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 Topic: Muhammad & Germs!

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  • Muhammad & Germs!
     OP - June 07, 2009, 03:46 PM
    http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/001.sat.html

    Sunan Abu Dawud Book 1, Number 0067

    Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:

    I heard that the people asked the Prophet of Allah (peace_be_upon_him): Water is brought for you from the well of Buda'ah. It is a well in which dead dogs, menstrual clothes and excrement of people are thrown. The Messenger of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) replied: Verily water is pure and is not defiled by anything.


    The issue here is not hygiene, but rather a lack of scientific understanding of bacteria, viruses, and germs that can be present in water. Excrement is a very common cause of water becoming contaminated with Escherichia coli (E. coli), a bacteria commonly found in the colon that is deadly to humans if ingested. Water contaminated with dead dogs or menstrual fluids can be equally dangerous.

    So since Islam is supposed to be a scientific faith & Muhammad's behaviour is sunnah for all Muslims, others will have to drink such water as well?  vomit
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #1 - June 07, 2009, 04:54 PM
    At least the infidel will not get sick:
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    For them garments of fire shall be cut, and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water, whereby whatsoever is in their bellies and their skins shall be melted;

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #2 - June 07, 2009, 05:01 PM
    Interesting, so this is one circumstance where the infidel has a distinct advantage over the believer! Wink

    In any case, I don't expect Muhammad or the Quran to be scientifically accurate & ahead of its times, germ theory is a pretty modern discovery, but since Islam claims to be a super scientific faith, with its texts containing scientific miracles, it certainly shouldn't display this shocking ignorance of germs!  Insert evil laugh
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #3 - July 22, 2009, 05:36 AM
    Interesting, the number of trolls on this section which seems to be open for debate.

    I hope you realize some of abu dawood's ahadeeth are considered weak.
  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #4 - July 22, 2009, 07:02 AM
    All ahadith are weak when it is convenient for them to be weak. We know the drill.  Cheesy
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #5 - July 22, 2009, 07:29 AM
    Quote from: shadowq8 on July 22, 2009, 05:36 AM
    Interesting, the number of trolls on this section which seems to be open for debate.

    I hope you realize some of abu dawood's ahadeeth are considered weak.

    Do you consider Bukhari to be weak hadith - as I have some gems waiting for you!
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #6 - July 22, 2009, 08:54 AM
    Hey,the weak and false hadiths are very easy to catch with the eye.All the ones that makes you angry,and the ones that goes against common sence,or the ones with no mercy,are all false hadiths.

    This special hadith,everybody can hear that it is wrong,wrong,wrong.Muslims dont eat dead animals,do you think they drinkwater with dead ones in it,or period blood from womans,they so are so scared of a womans menstruation blood.

    This ones even you guys,can hear is  not a true hadith.The muslims would be dead long time ago,drinking "pure" water like this.
  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #7 - July 22, 2009, 09:00 AM
    What do you mean Muslims don't eat dead animals? Are you saying they only eat living animals?
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #8 - July 22, 2009, 09:29 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on July 22, 2009, 09:00 AM
    What do you mean Muslims don't eat dead animals? Are you saying they only eat living animals?


    Sorry,I meant they dont eat animals dead by themselves,and not water where dead animals are lying.The dog is inhadith considered not to be a clean being,to drink water with dead dogs in,is clearly a false hadith.An one of the riddicules found in those scriptures.
  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #9 - July 22, 2009, 09:35 AM
    Quote from: marleya on July 22, 2009, 08:54 AM
    Hey,the weak and false hadiths are very easy to catch with the eye.All the ones that makes you angry,and the ones that goes against common sence,or the ones with no mercy,are all false hadiths.

    So since a lot of Bukhari makes people angry, or goes against common sense or lacks mercy then by your argument we can conclude that a lot of the Sahih Bukhari are weak ahadith.  grin12

    Funnily enough a lot of Islamic scholars are going to disagree with you on that point. What makes you a greater scholar than them?
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #10 - July 22, 2009, 09:40 AM
    I am the future and they are the past.They let their culture and tradition,fight for power,be implemented in the religion,we will get reed of it,hopefully sooner than later.
  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #11 - July 22, 2009, 09:47 AM
    So is this innovation or isn't it?
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #12 - July 22, 2009, 10:06 AM
    Quote from: marleya on July 22, 2009, 08:54 AM
    Hey,the weak and false hadiths are very easy to catch with the eye.All the ones that makes you angry,and the ones that goes against common sence,or the ones with no mercy,are all false hadiths.

    With the same logic, can I scrap the Quran too? Since there are so many ayats that "make me angry" and that "go against common sense."
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #13 - July 22, 2009, 10:35 AM
    Good point. You forgot the "with no mercy" bit though. I could quote a stack of ayats that are lacking in mercy.
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #14 - July 22, 2009, 08:34 PM
    Quote from: Zaephon on July 22, 2009, 10:06 AM
    With the same logic, can I scrap the Quran too? Since there are so many ayats that "make me angry" and that "go against common sense."




    You can scrap the Quran,at least the trouble some parts,they belonged to a time we do not belong.Like the christians did with their bibel.

    I scrap anything that I have no knowledge about,all that I dont understand with my reason.God tell me in the Quran that he has given me a brain and understanding,and that I shall use it,when it comes to religious thinking.

