A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #60 - August 05, 2009, 11:12 AM

Quote from: Hassan on July 29, 2009, 09:49 PM
Bingo!

btw I love 99 red balloons - here's the English version for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14IRDDnEPR4

I know you like some good music Hass, but sometimes I really have to question your taste...ficking 99 red baloons. Especially awful is the 'funk' bit on this heap of germanic shite . I bet you have the 'Best Of Chaka Demus and Pliers' sitting proudly beside your Nena and Ace Of Bass CD's - real reggae, like God inteneded!!Never trust anyone when it comes to pop music besides the Brits and the yanks, then you cant go wrong. (yeah, yeah, Abba, but they were a one off.)

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #61 - August 05, 2009, 12:08 PM

Quote from: shadowq8 on August 03, 2009, 05:52 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population

notice how many are arab notice how many are not.

Thanks for that map. Its very interesting. Have you noted how muslims are concentrated around the radius of Arabia, and get progessively less & less as you move further out?

Did God intend that those who were lucky enough to live around Arabia would get the message, and everyone else, well sod everyone else.

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #62 - August 05, 2009, 01:49 PM

Quote from: atheist.pk on August 05, 2009, 06:52 AM
If the Arabian Allah really is all-knowing etc, then why didnt he include the 'pa' and 'cha' sounds and their equivalent alphabets.

I've always thought that! Did Allah never anticipate the arrival of Pepsi into the Arabian Peninsula?

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #63 - August 05, 2009, 04:06 PM

You don't like Bebsi? Or Beetza Hut?

Allah didn't think Pepsi should be accommodated, you should be drinking Mecca Cola!

Quote from: shadowq8 on August 05, 2009, 09:49 AM
And once again here we are trolling.

You're the one who's trolling, we're spittin jokes .

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #64 - August 05, 2009, 09:09 PM

Have you heard that famous tongue twister,

Beter Biber bicked a beck of bickled bebbers

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #65 - August 07, 2009, 02:47 PM

It never bothered me initially and in my younger days I saw these things as superficial. As I got older, I found more and more Indo/Pak people doing it and dressing in Syrian and Moroccan garb. The converts were probably the best at it and you would find them looking through the thawbs etc in the Islamic stores. With the reverts sometimes I understood because of the buzz that converting to Islam would have given them. I wasn't fond of the Indo/Paks doing it though. The whole thing smelled of inferiority complex in the end.
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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #66 - August 07, 2009, 07:43 PM

Quote from: Hassan on July 29, 2009, 08:39 PM

I also didn't like the way that so many Asians tried to be "Arab" - it seemed demeaning to them and it didn't seem right.

Well they got historical reason to feel like that cause if you go back in time it was Arabs who brought Islam in Sub-continent.
But not me

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #67 - August 07, 2009, 10:22 PM

Quote from: Hassan on July 29, 2009, 08:39 PM
Let's face it, Islam is a very Arab-centric religion. The Arab customs, habits, food, clothes and of course language of the Arabs has been raised to Divine status as a result of Islam.

How did (does) that make you feel?

Did it play a part in you leaving Islam?

I personally hated the hierarchy amongst Muslims that always placed the Arabs at the top in whatever meeting or gathering one was at - and I am part Arab!

I also didn't like the way that so many Asians tried to be "Arab" - it seemed demeaning to them and it didn't seem right.

And let's face it - if you don't understand Arabic - you will never be able to win an argument with an Arab. ("Oh you don't understand the TRUE meaning of what God says - coz you don't understand Arabic")

It is always assumed that any truly pious Muslim must try and learn Arabic.

God is so parochial!

I would not say it played a role in why i left Islam.
But i have noticed when i was a Muslim, i was disliked by the Arabs because i was African.
We do tend to be looked down on both the Asians and Arab community as lesser Muslims than them.
Arabs i have ran across has expressed they are more Muslim because Porphet Mohammed was a Arab and he had slaves and therefore we were filth and below them, infact i recall my uncle going Mecca. He got searched so many times just because he was Black.

Even White converts are treated better than African Muslims imo.

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #68 - August 07, 2009, 10:37 PM

Your right there, blacks have it the worst unfortunately.

Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #69 - August 07, 2009, 10:45 PM

Yup, ignoring the fact 15% of the Muslim population are Arabs and i would hardly say they make Islam out to be anything other than a backward repressive religion when put into practice by them in the form of sharia but they need to feel superior over someone.

I remember times when i used to have fights with the Arab Muslim girls in school.

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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #70 - August 07, 2009, 10:52 PM

Quote from: Meredith on August 07, 2009, 10:22 PM
I would not say it played a role in why i left Islam.
But i have noticed when i was a Muslim, i was disliked by the Arabs because i was African.
We do tend to be looked down on both the Asians and Arab community as lesser Muslims than them.
Arabs i have ran across has expressed they are more Muslim because Porphet Mohammed was a Arab and he had slaves and therefore we were filth and below them, infact i recall my uncle going Mecca. He got searched so many times just because he was Black.

Even White converts are treated better than African Muslims imo.

True - all this talk about one brotherhood never quite matches the reality.

To use a phrase; 'Some are more equal than others'
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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #71 - August 07, 2009, 10:59 PM

Other Muslims are okay but it seems the Arabs have a real superiority complex which is based on the fact that scripture bigs them up. God is racist.

Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
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Re: A Question to Non-Arab Ex-Muslims (and Muslims)
Reply #72 - August 07, 2009, 11:13 PM

Meh. The best ones for me are White Muslims.

Asians and Arabs are similar in attitude to Africans. Arabs even worse

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