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  • Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     OP - May 25, 2009, 08:04 PM

    Indonesia and the polygamy stir-fry: why men need more than one wife

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    Puspo Wardoyo is a contented man. He has four wives, 10 children and 34 grilled chicken restaurants. Chicken Indonesians, he believes, should embrace his example.

    Mr Puspo is campaigning to make polygamy respectable in Indonesia, where it was suppressed for decades under the former dictator, Suharto. Now it is enjoying a renaissance, thanks in part to Mr Puspo's energetic efforts to promote it as a desirable way of life.

    The portly 48-year-old extols the virtues of taking a second wife, preferably four. In his Ayam Bakar Wong Solo restaurants, he preaches the message through his menu, which offers polygamy stir-fry (broccoli, mushrooms, squid and shrimp) and polygamy juice, a medley of four crushed fruits.

    Mr Puspo has founded a National Polygamy Society, which compiles lists of women willing to share a husband. He offers tips to polygamists, counselling them to eat plenty of fresh fruit to maintain stamina and to refrain from complimenting one wife in front of another.

    Last year he held a Polygamy award ceremony at a five-star Jakarta hotel, which was picketed by women's groups. "I want to change the image of polygamy," he said. "Before I started my campaign, it was a taboo subject. Now everyone is talking about it, and it's out in the open."

    His own decision to adopt the ancient Islamic custom was taken jointly with his first wife, Rini Purwanti, whom he married in 1979. As his restaurant chain spreadacross the archipelago, he found himself often away on business. He needed to satisfy his physical urges at least once a week, but rather than visit a prostitute, the couple agreed that he should take a second wife.

    His prime motivation, Mr Puspo added, was to follow the teachings of the Koran. Thus did he marry 22-year-old Supianti in 1996, followed by Anisa, 22, two years later and Intan, 24, in 2000. The trio all worked in his chicken outlets and were selected via a competition for outstanding staff.

    Pictures of his four wives adorn the walls of his restaurants, which he built into a nationwide chain from a warung (food stall) in his native city of Medan, on Sumatra island.

    Mr Puspo drives a red sports car with the number plate 4BINI, which means "four wives" in Javanese dialect. How can it possibly accommodate five adults, not to mention 10 children - Anis, 23, Ringin, 22, Rimbi, 21, Gena, 16, Bakar, 10, Abu, eight, Sidik, four, Rahil, three, Zaharol, two, and baby Sabik? "When we're together, I drive a bus," he said.

    Two of his wives live in Sumatra, one in Jakarta and one in Java. When he travels, they take turns to accompany him.

    Mr Puspo laments that polgyamy gets a bad press. "People think the wives are victims," he said. "But look at my wives, they're all happy. They have a beautiful houses, good cars. They know I love them all equally. Women's groups protest about me, but we have the same mission: to improve the dignity of women." His secretary, Kuringin Purbo Wardani, describes all four of his wives as "quiet".

    Mr Puspo says satisfying their physical demands is not a problem. "There's variety and time intervals. It makes me more motivated as a man. Only one wife makes me bored. All men are like that."

    Dining in the East Jakarta branch of Wong Solo, which has Javanese furniture and lime-green walls, Sofie Yulianti, 44, said that she agreed with polygamy. How would she feel if her husband of 20 years, Yusmar Mansur, took a second wife? She chortled. "As long as he's happy."

    There are no reliable estimates of the number of polygamous men in mainly Muslim Indonesia. Mr Puspo says he has made many converts. His campaign has been boosted by high-profile polygamists, including the Vice-President, Hamzah Haz, who took a third wife last year.


    His family life is certainly interesting party!

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #1 - May 26, 2009, 11:57 AM

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    Only one wife makes me bored. All men are like that.

    You what?! No they are not! There are many who would be content with one wife and there are many women who would prefer he had one wife. How would he like it if his wives wanted another 3 husbands? I cant stand the double standards of polygamists!

