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  • Question: Are you a vegetarian?
  • Yes, I am a vegetarian - 2 (9.1%)
  • I am a vegan - 0 (0%)
  • Ovo-vegetarian - 0 (0%)
  • Not yet, but I would like to become one - 3 (13.6%)
  • No and I dont have pets - 11 (50%)
  • No, I have pets, would hesitate to have them slaughtered - 4 (18.2%)
  • No, I have pets, would NOT hesitate to have them slaughtered - 2 (9.1%)
  • Total Voters: 22

 Topic: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?

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  • Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     OP - July 27, 2009, 12:28 PM
    Hello people, I am just new here, am frequenting often since I joined the discussions.

    I think when you belong to some "faith" its sometimes not easy to practice  your own personal choices related to what you eat or how you go about with endless rituals or customs. How about pets, are you allowed to have pets in Islam? I have never seen many muslims with pets so I dont know how much liberal they are on that one.


    Now, they say dead meat is forbidden, arent all animals dead when they get slaughtered, they say blood is forbidden, but at the same time no meat can be obtained without shredding atleast a drop of blood.  In my opinion a slaughter is a slaughter, no matter HOW the animal is killed.

    This is what I keep hearing from them

    "Islam enjoys mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat (Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah"

    In my opinion there is nothing compassionate about animal slaughter. But this 14th century argument certain does not apply in today's world. They eat meat because they like to eat bloody flesh and want to use the excuse "God said I can" to defend their indefensible position.

    Some say you can be good muslim being a vegetarian as well, which part of the quaran they intend to follow. The part that says you must be compassionate to all creatures or the part that tells you it is OK to to slit  the throat and slaughter innocent animals.

    What value is there to an advancing human being looking for God to take to religious practices that are devoid of compassion?

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD7yKSk-DgA&feature=PlayList&p=C24495C1DFD4D1B6&index=2

    More intensive farming also results in the destruction of natural habitats, deforestation, inefficient land-use, animal disease, waste, increased water consumption, water pollution, global climate change and more fossil fuel consumption
    A lot of people find it particularly upsetting to view images or even to read about the average life experience of a farmed animal.

    With the growing awareness about the cruelty involved and learning more of the importance of healthy food, many people  go vegetarian.

    How many of you here are,or trying to become vegetarians? Do you have pets? Would you readily give them away for slaughtering the same way your food was prepared?
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian?
     Reply #1 - July 27, 2009, 12:31 PM
    Did you come here for the specific purpose of preaching?
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian?
     Reply #2 - July 27, 2009, 12:40 PM
    I used to be a veggie but I'm not any more.
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian?
     Reply #3 - July 27, 2009, 12:44 PM
    Hi I am RIBS... and I am a Meatoholic!   Yum Yum
    ...
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian?
     Reply #4 - July 27, 2009, 12:45 PM
    I'm  not a veggie and I don't see the point.

    If I did ever become one it  would be for fiscal reasons purely, IE meat is quite expensive in the UK and you can grow vegetables, thats the only reason I could do it for.

    I dont care too much about animal welfare to be honest, I mean, it saddens me to hear shocking stories and we shoulld have some standards but apart from that you gotta do what you gotta do

    I'll duck for now in preparation for the amount of abuse from you for not caring. Sorry, but I dont really see the need.                  
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian?
     Reply #5 - July 27, 2009, 12:58 PM
    Quote from: RIBS on July 27, 2009, 12:44 PM
    Hi I am RIBS... and I am a Meatoholic!   Yum Yum


    You're from North Africa! Of course you are a meataholic!
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian?
     Reply #6 - July 27, 2009, 10:37 PM
    I'm somewhere between vegetarian and vegan, but I don't want to be. God created meat...and he sanctified it for our eating. I feel bad that I don't want to eat it.
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian?
     Reply #7 - July 28, 2009, 12:36 AM
    Quote from: Cheetah on July 27, 2009, 12:40 PM
    I used to be a veggie but I'm not any more.


    My already high level of respect for you just went up even more. Welcome back to the dark side, Cheetah.
    fuck you
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian?
     Reply #8 - July 28, 2009, 03:02 PM
    Quote from: Cheetah on July 27, 2009, 12:40 PM
    I used to be a veggie but I'm not any more.


