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 Topic: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI

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  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #60 - July 24, 2009, 06:10 AM

    <snip>

    By the way, I am still against Islam but now understand people see it in different ways  but since the revolution and the oil money it is being seen in a uniformly rigid Wahhabi/Deobandi/Salafi way rather than any other, FFI is wasting away because its just the same old people and thats why I havent been back there, I dont know why Im back here either, but its probably because I find this place fun and the people human.

    That's it. Oh, sorry I made a stink before I went.

    No worries. Don't think anyone here is into holding grudges. Shit happens.  Afro

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #61 - July 24, 2009, 08:57 AM

    FFI is wasting away because its just the same old people and thats why I havent been back there

    So whats you side of the story on what has happened to FFI.  P.S  Does Sina no longer post on FFI?  I started a post there, and he never replied?

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  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #62 - July 24, 2009, 09:15 AM

    Thank you Emerald, I hope Saudi Arabia/The US is treating you OK and I hope things are ok with your family now.

    Thanks Os your a good man, but I'm sure I pissed a few people off and I wouldn't be surprised if there still pissed, I wouldn't blame them either. I still feel guilty for it all the same

    Anyway Islame, what happened at FFI? Do you mean the situation? Basically the situation is that there are about 5-10 people on FFI who love everything that shines out of Ali Sina's arse, right wing fundy nutjobs who love him and his Obama hate. The rest of the forum either openly opposses these twots or ignores them outright, there is a huge soup mix of opinion on FFI albeit most people take a harder stance on Islam than people do on here but in all other aspects many of them wouldn't be too out of place here. Debates aren't very frequent anymore because the main debater and article writer has left, also because very few Muslims go on there and they are the same old Muslims who have won, lost and argued before.There is a lot of talent and knowledge on FFI but the forums are almost dead now, the main site is still buzzing and there are plenty of decent and well written articles, although they are marred and watermarked by the fact that Ali Sina is a loon.

    Speaking of Ali Sina, he rarely goes on the site. In fact I think a lot of people try the bloody mary approach to see how much he goes on. IE, they take to saying something very outlandish or offensive about Ali Sina (Ali Sina is an FBI agent or Ali Sina is a Muslim trying to further Islam) and see if he shows up. He never does, he's too busy giving radio interviews to doom saying Christian radio shows and writing a book about how Obama the vampire is trying to eat all Christian babies to post on FFI. Basically unless he comes in in the near future and spends a good few hours on FFI searching for his own name he won't respond to you.

    Too bad the man's an idiot now, he once was great, his debates were great, his articles were sound and his personality wasn't that of a nutjob, now...........most people on the site hate him, even if they don't say it outloud, I can tell you that nearly all of the top members strongly dislike him, even some of those who are behind the running of the site!


    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #63 - July 24, 2009, 09:22 AM

    Speaking of Ali Sina, he rarely goes on the site. In fact I think a lot of people try the bloody mary approach to see how much he goes on. IE, they take to saying something very outlandish or offensive about Ali Sina (Ali Sina is an FBI agent or Ali Sina is a Muslim trying to further Islam) and see if he shows up. He never does, he's too busy giving radio interviews to doom saying Christian radio shows and writing a book about how Obama the vampire is trying to eat all Christian babies to post on FFI. Basically unless he comes in in the near future and spends a good few hours on FFI searching for his own name he won't respond to you.

    In that case, you might find our theories about Sina http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=5892.0 in this thread interesting

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  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #64 - July 24, 2009, 09:34 AM

    Oh I've read many of them, indeed I have. I don't think like many members do that he is not an Ex-Muslim, from what I hear of his voice and his articles and Persian writing he is indeed an Iranian born Ex-Muslim. His parents were probably somewhat secular but his grandmother was religious, he often says that she is the one exception to his rule that there is no such thing as a "moderate Muslim". She was probably the old, kind type that would see her own ideals in Islam and espout them as if they were Islam itself, many of the older generation do this as they grew up in a different Islamic time.

