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  • Puppy Farming
     OP - July 13, 2009, 11:24 PM

    This is Elsa. She's a 5 month old Golden Retriever. The bf's sister bought her at Easter and she is much loved by all. Today we received news that she is poorly and the kindest course of action will be to put her to sleep in a couple of months. 

    She was bought from a company called 'dogs4us', based in Leeds. I wish we had done some research before buying from them.  In the initial months she used to sleep a lot and we put that down to her simply being a puppy. But as she grew we noticed she didn't run much when out for walks. Since many of these walks corresponded with puppy training classes she had been attending, again, we put it down to general tiredness. Due to her level of inactivity, Elsa was taken to the vets, who ruled that she has very weak hips. The attending doctor proclaimed that this is the worst case he had seen in his many years of practice. She is in pain and will require multiple hip operations in the coming months. Due to the level of pain and her shortened life expectancey, coupled with crippling vet fees, she will be put to sleep in a few months.

    As a pedigree she is prized. Her golden coloured fur is cause of people stopping and complementing her on days out. And with many other prize things, the dog trade business can sometimes be very dirty. Lots of irresponsible breeders and sellers, concerned only with earning fast money, neglect the wellbeing of these animals. To put cost into perspective, Elsa, as a 4 week old puppy, cost in the regions of ?1000. A crossbread or a mongrel costs much less.

    BBC Rogue Traders aired an episode of dogs being supplied from puppy farms, many of which had been diseased and had to be put down soon after their dotting owners paid, what was sometimes, large amounts of money. Dogs4us, from where Elsa was bought, is reputed to have links with Irish puppy farms. Referring to the animals they sell as 'stock' (even their trading names seems ill-fitting), they fail to provide adequate  care and attention one should expect from responsible traders. The names and history of Elsa's parents and grandparents was not provided to us, a standard practice expected when selling pedigree dogs as it is their lineage that makes them prized. In addition to this, it was just too simple to buy Elsa. It was as easy as walking into a newsagents and buying a chocolate bar; no checks were done to ensure she was going to a loving home. It seems Dogs4Us only care about the money in your pocket.

    Elsa's case is just one of hundreds. Up and down the country, puppy farms operate, irresponsibly breeding and selling pedigree dogs. It's cruel and should be curtailed. Aside the money involved, it is the total disregard for an animal's life which is utterly disgusting.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #1 - July 13, 2009, 11:40 PM

    Spread the news, guys. If you are considering purchasing a pet dog or if you know anybody who wants a dog, tell them that they must do research into the breed of the dog they are purchasing, possible defects that pure-bred pedigree dogs can have, and most importantly look into the history of the pet shop AND the breeder where they get the dogs from.

    The vet doctor that looked at Elsa is supposed to be one of the most renowned vet doctors in the country who has a great deal of experience and has told us that Elsa has the worst case of hip dysplasia that the doctor has ever seen in their life! The shop where we bought Elsa from (Dogs4us) has attracted bad publicity before. We don't know for sure whether the pet shop can be blamed for Elsa's very early terminal illness but we're going to do some research and if it turns out that the shop is being irresponsible in the pet dog trade then we are going to do everything we can to take them down.

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #2 - July 14, 2009, 01:25 AM

    Aww I'm so sorry to hear about Elsa :( With her hip problem, I would put her down too...it's a hard step to take but definitely the best for the poor pup. Also, hip operations can be very costly, and painful for the dog to go through.

    I heard about puppy farming/milling. That's why I don't like pet shops :( The studs and bitches aren't treated very well at all, and are bred more than normal....their pups are taken away from them at a dangerously young age and the pups are put on show in petshops. They begin to develop behavioral and medical problems.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #3 - July 14, 2009, 03:45 PM

    Hip displasia is also very common in Labrador Retrievers as they are a popular breed of dog, thus they are over and inbred by puppy mills.  My mom had a yellow lab who was the sweetest dog in the world.  When she first got her she was full of energy but then after a year or so she started to age REALLY FAST!  First she started slowing down, then the fur around her face turned white and her hips became severely arthritic.  In the last few months before my mom had to have her put down she could barely walk.  She still wanted to go for her daily walks but her hips made it near impossible for her to get out the door.

    I don't know exactly where my mom got her from but she usually rescues animals from the pound who are going to be put down.  I had a sneaking suspicion from the start that there were going to be issues with her because of her breed and I think that she originally came from a puppy mill but I don't know.  I miss that dog!  Cry

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

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  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #4 - July 14, 2009, 03:52 PM

    I was advised to steer clear of pedigree dogs anyway, they are much more prone to hip issues than mongrols.