    I hate it when people like him think everyone else should take up this lifestyle. How about we all think about the women victims for once? And the fact that Islam does not give the wife a choice in the matter! Asshole! finmad

    I fucking hate polygamy.
  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #2 - May 26, 2009, 03:48 PM

    I have not got a problem with polygamy. But if a man wants more than one wife, he should be prepared for his wife wanting more than one husband.

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #3 - May 26, 2009, 04:01 PM

    I have not got a problem with polygamy. But if a man wants more than one wife, he should be prepared for his wife wanting more than one husband.


    But how can you LOVE more than 1 person?
    Liking someone is different than loving someone...

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #4 - May 26, 2009, 04:07 PM

    But how can you LOVE more than 1 person?

    Thats possible - we can love more than one person, in a sexual context or not.  Monogamy is something that does not come naturally, particularly in the case of men.

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #5 - May 26, 2009, 04:11 PM

    But how can you LOVE more than 1 person?

    Thats possible - we can love more than one person, in a sexual context or not.  Monogamy is something that does not come naturally, particularly in the case of men.


    I don't know, still feels a bit odd in my opinion...

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #6 - May 26, 2009, 05:08 PM

    This one is from Indonesia's neighbour Malaysia! dance

    Women should accept polygamy, Malaysian lawmaker says
     
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    KUALA LUMPUR - A MALAYSIAN lawmaker told parliament that there would be fewer marital problems and a lower divorce rate if Muslim women were taught to accept polygamy, news reports said.

    Ibrahim Ali, an independent parliamentarian, proposed moves to address the issue in response to complaints that women were always blamed for marital issues.

    'Such problems happen because women cannot accept polygamy. From a preventive point of view, what about doing a big campaign so that women can accept polygamy?' Mr Ibrahim was quoted saying in the Star daily.

    The ethnic Malay Muslim lawmaker said women who are pregnant or who have 'problems' when they hit their fifties do not understand that men still want to 'have fun'.

    Ms Fuziah Salleh, an opposition lawmaker, had earlier questioned the qualifications of Islamic sharia court counsellors as she had received complaints from women that they were forced to take the blame for most marital problems.

    'They are not counselled but given 'advice'. And every time, they are told that the woman is to be blamed. If it is a family problem, they must be patient. If they are beaten up, they must also be patient,' she said.

    Muslim men in Malaysia are allowed up to four wives. Activists and women's groups say polygamy is cruel and has deviated from its original purpose in Islam, which was to protect widows and orphans.

    Islam is the official religion of Malaysia, where more than 60 per cent of its 27 million people are Muslim Malays. Polygamy is illegal for non-Muslims.















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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #7 - May 26, 2009, 05:26 PM

    Sometimes I ask myself if people like that are REALLY serious...
    Can't believe that people like this rule a country... -_-

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #8 - May 27, 2009, 09:09 AM

    Sometimes I ask myself if people like that are REALLY serious...
    Can't believe that people like this rule a country... -_-


    If people accept this bulls***, it will be preached. Tongue

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #9 - May 27, 2009, 09:17 AM

    But how can you LOVE more than 1 person?

    Thats possible - we can love more than one person, in a sexual context or not.  Monogamy is something that does not come naturally, particularly in the case of men.

    Of course it's natural, there are many men who prefer to be monogamous and human history is fully of monogamous couples. Of course there will always be people deviate from the norm but that is not to say this deviation is actually the norm. I'm not a fan of polygamy but I do wish they would stop being so damn hypocritical about it.
  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #10 - May 27, 2009, 11:39 AM

    I'm in Indonesia right now, and the fried chicken is great!  Afro


    anyway... My girl's mother is a second wife, and she would kill me if I ever tried to do the same.  There is, with the rise of "islamisation" lately a rise in polygamy, Ironically there is also now a rise in divorce! Seems most javanese women dont really like the arrangment.





    ps. Her uncle just bought me beer  dance

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #11 - May 27, 2009, 11:55 AM

    Of course it's natural, there are many men who prefer to be monogamous and human history is fully of monogamous couples. Of course there will always be people deviate from the norm but that is not to say this deviation is actually the norm. I'm not a fan of polygamy but I do wish they would stop being so damn hypocritical about it.