    He say:"Know me,before you worship me"

    I dont stand as a defender of any evil thing that happens in the name of God or anyone that use the Quran to justify any killing or evilness Zaephon.
  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #15 - July 22, 2009, 09:15 PM
    The word of God is for all times Marleya.
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #16 - July 22, 2009, 10:17 PM
    Quote from: marleya on July 22, 2009, 08:34 PM


    You can scrap the Quran,at least the trouble some parts,they belonged to a time we do not belong.Like the christians did with their bibel.

    I scrap anything that I have no knowledge about,all that I dont understand with my reason.God tell me in the Quran that he has given me a brain and understanding,and that I shall use it,when it comes to religious thinking.

    He say:"Know me,before you worship me"

    I dont stand as a defender of any evil thing that happens in the name of God or anyone that use the Quran to justify any killing or evilness Zaephon.

    Marleya - if you are picking and choosing the bits you are going to follow i.e. the bits that make sense to you, then what basis do you have to know that it's true in the first place?  What makes you so sure that others have got it so wrong, and you have got it so right? 

    Before you wonder what my answer is to this question, I am an agnostic so, I accept the possibilty  in light of new evidence that I might be wrong
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #17 - July 22, 2009, 11:12 PM
    I definatly dont think that I am more right than anybody else Islame.I accept that we see things different,but I still belive,that we can come togheter and make things better.

    To belive in God or not,should not separate us,we share so much other things as fellow humans.

    But I am not more right than you Islame.

    It is sad you live so far away Islame,I would love to chat with you.I like your thoughts.

  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #18 - July 22, 2009, 11:13 PM
    Distance is no issue, we can chat here or via pm's if you like..
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #19 - July 22, 2009, 11:44 PM
    Quote from: marleya on July 22, 2009, 11:12 PM
    ...I still belive,that we can come togheter and make things better.

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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #20 - July 23, 2009, 12:48 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on July 22, 2009, 07:02 AM
    All ahadith are weak when it is convenient for them to be weak. We know the drill.  Cheesy


    Tell me about it!

    I remember talking with one Muslim from a moderate Muslim organization (I despised moderate Muslim organizations as a Muslim) who argued that music in Islam was halaal. I provided them a Saheeh hadeeth from either Bukhari or Muslim, can't remember which and she goes "Do you realize there are some Muslim/Bukhari hadeeths that are not as authentic as others?" I couldn't believe what I was hearing. She was correct ofcourse, you could get a hadeeth that is backed up by BOTH Muslim AND Bukhari which would be formidable, but any Saheeh hadeeth is authentic...

    She would have used a Muslim/Bukhari hadeeth to argue for one of her other beliefs anyday... whistling2
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #21 - July 23, 2009, 12:51 AM
    Quote from: marleya on July 22, 2009, 08:54 AM
    Hey,the weak and false hadiths are very easy to catch with the eye.All the ones that makes you angry,and the ones that goes against common sence,or the ones with no mercy,are all false hadiths.

    This special hadith,everybody can hear that it is wrong,wrong,wrong.Muslims dont eat dead animals,do you think they drinkwater with dead ones in it,or period blood from womans,they so are so scared of a womans menstruation blood.

    This ones even you guys,can hear is  not a true hadith.The muslims would be dead long time ago,drinking "pure" water like this.



    Wtf, I was wondering why everyone was replying to this post seriously I thought it was supposed to be sarcastic!  mysmilie_977
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #22 - July 23, 2009, 12:56 AM
    Actually, I get it now! It would explain why that girl I spoke to thought the Saheeh hadeeth forbidding musical instruments wasn't authentic. It's because music is halaal and therefore the hadeeth is wrong!  grin12

    No, wait...
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #23 - July 23, 2009, 12:59 AM
    popcorn
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #24 - July 23, 2009, 06:53 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on July 22, 2009, 11:44 PM
    Simultaneous orgasms FTW. parrot


     Lmao
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #25 - July 23, 2009, 09:00 AM
    I wonder what the Beatles song that says come together, right now, over me really means?  Huh?

    Osman? any clue?
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #26 - July 23, 2009, 09:13 AM
    It's a song about bukake. Yoko brought some strange habits with her.  cool2
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #27 - July 23, 2009, 09:56 AM
    This might sound like I am innocent, but I am not! However, I have never heard of the word Bukake..... Until now that is!!! Had to google it and boy was I for a surprise!! LOL

    Here is what I got:

    * Semen Play Bukkake: Where many men ejaculate on the woman's face, after which she plays with the semen. Also the men may ejaculate on the woman's food and she proceeds to eat the food with the ejaculate.

    After reading this, the first thing that came to my mind was Berberella's Date!! I don't know why! Maybe the Food and the Sex? As they have been mentioned zillions of times in that Dating advice thread?

    Sorry Berbs I was only joking! LOL
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #28 - July 23, 2009, 10:03 AM
    How can you surf the net and not have heard of Bukkake? Perhaps you are the rare non purveyor of porn. Grin
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  • Re: Muhammad & Germs!
     Reply #29 - July 23, 2009, 10:03 AM
     Cheesy
    Quote
    This might sound like I am innocent, but I am not!

     grin12
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