    I wouldn't buy a puppy from the pet shop, all the advice I got from my vet strongly discourages it.

    It's so sad that animal life is meaningless in the face of money.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #5 - July 14, 2009, 04:17 PM

    The same goes for kittens.  I'd avoid pedigree cats and pet shops and go for a moggie that needs a good home.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #6 - July 14, 2009, 04:24 PM

    I didn't know much about dogs until I saw a documentary on the BBC called "Pedigree Dogs Exposed." That title really confused me. To me pedigree dogs just meant a variety of different species of canines. I thought, how could there be something to be exposed about a species of animal? Well then I learnt that the classification of pedigree dogs had nothing to do with genetics at all. If a dog looked like a breed of dog, then it was that breed of dog, as specified by the Kennel Club. No genetical tests can be done to determine which breed a dog belongs to. Whatever the Kennel Clubs whims are, it goes. If the Kennel Club wants a double curl on the tail of a Bulldog, then it matters not how much pain the Bulldog would have to undergo living with a double curl on its tail, the double curl is "highly sought after", meaning, it says Bulldogs should have double curls in their Illustrated Breed Standard's Guide Book.

    Take a look at this and read the info at the bottom as to how breeds have changed over the years thanks to the ongoing guidance of the Kennel Club.


    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #7 - July 14, 2009, 04:28 PM

    The same goes for kittens.  I'd avoid pedigree cats and pet shops and go for a moggie that needs a good home.


    I think pedigree anything is a cause for concern. The Eugenics movement could be seen as an attempt to breed "pedigree humans"!

    I wanna get a cat when I'm older but still thinking about whether I wanna get a dog. If I do get a dog, I just can't wait to take him/her for a walk and if asked tell people proudly that my dog is a mongrel! If they give me a weird look I'll definitely ask them if there is anything wrong with that.  Smiley

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #8 - July 14, 2009, 04:30 PM

    My dog's a mixed breed, and my cats are tabbies, which is not a pedigree, at least not my ones anyway.

    I'm a mixed person myself, I have never been into pedigrees for pedigree status.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #9 - July 14, 2009, 04:31 PM

    Oh, and those pics are shocking jamez, I had not previously been awar of just how drastic the changes are in some of the breeds.

    It's so stupid.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #10 - July 14, 2009, 04:38 PM

    Those pics are shocking, and some of the cat breeds are just as bad.  Persians and Siamese cats used to be great mousers, look at the state of them now with squashed up faces and legs so spindly they can barely stand on them let alone chase a mouse.

    Gimme a moggie any day.

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #11 - July 14, 2009, 05:35 PM

    Although I love golden retrievers, especially Elsa, I have become more cautious about pedigrees. I've learnt that it is very important to know the breader and their policies of breeding. If I ever get a dog it will probably be a Labrador Retriever.

    Here is another picture of Elsa, taken 3 weeks ago:

  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #12 - July 14, 2009, 05:37 PM

     Cry  Aww, it's so heartbreaking.  hugs

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #13 - July 14, 2009, 05:56 PM

    I had a pedigree Persian cat a few years ago.  I found her at the pound and I had to take her home with me.  She was relatively health but her face was VERY flat which meant she snored a lot, had to eat her food off a plate rather than from a bowl and I had to constantly clean out her tear tracks because she had the same eye problem that many small dogs have where the tear ducts get squashed so they are constantly tearing up which causes the nasty brown tracks down their faces.  I used to stick my index finger out and she would walk up and scratch her face against it to relieve the itching from the constant tearing.

    She lived to be 8 years old then started suffering from renal failure and went off to die the day before I was going to take her to the vet... Smart cat!

    My rule with adopting pets is that they either be rescue animals or come from the pound.

    As Berbs said, I am a mixed breed myself so why not my cats!

    @Ferrero, I'm so sorry for your loss.

    DOWN WITH THE KENNEL CLUB!!! This is sparta

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #14 - July 14, 2009, 08:35 PM

    This is Elsa. She's a 5 month old Golden Retriever.[/b] The bf's sister bought her at Easter and she is much loved by all. Today we received news that she is poorly and the kindest course of action will be to put her to sleep


    That is really sad, Ferrero  Cry
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #15 - July 31, 2009, 09:43 AM

    Do you OWN pets? See the video below

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPHPY1CWFZA
  • Re: Puppy Farming
     Reply #16 - July 31, 2009, 10:22 PM

    No, I don't. Cats own people.  Afro

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
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