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 Topic: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.

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  • All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     OP - May 26, 2009, 07:24 PM
    It is often said that the God in christianity and Islam is merciful, and Gods love is unconditional.

    If thats true, if Gods love is unconditional, then that should mean that God loves us no matter what...its unconditional.

    Why then, if i piss God off, do i get tortured and punished by God, just for not talking to him or not answering his calls so to speak?

    In a human sense, it seems our unconditional love surpasses Gods, in that those we love unconditionally and those we have mercy on we would never allow them to burn in agony forever.

    I mean imagine, your own child pisses you off, never calls you or anything...hates you even...would you punish them in eternal hellfire?

    This is sick shit, these books should be taken off the shelves.
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #1 - May 26, 2009, 07:30 PM
    If god exists he is our greatest enemy.
    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #2 - May 26, 2009, 07:36 PM
    There are people who love their children even after those kids have done horrible things like try to kill their own parents. THAT"S unconditional/

    Also a human can love another so much that they actually sacrifice their lives for another. I am talking REAL sacrifice, not New Testiment trickery.
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #3 - May 26, 2009, 07:44 PM
    It seems to me like Gods not a very understanding type..well the God in the books anyway.

    I have met many people who have more mercy in their little bones than the Abrahamic God.

    There are often very good reasons why people do the things they do in life, and real unconditional love sees this and would never judge and punish in such harsh 'eternal' ways.

     



  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #4 - May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #5 - May 26, 2009, 10:08 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other

    I agree with you there, his love is unconditional, towards ex-Muslims and Muslims.   He gives you as much luck in life as he has granted to me.  That  in itself a travesty for you believers, despite having sacrificied a portion of your lives for him.
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  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #6 - May 26, 2009, 11:31 PM
    Quote from: Glen on May 26, 2009, 07:24 PM
    It is often said that the God in christianity and Islam is merciful, and Gods love is unconditional.

    If thats true, if Gods love is unconditional, then that should mean that God loves us no matter what...its unconditional.

    Why then, if i piss God off, do i get tortured and punished by God, just for not talking to him or not answering his calls so to speak?

    In a human sense, it seems our unconditional love surpasses Gods, in that those we love unconditionally and those we have mercy on we would never allow them to burn in agony forever.

    I mean imagine, your own child pisses you off, never calls you or anything...hates you even...would you punish them in eternal hellfire?

    This is sick shit, these books should be taken off the shelves.


    Indeed!

    The God who made Hell has no connection whatsoever with the qualities of Mercy, Love or Compassion.
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #7 - May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #8 - May 26, 2009, 11:35 PM
    Quote from: Submissive Bob on May 26, 2009, 07:36 PM
    There are people who love their children even after those kids have done horrible things like try to kill their own parents. THAT"S unconditional/

    Also a human can love another so much that they actually sacrifice their lives for another. I am talking REAL sacrifice, not New Testiment trickery.


    Most human beings have more compassion than God.

    I do not know anyone who would want even the worst criminal tortured for all eternity.
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #9 - May 26, 2009, 11:48 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    but god created everyone

    he should love everyone regardless of how he created them. it's his fault if they don't do good because obviously god created them that way and didn't make their needs met.
    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #10 - May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #11 - May 26, 2009, 11:54 PM
    Quote from: panoptic on May 26, 2009, 11:48 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    but god created everyone

    he should love everyone regardless of how he created them. it's his fault if they don't do good because obviously god created them that way and didn't make their needs met.


    doing good is a choice
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #12 - May 26, 2009, 11:55 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    he does not love atheists


    he is a weak god
    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #13 - May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #14 - May 27, 2009, 12:09 AM
    Quote from: panoptic on May 26, 2009, 11:48 PM

    but god created everyone

    he should love everyone regardless of how he created them. it's his fault if they don't do good because obviously god created them that way and didn't make their needs met.

    Not our fault - man is not "fit for purpose" - find out if we come with a return to base warranty
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  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #15 - May 27, 2009, 12:11 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    I do good to others - does God love me?

    Are you taking the piss, after all of them videos?  Get to the back of the line young man. 
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  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #16 - May 27, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?



    ofcourse if they believe "if it feels good, do it!".
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #17 - May 27, 2009, 06:38 AM
    Kope;

    You say God loves those that do good but you say he hates non-believers or as it says in the Quran 'un-believers' a word i find...silly.

    anyway, i know many a great 'un-believer' who are good, decent, honest and loving people who wouldnt hurt a fly and even when on the face of some people seem to do 'evil' i believe all people have a good side to them, or are largley a product of their environment and struggle to cope.

    All people suffer physical illness, its a part of life. All people also suffer mental illness too - if we were more open about this fact, took more care of each other the world would be a better place, i believe this would be much more effective than belief in Gods, banning porn, condemming people for the things they do, telling them rights and wrongs in which if they do wrong they will burn forever. Its barbaric.

  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #18 - May 27, 2009, 07:42 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 27, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?



    ofcourse if they believe "if it feels good, do it!".


    And would you torture them for the rest of their lives?

  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #19 - May 28, 2009, 12:01 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 27, 2009, 07:42 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 27, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?



    ofcourse if they believe "if it feels good, do it!".