    What made you decide go vegetarian and for how long? Smiley
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Please reply in your comments if you own pets
     Reply #9 - July 28, 2009, 03:06 PM
    Same as cheetah, used to be one, but then a bacon sandwich tempted me out of it.

    Yes I own pets, and yes, I would hate to, but if it came down to a matter of survival because of some kind of major global disaster and I had no choice, I would eat my pets too.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own?
     Reply #10 - July 28, 2009, 03:11 PM
    That is interesting, for how long were you vegetarian?
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #11 - July 28, 2009, 03:13 PM
    1 year.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #12 - July 28, 2009, 03:44 PM
    And in case you were a muslim, was it hard that way?
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #13 - July 28, 2009, 03:55 PM
    VegetarianSoul - Its cultural norms that are in your way, not religion.  Take a look at every country in the world, regardless of religion, and you will see the same meat-eating behaviour.
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  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #14 - July 28, 2009, 04:11 PM
    I used to be a veterinarian, for about 3 years.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #15 - July 28, 2009, 04:13 PM
    Quote from: VegetarianSoul on July 28, 2009, 03:44 PM
    And in case you were a muslim, was it hard that way?


    I was going against the religion when I opted to be a vegetarian, it's turning your nose up at allahs gift, the gift of meat that he sent to replace abrahams son in the sacrifice.

    All bullshit, but that's what I was told anyway.
    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #16 - July 28, 2009, 05:23 PM
    Berbs said:

    Quote
    I was going against the religion when I opted to be a vegetarian, it's turning your nose up at allahs gift, the gift of meat that he sent to replace abrahams son in the sacrifice.

    All bullshit, but that's what I was told anyway.


    That is the reason I'm thinking of eating meat. I just haven't been able to bring myself to do it.
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Please reply in your comments if you own pets
     Reply #17 - July 28, 2009, 06:27 PM
    Quote from: BerberElla on July 28, 2009, 03:06 PM
    Same as cheetah, used to be one, but then a bacon sandwich tempted me out of it.

    Yes I own pets, and yes, I would hate to, but if it came down to a matter of survival because of some kind of major global disaster and I had no choice, I would eat my pets too.


    I don't think I could do it. I think I could kill a random person on the street in order to survive a lot easier than I could kill my cat. This may sound like a total pussy thing to say (or incredibly callous, paradoxically), but my cat is part of my family, and the only people who rank above him are close friends/coworkers/union brothers and sisters, and human family. A choice between 100 random people I don't know in Philadelphia dropping dead tomorrow or my cat, I wouldn't hesitate to choose them over my cat. I guess it's just selfish actually. But I do really love the guy.
    fuck you
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #18 - July 28, 2009, 06:30 PM
    +1   yes  I'd sooner eat a random stranger than Tiggy any day. 
    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #19 - July 28, 2009, 06:55 PM
    Don't eat Christians.  bunny bunny bunny
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #20 - July 28, 2009, 06:59 PM
    I would sooner eat a Muslim as their meat is Halal
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  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #21 - July 28, 2009, 09:53 PM
    I used to have some pets, but I ate them.  dance
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #22 - July 28, 2009, 09:55 PM
    Quote from: Shaneequa on July 28, 2009, 06:55 PM
    Don't eat Christians.  bunny bunny bunny

    But the last one was soooooo tasty.  grin12
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #23 - July 28, 2009, 10:25 PM
    Were they chickens?
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  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #24 - July 28, 2009, 10:29 PM
    The Christians? Yeah. No fortitude these days.  whistling2
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #25 - July 28, 2009, 10:31 PM
    So that's why people are always trying to chase me with condiments.  mysmilie_977
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #26 - July 28, 2009, 10:40 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on July 28, 2009, 10:29 PM
    The Christians? Yeah. No fortitude these days.  whistling2


     Tongue
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #27 - July 28, 2009, 10:47 PM
    But Shan, back in the old days you didn't have to chase Christians with condiments. They were proud to be martyred for their faith.  Cheesy
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #28 - July 28, 2009, 10:49 PM
    That was before we discovered Television and life became bareable.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Are you a vegetarian? Update-What about Pets, do you own any?
     Reply #29 - July 28, 2009, 10:58 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on July 28, 2009, 10:47 PM
    But Shan, back in the old days you didn't have to chase Christians with condiments. They were proud to be martyred for their faith.  Cheesy


    This is true, but lying down to be rubbed with mango sauce is probably not the same as being martyred for the faith.  Wink
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