    Its not natural, its just the most sensible arrangement, particularly with regards to raising children.  In parts of Africa, untouched by modern culture, you will find men & women moving from one partner to the next, even after having children. 

    Even with religious brainwashing over centuries, the concept of marriage is in the decline in Western Europe.  1 in 3 marriages in the UK end in divource, 1 in 2 in the USA.

    Not that I disagree with the concept, but the vast majority of nature does not practice monogamy, so what makes you believe it is perfectly "natural"?

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #12 - June 01, 2009, 12:10 PM

    Its not natural, its just the most sensible arrangement, particularly with regards to raising children.  In parts of Africa, untouched by modern culture, you will find men & women moving from one partner to the next, even after having children. 

    Even with religious brainwashing over centuries, the concept of marriage is in the decline in Western Europe.  1 in 3 marriages in the UK end in divource, 1 in 2 in the USA.

    Not that I disagree with the concept, but the vast majority of nature does not practice monogamy, so what makes you believe it is perfectly "natural"?

    Why does what the vast majority of nature practice have anything to do with what's natural? We're not vast majority of nature, every species have their own norms and ours is monogamy. Evolutionary norms rise through what is the most advantageous. You just said it is the most sensible arrangement, that's why humans tend to be monogamous as it was evolutionary beneficial for us. For other creatures it may be more beneficial to polygamous/androus.

    Also all creatures have the potential to deviate from the norm. Those Africans may be untouched by modern culture but they are not untouched by their own culture, their practices are being passed down to their kids and as a result they do the same. There are many other cultures untouched by us who also practice monogamy. There are the beaudians who practised polyandry. There are swingers, etc.

    It's not fair to call polyandry 'natural' as everything is natural whether it be any of the examples I stated above. It is all up to the individual what they prefer. I prefer monogamy, I couldn't live in a polygamous relationship and as a result I will look for a monogamous partner.

    Divorces are the sign of a country who will not put up with rubbish in a relationship.

    (I'm not sure how you are defining polygamy/andry. My definition is having more than one partner at the same time, not moving from one partner to another. That is monogamy as you stay with a single partner).
  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #13 - June 01, 2009, 06:36 PM

    Its not natural, its just the most sensible arrangement, particularly with regards to raising children.  In parts of Africa, untouched by modern culture, you will find men & women moving from one partner to the next, even after having children. 

    Even with religious brainwashing over centuries, the concept of marriage is in the decline in Western Europe.  1 in 3 marriages in the UK end in divource, 1 in 2 in the USA.

    Not that I disagree with the concept, but the vast majority of nature does not practice monogamy, so what makes you believe it is perfectly "natural"?


    I do half agree with you. Monogamy is not necessarily natural, but because of the benefits of it, it has become the natural thing to do for most humans.

    The answer of whether it is natural may lie in the size of our manhoods! If you look at our closest relatives, they are by no means monogamous. Male Gorillas live with a harem of up to 10 females. A Gorillas penis is only an inch and a half, because Gorillas do not need to compete.  Chimpanzee females are serially promiscuous, and chimpanzee males have massive testicles, and although they are a lot smaller than Gorillas, their penis' are twice the size, because it is a sperm war and they need to compete for females. Although many females may disagree, at between 5 and 7 inches, humans are massively well endowed for apes, both in proportion to body size and in absolute terms. This suggests that we had to seriously compete. Scientists believe that in our early history, our sexual behaviour was more like bonobos than our sexual behaviour today.

    But, as Cheetah pointed out, monogamy has worked out as a sensible norm. Monogamy is a sensible social behaviour, but it is not genetic.

    And, there are actually a surprising number of animals which are monogamous. About 90 % of birds and 7% of mammals are monogamous.

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #14 - June 01, 2009, 07:02 PM

    Polygamy doesn't make sense as a model for any society, for the simple reason that women just don't outnumber men by 4 to 1 so there are never enough women to go around.  Therefore, if one man has four wives, three other men have no wife.  In practise this leads to the men higher up the social scale monopolising most of the available women, with the rest of the men being left with, to use a male chauvinist term, the "leftovers." 

