Women to blame still a pervasive attitude, even in the west!

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Reply #60 - July 14, 2009, 11:44 PM

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Reply #61 - July 14, 2009, 11:47 PM

Quote from: PeruvianSkies on July 14, 2009, 09:30 AM
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Reply #62 - July 15, 2009, 01:34 AM

Quote from: Cheetah on July 14, 2009, 08:32 PM
Going to a gay club is not necessarily safe either, I know of a girl that was raped in the toilets of a gay bar in Dublin.

Probably very rarely happens.

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Reply #63 - July 15, 2009, 01:44 AM

Quote from: kope on July 14, 2009, 11:47 PM
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Reply #64 - July 15, 2009, 01:49 AM

In the moral sense, it is men who should be respecting your liberty and refrain from touching you.

In the practical sense, if there is an understanding that men are allowed to touch you if you dress provocatively, then you should dress less provocatively if you don't want men touching you. That's one solution anyway and it is by no means the moral solution. If I was you I would dress as provocatively as I want, but taking precautions such as going clubbing with friends. If anyone touches you, you have the opportunity to teach them a lesson

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Reply #65 - July 17, 2009, 02:25 AM

Quote from: BerberElla
I'm attaching a poll because I would like to see how many of the members here think that a woman is responsible for the reaction men have to her if she is just innocently dancing to a song she enjoys wearing an outfit she likes.

I voted no. But I'm not sure what is meant by blaming a woman for the reaction to her outfit and dancing. It sounds quite dangerous, like blaming a woman for being raped if she is wearing a short skirt. Any man that has been raised by parents less mad than Fred West knows not to rape or otherwise violate the personal space of a woman (or man) that he finds attractive.

Unless I misunderstood the question. Why are there two votes for yes? I wonder if the two people in question could tell us why they think the woman is responsible.
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Reply #66 - July 17, 2009, 11:43 AM

The yes option doesn't say that women are responsible if a man invades her personal space. All the yes option says is that a woman should dress down if she doesn't want her personal space invaded. Practically, this is obvious.

I think what needs to be distinguished is what a woman should do
a) morally (if anything)
b) practically (in order to bring about a certain outcome, such as protect her personal space)

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Reply #67 - July 18, 2009, 07:58 PM

Quote from: BerberElla on July 14, 2009, 09:27 AM
Yeah, pretty much. If I'm walking past too quickly you can lightly tug my wrist to make me trun around, but grabbing me and pulling me back, running your hands all over me, and then trying to kiss me and stick your tongue down my throat all whilst I am trying to struggle out of your unwelcome grip is just too fucking much.

Learn some self-defence moves that can break bones, like fingers or wrists.
A good knee to the groin works well. Claw his eyes out if you have to. Anything that causes sufficient physical injury to give him other things to worry about will do.
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Reply #68 - July 18, 2009, 08:12 PM

Quote from: Submissive Bob on July 14, 2009, 02:22 PM
The sad truth is that some people enjoy disrespecting others. Some people like to get drunk and grope. Some don't think an evening is complete until they punch somebody's lights out.

The best club in my neighbourhood has an army of enthusiastic bouncers inside and a gang of cops waiting outside for those who don't immediately smarten up after being tossed into the fresh air

Here in Houston we have a place where all the bouncers are off-duty police officers. Screw up and you are immediately arrested and taken downtown.
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Reply #69 - July 19, 2009, 02:26 AM

Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on July 14, 2009, 01:12 PM
If you go out clubbing dressed to entice, you will entice.

In a bar you have :

1. Young men filled with testosterone
2. Alcohol which quickly lowers inhibitions
3. Music
4. Dancing in close proximity

and you dressed in an "outfit you like" - what does that mean? maybe you like a dress that reveals your panties or maybe its just a pair of jeans. But if its the former, you have to ask yourself some questions.

If on the other hand, you want to see what happens when males become neutered and stop this kind of behavior, go to Scandinavia, Norway in Particular. Men dont dare approach women (or just little interest) and women are dead bored. The same women end up going to Barcelona where men act more like men.

Bottom line, its very difficult to control male sexuality and there are risks involved in enticement (which Im not claiming you were necessarilly doing)

Not really, it is just a matter of throwing the few bad apples out of the club. the enticing happens to guys who come from weak cultures. The other backgrounds are pretty cool with it. And you keep few bad apples in, and next week, next month, they will bring their friends.

I goto to clubs where women dress in lingerie and strategically placed leather on their body. All we had to do was throw out a jackasses or two each week for couple month and eventually the place cleaned up pretty quick. the trick is to not care how much the jackass is spending at the bar. Throw his ass out even if he drops 300$ a night. And jackasses will drop 300$ a night. They have an urge to compensate for their small dicks it seems.

The more relaxed & equal women feel, the more will come off, the less relaxed (see: stupid fvcks), the more women will cover up.

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Reply #70 - July 19, 2009, 06:01 AM

I see a lot of what Nour is saying and it makes sense, I think it might be thanks to the ole "must have shmex after marriage" tosh.

Although, its not exclusive to one culture

Blame the woman is an excuse for mans aggressive and evolution given-"need to spread his seed", males by and large are more aggressive and this is accepted as fact, females on the other hand can wear what they want so are expected to dress down. This is bullshit of course, if you hit someone every time you got angry at them well you would kill most people you knew, if you ate everything you saw that was delicious looking well youd be fatter than Pavarotti, and thus if you have to touch everyone woman you found attractive then you have no self control

Have some fuckin self control!
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Reply #71 - July 23, 2009, 09:04 AM

Quote from: Arab-Wannabe on July 14, 2009, 01:31 PM
Yeah they've managed but their men have lost a lot of that "edge" which ironically is what many women are after.

Unfortunately, he has a point there.

One side of the coin is that you women get harassed by aggressive men.
The other side of the coin is that passive men such as myself get completely rejected ignored by women.

It's a vicious circle

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Reply #72 - July 25, 2009, 05:31 AM

Anyone can dress as they like.Iam not saying i like a sexy girl.EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN RULES.Well...........Some people always Interferes in others Business for no reason.So there is the Problem...................

Not all mens are bad ....And not all have same character........
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