:15 PM



    Or she just didn't give a fuck!

    [/quote]

    Oh she gave a fuck. She just didn't have a fuckin clue.

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #11 - May 16, 2009, 07:26 PM

    It most probably has anglo-saxon origins. In an anglo-saxon charter dated 772, there was a place in England called Fuccerham. I.e. The home (ham) of the fucker or fuckers. There are similar words in other Germanic languages; "Ficken" in German, "Fokken" in Dutch, "Fukka" in Norwegian, and "Fokka" in swedish, all meaning more or less the same thing.


    I am not familiar with these languages, but... Ficken... Fokken... Fukka... and Fokka... sure sound similar! Tongue

    Interesting! Thanks for the info!

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #12 - May 16, 2009, 07:28 PM

    What a brilliant thread idea.   yes  Why have we never discussed this important topic before?

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #13 - May 16, 2009, 08:28 PM

    What gets me is how some people react to swearing, particularly if English is not their first language. If you say "duck" nobody gives a duck. If you say "truck" nobody gives a lorry either. As soon as you say "fuck" though they're all red in the face and full of apoplexy, as if you've just offered them a virgin goat or something. Humans are funny.

    Then you have people who learn English as a second language. This means they aren't culturally programmed from birth to react to English swear words. Bob's mum-in-law is a good example. She's blissfully unaware that she is supposed to be offended. Before someone like that can choose to be suitably offended they first have to learn which words they are going to be offended by, then they have to learn the meanings and connotations of those words, then they have to make a (usually unconscious, I suspect) decision to be offended. After that they can merrily join the ranks of the upholders of decency and react with shock and horror whenever they like. It all seems a bit daft, quite frankly.

    I dont like swearing either, but dont mind if people choose to.  Its just that there are so many words to choose from.  Particularly those who are unable to formulate a sentence without swearing in it 3 or 4 times - thats just naff.

    I agree up to a point. I'm all in favour of judicious, or sometimes injudicious, use of expletives as sometimes they are just the best words for the job. Overuse of them is rather boring though. I remember when I was working in Queensland years ago and the blokes in that factory were passionately in love with fuck and its derivatives. They'd use it everywhere. Instead of saying "umm" or "errrr" when they were tying to think of the next bit they'd use "fuknnnnnnnnnnn". Seriously. Everything was fucked. Everyone was a fucker, or a fucking fucker who was fucked and therefore fucking things up which was, need I mention it, fucked. I found myself thinking one day that it'd be fun to rock into work one day and do complete conversations using absolutely nothing except fuck and its derivatives combined with suitable delivery and phrasing for the purpose at hand. They totally would have missed the point.  whistling2

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #14 - May 16, 2009, 08:30 PM

    It most probably has anglo-saxon origins. In an anglo-saxon charter dated 772, there was a place in England called Fuccerham. I.e. The home (ham) of the fucker or fuckers. There are similar words in other Germanic languages; "Ficken" in German, "Fokken" in Dutch, "Fukka" in Norwegian, and "Fokka" in swedish, all meaning more or less the same thing.


    I am not familiar with these languages, but... Ficken... Fokken... Fukka... and Fokka... sure sound similar! Tongue

    Interesting! Thanks for the info!


    There is quite an interesting theory about why the words Fuck, Shit and Cunt are considered to be rude, offensive swearwords. It is because after the Norman Conquest, in official use, the Old English language was displaced by the Norman language and Old English was considered vulgar. These words, which might have been perfectly normal words before, were now considered vulgar, hence becoming swear words.

    This is only a theory, mind.

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #15 - May 16, 2009, 08:50 PM

    It doesn't account for all the Anglo-Saxon words that aren't considered offensive. I'm sure there must be several of them as Norman French was only spoken by a minority.

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  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #16 - May 16, 2009, 08:53 PM

    It doesn't account for all the Anglo-Saxon words that aren't considered offensive. I'm sure there must be several of them as Norman French was only spoken by a minority.


    As I said, it is only a theory (not my theory!), but quite interesting nonetheless. I can see why these words as opposed to the saxon word for "chair" or "cloud" became offensive, rude words. Apparently shakespeare used the word cunt once, but I can't find it anywhere. Anyone know?

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: FUCK!
     Reply #17 - May 17, 2009, 07:08 AM

    .... Apparently shakespeare used the word cunt once, but I can't find it anywhere. Anyone know?...


    Yes U R right, I read that somewhere, but sorry, I cunt remember where!  Cheesy

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