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OP - July 04, 2009, 01:55 AM

Anyone heard of Rashid Khalifa - any thoughts and what do you think of his quranic translation.

I had a lengthy conversation with somebody today, and he told me that he believed in his sect. I had never heard about him, just checked him out on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashad_Khalifa and aparently he was seen as a Messenger of God and was murdered in 1990

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Reply #1 - July 04, 2009, 07:09 AM

He proclaimed himself as messenger, which got himself killed. Famous for his "Mathematic Miracle of The Qur'an" which focuses on patterns with the number 19. He had to lob off the last two verses of surah At-Tawba (9, which he calls Al-Bara'a), calling them forged, to make his 'miracle' work.

There's was one of the first sites I seen when I converted, and even then I knew they were kinda kooky. http://www.submission.org/ They used to have this great question and answer section (I couldn't find it again in a cursory overview), which had some unintentionally funny material. They make Salah in English IIRC.

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Reply #2 - April 19, 2011, 12:53 PM

Khalifa hints here that he might be a messenger or prophet - which is what many submitters believe, including my submitter friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc1CLhORv58

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Reply #3 - April 19, 2011, 12:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSGvqjVHik8
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Reply #4 - April 19, 2011, 12:57 PM

lol

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Reply #5 - April 19, 2011, 01:08 PM

Islame, where did you think submitters and 19-ers came from? Did you think Darwin created them? How is it possible not to know the great messenger dr. Rashad? And please take back that he suggested to be a "prophet". He never said that. He is only a messenger. Not a prophet. Big difference.

His translation is complete BS in terms of accuracy, but is quite fun if you believe in miracles and Allah. I know from experience.

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Reply #6 - April 19, 2011, 01:12 PM

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And please take back that he suggested to be a "prophet". He never said that. He is only a messenger.

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Reply #7 - April 19, 2011, 01:14 PM

5 messengers
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Reply #8 - April 19, 2011, 01:14 PM

So true, Zeb. I wonder if fundies would have spared RK if he claimed to be a prophet instead.

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Reply #9 - April 19, 2011, 06:12 PM

Khilafa was the first translator who translated "dahaha" as "egg-shaped" in verse 79:30.

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Reply #10 - April 19, 2011, 06:30 PM

i give my vote and elect that chemist Rashid Khalifa any time over the Prophet of Islam as messenger of allah doll..

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Reply #11 - April 19, 2011, 08:54 PM

I bumped into Rashid Khalifa's sect several years ago when I was a teen and got briefly excited by the numerical miracles bullshit but was quickly told they were a deviant sect outside the fold of (mainstream) Islam.

Quote from: IsLame on April 19, 2011, 12:53 PM
Khalifa hints here that he might be a messenger or prophet - which is what many submitters believe, including my submitter friend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc1CLhORv58

lol @ Khalifa arguing that Muhammad should not be regarded as the messenger of god. He's using the Qur'an to argue that. Well... where did the Qur'an come from? lol

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Reply #12 - April 20, 2011, 12:10 AM

It's Rashad not Rashid for the hundredth time.

Sunnis are a "deviant sect".

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Reply #13 - April 20, 2011, 12:20 AM

Islam is a deviant sect.

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Reply #14 - April 20, 2011, 12:24 AM

True. But there's no need to blame the Jews for everything, is there, Ateapotist?

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Reply #15 - April 20, 2011, 12:32 AM

Of course not.

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