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 Topic: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London

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  • Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     OP - June 11, 2009, 10:18 AM

    dogma of trinity is responsible for death of christianity, if christianity die islam will fill vacuum



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQKn4c7I2W4

    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #1 - June 11, 2009, 10:30 AM

    Fascinating, islam must be true.  Roll Eyes

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #2 - June 11, 2009, 10:36 AM

    We should take over in the name of Pastafarianism!
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #3 - June 11, 2009, 10:40 AM

    Personally I want to turn brixton mosque into a nightclub lol nightclubbing is the new religion.  Cheesy

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #4 - June 11, 2009, 10:45 AM

    lol... that's Cricklewood mosque - I lived just down the road from there and my mum and grandparents come from there. I used to go to that Mosque with my Dad in the 70s when they first bought it.

    What's your point Kope?

    If you think it is a sign that Islam is spreading - you are wrong. It is s sign that workers from Muslim countries who come to live here tend to want a place to pray and there are churches available since many local English people have the good sense to realise religion is nonsense.

    If Islam was making inroads into the local population one would expect there to be many - or at least quite a few - converts from the local English ethnic community, - especially as it has been there since the 70s - but there are hardly any, and almost all the worshippers at that mosque are either transient workers who are Muslims and who come and go or local Asains/Arabs/Kurds/Somalis etc... who live in the area (and were already Muslim.)

    In fact some local Muslims who used to attend that mosque have actually left Islam Wink
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #5 - June 11, 2009, 10:49 AM

    And the guy who posted that video (LutonLionheart) appears to be a Muhajiroun supporter. (or a BNP supporter posing as one.)

    Personally I think you are a troll kope and I doubt you are who you say you are.
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #6 - June 11, 2009, 11:17 AM

    dogma of trinity is responsible for death of christianity, if christianity die islam will fill vacuum.


    I doubt Islam can fill that or any other vacuum, it doesn't seem to attract many genuine converts, most of those who end up converting do so to marry Muslims, as non Muslim countries & families are cooler about that than Muslim families & countries.The reason these churches are being allowed to be converted into mosques is also due to the magnanimity of the non Muslim world, which Muslims exploit to the fullest, while often castigating the West(& other non Muslims) & preaching its destruction & its replacement with Islamic values & the Islamic faith.  Wink

    Also, conversion to Islam has few potential benefits to the converted, unlike conversion to Christianity which often brings valuable educational & health benefits to the poor as Christians run these great schools, hospitals etc.Islam brings a strict lifestyle  Muslimah sheikh which is unattractive to most people in the modern world.

    I don't know how far the secularization of the West or any other non Muslims can be a bulwark against an aggresive & assertive Islam & its double standards, I think a robust Christianity & robust other faiths which are unashamed to defend itself & confident enough to assert their positive features would've been a better defence. I think a diotima style Christianity stood a far greater chance.

    Religions will always be there with us & if religions obstruct the spread of other religions, like many Islamic nations do-there'll be fewer apostates in their nations while they'll be able to convert more infidels in lands which show a greater tolerance.

    I think for loads of people, leaving religion altogether is very difficult so there should be as many bridges as possible out of Islam. A mixed gender church is so much better than a men only mosque, Catholic schools are so much better providers of education compared to madrassas, Jesus so much more of a positive figure compared to Muhammad, Christian dress codes so much more practical, the doctrine of Caesar & God as different better than God & Caesar & God being the same, & Christianity's ability to reform & still remain while fully acknowledging its mistakes(race based slavery, colonization etc) is so much better than Islamic hypocrisy & refusal to acknowledge its own mistakes(racism, jihad etc) so if Christians still robustly sold their religion & viewed all Muslims as potential converts, I think more Muslims would leave & there'd be fewer mosques.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #7 - June 11, 2009, 11:42 AM

    If anything that Church turned to Mosque is a sign of the "decline" of religion. In this case; Christianity.

    Yes, it's true that the Christian world is ahead of the Muslim world when it comes to abandoning their religion. But frankly that is nothing for Muslims to be proud of. It only means that most Muslims are still too brainwashed to realise that their religion is nonsense.

    But I'm sure Muslims will begin to wake up eventually.

    This forum itself is a sign of that - a few years ago no-one would have believed there could be such a thing.

    The fact that you spend so much time here and feel the need to post things like this only reveals your own insecurity.
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #8 - June 11, 2009, 12:01 PM

    If anything that Church turned to Mosque is a sign of the "decline" of religion. In this case; Christianity.


