Hi, osmanthus.
Thanks for your post.
I think so.
Perhaps.
Ah. Veiled insults FTW. Thank you.
Not at all.
I am suggesting that profanity can (1) too often be the fallback when one's vocabulary is limited, and/or (2) is a verbal offensive, one that seeks to elevate the importance of one's own opinion over another's.
That is an opinion, not a fact. Like any other word in the language it has its uses.
The etymology of the word dates back to the 14th century stating another is fradulant, fake, insincere, false, even full of wickedness. Not used in polite or friendly discourse.
Language evolves, of course, and the use noncommittaly between friends/associates does occur in the vernacular in modern times.
However, this was not the use to which Hassan put it in his initial post, nor can the word be generally accepted as something indicatively "positive." As in "what cute little bullsh*t."
Again, an opinion, which you are perfectly entitled to and others are entitled not to share.
Sometimes. Not always, but even when it is used in that manner it may sometimes be warranted.
Of course there are. I never claimed otherwise.
Nice try, but no cigar. You see what you did here? You called my explanation bullshit and then tried to pretend that you hadn't really called my explanation bullshit. This makes you a/ a hypocrite perhaps somewhat less than entirely consistent when it comes to putting your professed position into practice and b/ dishonest seem to be not always painstakingly scrupulous in your attempts to ensure that your words are in strict accordance with objective truth.
Don't be so serious all the time.
Lighten up and have fun. I don't take myself so seriously, which this was to demonstrate. Sorry you took offense (paradoxically), but you missed both the humor and the point I was making by example.
Jesus! ( Ooops.)
See how it works? Nice, isn't it?
Depends from whose point of view. I was referring to a predominantly like-minded group talking casually among themselves, which does tend to happen here.
Yet, on the subject of Judaism, Hassan and I are not
"like-minded."Would you therefore suggest the use of "bullsh*t" or other profanity was appropriate or inappropriate?
How would you speak differently to those who are not
"like-minded"?
Your grandmother was entitled to her opinions. However given the subjectivity of "rudeness", which we're currently discussing by the way, and given that some people may feel that some points need to be made, then one could argue that at times there is a need to be rude.
When and why is rudeness to a fellow human being appropriate?
Another veiled insult. You should wear a heavier veil. Your face is showing.
Again, not at all.
You should not be so quick to assume offense.
I am sharing that I believe (rationally) that one who thinks of others before themselves or, at least, as equivalent to themselves (the "We") act and speak
with greater consideration of others than those who are singly focused on themselves (the "I").
Respectfully,
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