    And would you torture them for the rest of their lives?





    let say you are commander in british army working in afghanistan and you find out terrorists planing to bomb london, would you bomb the cave?
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #20 - May 28, 2009, 12:07 AM
    Answer the question, please Kope.  Would you torture them for all eternity?
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #21 - May 28, 2009, 12:09 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 12:01 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 27, 2009, 07:42 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 27, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?



    ofcourse if they believe "if it feels good, do it!".


    And would you torture them for the rest of their lives?





    let say you are commander in british army working in afghanistan and you find out terrorists planing to bomb london, would you bomb the cave?


    No, let's answer the question. Would you torture your child for the rest of their life?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #22 - May 28, 2009, 12:16 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 12:01 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 27, 2009, 07:42 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 27, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?



    ofcourse if they believe "if it feels good, do it!".


    And would you torture them for the rest of their lives?





    let say you are commander in british army working in afghanistan and you find out terrorists planing to bomb london, would you bomb the cave?


    Answer the question please, Kope.  Would you torture your children for all eternity?

  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #23 - May 28, 2009, 11:57 AM
    Kope, By avoiding the question it looks evasive.  If it is the truth, you have no reason to be evasive. 

    Just in case it did not register :

    Would you torture your children for all eternity?
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  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #24 - May 28, 2009, 09:01 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 28, 2009, 12:16 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 12:01 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 27, 2009, 07:42 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 27, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?



    ofcourse if they believe "if it feels good, do it!".


    And would you torture them for the rest of their lives?





    let say you are commander in british army working in afghanistan and you find out terrorists planing to bomb london, would you bomb the cave?


    Answer the question please, Kope.  Would you torture your children for all eternity?





    let me answer for you, ofcourse british army commander would bomb terrorists and laugh knowing how painful they died even they didn't bombed london.

    but the different is god punish people who do evil to other humans
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #25 - May 28, 2009, 09:07 PM
    Answer the question Kope (we are talking about your children, not a British army commander)
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  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #26 - May 28, 2009, 09:17 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 09:01 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 28, 2009, 12:16 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 12:01 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 27, 2009, 07:42 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 27, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?



    ofcourse if they believe "if it feels good, do it!".


    And would you torture them for the rest of their lives?





    let say you are commander in british army working in afghanistan and you find out terrorists planing to bomb london, would you bomb the cave?


    Answer the question please, Kope.  Would you torture your children for all eternity?





    let me answer for you, ofcourse british army commander would bomb terrorists and laugh knowing how painful they died even they didn't bombed london.

    but the different is god punish people who do evil to other humans


    Kope would you burn your children in a fire - over and over again as they scream in agony?

    The reason you refuse to answer is because you know and I know - in fact everyone knows - that no parent would do such a thing to their children.

    Yet Allah will burn his creation for eternity. The creation he is supposed to love more than a mother loves her baby.

    Are humans better, more loving, more compassionate and more merciful than Allah?


  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #27 - May 28, 2009, 09:29 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 28, 2009, 09:17 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 09:01 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 28, 2009, 12:16 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 12:01 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 27, 2009, 07:42 AM
    Quote from: kope on May 27, 2009, 01:23 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:56 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 11:52 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on May 26, 2009, 11:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 26, 2009, 10:04 PM
    god's love is not unconditional, god's love those who do good to other


    I do good to others - does God love me?



    he does not love atheists


    Would you stop loving your children if they became atheists?



    ofcourse if they believe "if it feels good, do it!".


    And would you torture them for the rest of their lives?





    let say you are commander in british army working in afghanistan and you find out terrorists planing to bomb london, would you bomb the cave?


    Answer the question please, Kope.  Would you torture your children for all eternity?





    let me answer for you, ofcourse british army commander would bomb terrorists and laugh knowing how painful they died even they didn't bombed london.

    but the different is god punish people who do evil to other humans


    Kope would you burn your children in a fire - over and over again as they scream in agony?

    The reason you refuse to answer is because you know and I know - in fact everyone knows - that no parent would do such a thing to their children.

    Yet Allah will burn his creation for eternity. The creation he is supposed to love more than a mother loves her baby.

    Are humans better, more loving, more compassionate and more merciful than Allah?






    if humans can kill painfully than why cant god punish evil doer?
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love
     Reply #28 - May 28, 2009, 09:32 PM
    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 12:01 AM
    let say you are commander in british army working in afghanistan and you find out terrorists planing to bomb london, would you bomb the cave?


    Quote from: kope on May 28, 2009, 09:01 PM
    let me answer for you, ofcourse british army commander would bomb terrorists and laugh knowing how painful they died even they didn't bombed london.

    but the different is god punish people who do evil to other humans


    Just for the record, let me show you how this analogy does not work:

    1. If the British Army Commander was bombing the cave in revenge for planting a bomb in London, then I would call the British Army Commander evil and I think he would get along quite well with Allah.

    2. If the British Army Commander was bombing the cave because he had reason to believe that the terrorists were planning further bomb attacks around the world from the cave and also has reason to believe that it would be very dangerous to send in troops to take the terrorists as prisoners, then the Commander would probably bomb the cave for the sake of preventing further innocent lives from being killed by bomb attacks. But who exactly is Allah trying to protect by sending non-believers to hell to be tortured forever and ever?
    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: All praise be to the Humans, the most merciful with their unconditional love.
     Reply #29 - May 28, 2009, 09:49 PM
    The only thing you are protecting by not answering questions is the myth of Allah, and that you are doing to yourself. 

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