    This has bad implications both for the gene pool, and the social fabric of the country.  Saudi Arabia is a prime example - I often wonder how much of the religious extremism there is due to sheer sexual frustration among the male population.

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #15 - June 01, 2009, 07:09 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwHqad5Aqzo

    The relevant part starts at 00:27

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #16 - June 01, 2009, 08:53 PM

    Polygamy doesn't make sense as a model for any society, for the simple reason that women just don't outnumber men by 4 to 1 so there are never enough women to go around.  Therefore, if one man has four wives, three other men have no wife.  In practise this leads to the men higher up the social scale monopolising most of the available women, with the rest of the men being left with, to use a male chauvinist term, the "leftovers." 

    This has bad implications both for the gene pool, and the social fabric of the country.  Saudi Arabia is a prime example - I often wonder how much of the religious extremism there is due to sheer sexual frustration among the male population.

    The fallacy in your argument is equating polygamy to only a specific instance of polygamy.
    If anyone regardless of gender was socially allowed to have as many partners as he/she wanted... there would be no inherent gender imbalance within the system.

    In a sense, a lot of humanity is already polygamous: http://www.google.com/search?q=non-paternity+rate
    Socially, most cultures try to act monogamous, but on practical terms a lot of individuals do not. Or you could never explain such a high incidence of wrongly assigned paternities in supposedly monogamous cultures.

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #17 - June 01, 2009, 08:54 PM

    Polygamy doesn't make sense as a model for any society, for the simple reason that women just don't outnumber men by 4 to 1 so there are never enough women to go around.  Therefore, if one man has four wives, three other men have no wife.  In practise this leads to the men higher up the social scale monopolising most of the available women, with the rest of the men being left with, to use a male chauvinist term, the "leftovers." 

    This has bad implications both for the gene pool, and the social fabric of the country.  Saudi Arabia is a prime example - I often wonder how much of the religious extremism there is due to sheer sexual frustration among the male population.

    Ah but Ah, you're forgetting the eternal power of natural selection! It could be that the 'leftovers' in their own quiet and unassuming way might be just that, and breed on and on and on....

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #18 - June 02, 2009, 08:27 AM

    In a sense, a lot of humanity is already polygamous:
    Socially, most cultures try to act monogamous, but on practical terms a lot of individuals do not. Or you could never explain such a high incidence of wrongly assigned paternities in supposedly monogamous cultures.

    How are you defining polygamy? I define it as having more then one partner at the same time, not several single partners over a life time.
  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #19 - June 06, 2009, 06:27 PM

    I have to say that I agree with aliadiere's opinion that there is no problem with polygamy as long as polyandry is allowed as well & the consent of the first wife\first husband is mandatory. If a society permits gay marriage, decriminalizes adultery & allows open marriage & no fault divorce, its not right to ban consenting polygamy between two sane adults. Marriage laws isn't about what I like but about the freedom of all people to do as they like as long as its harmless. Someone might hate gays, that doesn't give them the right to outlaw gay marriage, likewise just because I'd hate to share my wife\husband with someone else doesn't give me the right to insist that other consenting adults desist from doing so.

    These men present polygamy the wrong way! Had they said, like Bernard Shaw did, "Polygamy when tried under modern democratic conditions is ruined by the revolt of the mass of inferior men who are reduced to celibacy by it, for the maternal instinct leads a woman to prefer a tenth share of a first rate man than complete possession of a third," it'd seem like they're upholding polygamy for women!

    I can imagine quite a few American women would happily become Bill Gates' 5th wife rather than a plumber's first wife!  Wink

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #20 - June 06, 2009, 10:02 PM

    I have to say that I agree with aliadiere's opinion that there is no problem with polygamy as long as polyandry is allowed as well & the consent of the first wife\first husband is mandatory.

    The problem I have with that is what if they are coerced in to it? What if their husband/wife threatens their partner with a divorce unless the partner will settle for a polymarriage? I can see a lot of potential for abuse. Also imagine the jealousy.