    Yes, its a sign of decline of religion, but its a sign of decline of a particular religion-Christianity & not a sign of decline of religion in general. Religions have risen, flourished, declined & died out throughout history, the mid east is full of dead faiths, there are plenty of other dead faiths in the world. That certainly hasn't signified any decline of religion in general, just the decline & deaths of particular religions & other religions promptly came in to fill their place.

    Of course, it might happen that the world as a whole becomes religion free in the future or largely secularized & apathetic to religion & remains so for a long time in future, but since this is a relatively novel phenomenon, we really can't say.

    At the moment it seems that in Europe, churches converting to mosques is simply a sign of what has always happened, mid east temples had become Churches in the past, those churches had then been converted to mosques-its a replacement of one faith by another not a decline of religion in general.


    Yes, it's true that the Christian world is ahead of the Muslim world when it comes to abandoning their religion. But frankly that is nothing for Muslims to be proud of. It only means that most Muslims are still too brainwashed to realise that their religion is nonsense.

    But I'm sure Muslims will begin to wake up eventually.


    I too don't think that Christians abandoning their religion sooner is something Muslims should be proud of. Yes, Christianity too might be as non sensical as Islam, but as it exists currently-I can easily make out a lot of positives in the faith. The schools, hospitals, freedom of religion in Christian nations in general etc. In matters of the theology as well, I find Christianity better, even if its non sense. Jesus is a far better guy & there is no open ended command to kill all infidels, in Xtianity the NT & Jesus gets the upper hand, in Islam its the violent verses via the doctrine of abrogation. I do think there were positive features in the Christian faith itself which allowed it to reform & still remain.

    The fact that you spend so much time here and feel the need to post things like this only reveals your own insecurity.


    Yes, I am insecure-insecure & scared about terrorist attacks, the double standards of Islamic states etc. Whenever I see a big attack where 40-50+ people have been killed, I don't see it as any sign of reform, I just see some lives cut short & I think there's gonna be another soon, & the next one comes sooner rather than later. I dislike the fact that Saudi doesn't have a single Church, that apolytheist woman's family gets 3333 riyals but a Muslim man's family gets 100000 riyals if they're killed. I don't think non Muslims non atheists like speaklow, Baal or me are evil if we complain about Islam or are insecure about its effects. Quite a few Muslims feel Jews are out to rule the world due to tiny Israel, I fail to see why non Muslims who have suffered due to Islam in various parts of the world should stop feeling insecure.

    I don't see any potential benefits that I could get out of a reformed Islam apart from safety from terrorism, but Islam won't do a favor by reforming, its a duty. I do readily see many stuff I can get from Christianity like great schools.

    This is just my opinion.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #9 - June 11, 2009, 12:11 PM

    Sorry, Rashna, that post was to kope - not you.

    I should have made that clear in the post - my mistake.
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #10 - June 11, 2009, 12:22 PM

    Sorry, Rashna, that post was to kope - not you.

    I should have made that clear in the post - my mistake.


    Oh thats' allright.  Smiley I know I'm too harsh sometimes.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #11 - June 11, 2009, 01:19 PM

    dogma of trinity is responsible for death of christianity, if christianity die islam will fill vacuum

    Run for your lives!

     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

    Islam: where idiots meet terrorists.
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #12 - June 11, 2009, 10:15 PM

    Fascinating, islam must be true.  Roll Eyes



    as you know for sure there is no god but why do 85 to 90 % human believe in god?

    people who believe in god are dumb, irrational and brainwashed? yes indeed but the reason people believe in god because believing in god gave than hope, family value, reponsible spouse, so humans NEED even non existance god but trinity make no sense to todays christians so christians shopping for new god and ISLAM will be their last and final choice.

    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #13 - June 11, 2009, 10:19 PM

    And the guy who posted that video (LutonLionheart) appears to be a Muhajiroun supporter. (or a BNP supporter posing as one.)

    Personally I think you are a troll kope and I doubt you are who you say you are.


    what do you mean that i am troll please explain?


    i heard that before dance

    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
  • Re: Church Converted To a Mosque - North London
     Reply #14 - June 11, 2009, 10:36 PM



    The fact that you spend so much time here and feel the need to post things like this only reveals your own insecurity.


    i wil be the last believer in god, you dont believe in god, why do you  talk about god now ? are you preaching atheistism or you have dought that  god may exits?

    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

    http://www.xanga.com/hfghj23458654fgha
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