    But, I know why Ali Sina is how he is now. In fact when I first left Islam I was actually planning to be a Christian myself! I wasn't an "atheist" or "agnostic" till about 3 months ago, and when I was here I was planning to study Christianity etc. The pull of Christianity to an ex-Muslim might be fairly clear, I found the "love" Jesus shows you as oppossed to the immerciful acts of Muhammad to be quite contrasting, I also liked this personal relationship with God appealling whereby I would be one of God's children! Of course, these are all simplifcations and I found out what lies deep in Christianity so I changed my mind. But when I first apostasised I surronded myself with Christian fanatics, I even started going to the Christian Union at my university, interested. I read some of the new testament as recommended and I attended some bible study. I suppose Ali Sina did the same recently, his earlier work suggests strong atheistic/agnostic beliefs but it seems that he has gone the opposite direction to me, ie, only recently started surrounding himself with Christians, and the wrong type if that. Hardcore right wing doomsaying republican Christians! I think though he sees that Christianity is bullshit, and I dont think he accommodates them because he gets money from them, in fact, I can almost confirm that the support he gets from Christians is little more than lip service and includes no financial support! But, it must be personally gratifying for him, having a group where he can belong and which gives him moral principles he can base his ideas on. I don't think he has the strength to decide for himself anymore, which is a shame, because he's principles were once good on paper.

    I can see the attraction though, it's a shame because this is the attraction that has brought him down.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #65 - July 24, 2009, 10:19 AM

    No worries. Don't think anyone here is into holding grudges. Shit happens.  Afro


    Seconded!  Good to see you FF  Afro
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #66 - July 24, 2009, 11:02 AM

    No. Salafis do not deny Allah having hands, or shins and say they are metaphorical. They do not say they are physical, because Allah is not like us. He has hands, and shins, but they're not like ours. Don't deny them, don't interpret them away, just say they're there, and don't try to explain it, Grin.

    See http://spubs.com/sps/apps_SharhusSunnah.cfm?PointID=80


    Actually, yeh that sounds right. They're not great thinkers those Salafis!

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #67 - July 24, 2009, 11:08 AM

    I'm thinking...

    Ali Sina... Christian....

    and

    Faith Freedom International.... Faith Freedom....as in freedom from faith, right?

     wacko

    The unlived life is not worth examining.
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #68 - July 24, 2009, 01:09 PM

    Good to see you back FF, and it's nice to hear you don't hate us Wink I'm really sorry to hear about your family problems far away hug
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #69 - July 24, 2009, 02:46 PM

    I'm thinking...

    Ali Sina... Christian....

    and

    Faith Freedom International.... Faith Freedom....as in freedom from faith, right?

     wacko


    That's not what FFI stands for

    fuck you
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #70 - July 24, 2009, 03:17 PM

    it is

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  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #71 - July 24, 2009, 03:20 PM

    Is not

    fuck you
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #72 - July 24, 2009, 03:25 PM

    what does it stand for then?:  Islame gets comfortable as he prepares for the joke

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  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #73 - July 24, 2009, 03:30 PM

    Fucking Fuckhead Inbreds

    fuck you
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #74 - July 24, 2009, 03:32 PM

    From Fisting Injured

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  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #75 - July 24, 2009, 03:41 PM

     Cheesy You win

    fuck you
  • Re: FinallyFree: Meltdown at FFI
     Reply #76 - July 27, 2009, 07:20 AM

    Thank you Hassan, you are brilliant, especially your newest youtube videos which I have been keeping an eye on with zeal and interest, I hope one day soon you can reach a magnificant audience that you deserve

    Thanks PeruvianSKies, I think we all have to deal with family matters at times, not easy but humans adapt. I hope all is well with your family.

    Thanks everyone, you are fantastic.

    Qman you still crack me up with that American humour of yours!

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
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