    If this does ever become legal it needs to be signed into the marriage contract whether or not a polymarriage is permitted. This will reduce the chances of abuse.
  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #21 - June 06, 2009, 10:06 PM

    The problem I have with that is what if they are coerced in to it? What if their husband/wife threatens their partner with a divorce unless the partner will settle for a polymarriage? I can see a lot of potential for abuse. Also imagine the jealousy.

    If this does ever become legal it needs to be signed into the marriage contract whether or not a polymarriage is permitted. This will reduce the chances of abuse.


    Jealousy is not really a valid reason, at least in legal matters.

    I agree about a pre nuptial agreement regarding future polymarriage, as it happens rich billionaires sign pre nuptial agreements regarding  alimony, this can be similarly done. Even with a contract, I can see women lining up to wed Bill Gates!  yes

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #22 - June 07, 2009, 07:13 PM

    Jealousy is not really a valid reason, at least in legal matters.

    I agree about a pre nuptial agreement regarding future polymarriage, as it happens rich billionaires sign pre nuptial agreements regarding  alimony, this can be similarly done. Even with a contract, I can see women lining up to wed Bill Gates!  yes


    Would you consider it?
  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #23 - June 07, 2009, 07:17 PM

    Would you consider it?



    At the moment, marriage at my age & polymarriage both remain illegal, so its not possible, but I don't think I would consider it even if it were.

    I think I'm smart enough to earn loads of money on my own  queen_not_drag, but if I was really broke, or had failed in making any significant money on my own after years of trying, I might.  Wink

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #24 - June 07, 2009, 07:47 PM

    At the moment, marriage at my age & polymarriage both remain illegal, so its not possible, but I don't think I would consider it even if it were.

    I think I'm smart enough to earn loads of money on my own  queen_not_drag, but if I was really broke, or had failed in making any significant money on my own after years of trying, I might.  Wink

    You'd have sex with someone because of his money  Huh?

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #25 - June 07, 2009, 08:58 PM

    You'd have sex with someone because of his money  Huh?


    Why not? I'd marry a woman if she had loads of money!

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #26 - June 07, 2009, 09:47 PM

    Why not? I'd marry a woman if she had loads of money!

    Really?

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #27 - June 07, 2009, 09:54 PM

    Really?


    yeah, it would make sense. Obviously she would have to be willing to marry me as well, but if it makes it less likely that I would struggle financially, I would.

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #28 - June 07, 2009, 11:15 PM

    yeah, it would make sense. Obviously she would have to be willing to marry me as well, but if it makes it less likely that I would struggle financially, I would.

    Even if you did not fancy nor respect her?  However you would put up for that for the rest of your life, in order to share her money?

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  • Re: Indonesian Polygamist Owner of Successful Restaurant Chain!
     Reply #29 - June 08, 2009, 05:07 AM

    You'd have sex with someone because of his money  Huh?


    Not have casual sex with someone because of his money, I'm not a hooker & I'll never accept being one, whatever the circumstances!

    Marriage is somewhat different, but I probably won't marry someone only because of his money.


    Even if you did not fancy nor respect her?  However you would put up for that for the rest of your life, in order to share her money?


    For me, obviously it would be a him, I'm straight. I hope to fancy him, I wouldn't marry someone I found repulsive, but if I'm very broke, I'd settle for someone who I found tolerable, he needn't neccessarily be a  Phwoar

    As for respect, well I wouldn't be marrying someone I disrespect either, I wouldn't marry Hitler or Laden even if they had potloads of money  king, not even George Bush, but I again needn't respect him most in the world in order to marry him.

    Of course, all these are for dire circumstances, in general,I wouldn't do such stuff. I don't rule out these options in case I'm very poor & a billionaire proposes marriage!  Wink

    You know why I appear as centre right & conservative in  quizzes like the one you  posted? One reason of course is my attitude to Islam, the other is my vision of the perfect life for myself- I'd like to marry some richie rich man & have loads of kids!  Smiley

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