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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #90 - November 27, 2009, 10:29 PM
    Quote from: kaiwai on November 27, 2009, 06:57 AM
    If Pakistan renounced Islam tomorrow and all Pakistani's became agnostics - it still wouldn't change a backwards people. Cousin marriage, honour killings etc. would still be rampant but now done under a different name.

    Wrong Kaiwai. India has done great leaps and bounds to counter the preference for baby boys. Almost murder for a doctor to perform unnecessary abortions on girls. Clamped hard on the caste system. Made it illegal for a family to demand a dowry to marry there Son. Even though the bad habits were often deeply entrenched in their culture/religion.

    Same people, same race, different country.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #91 - November 27, 2009, 10:42 PM
    Yeah, very true.

    There will always be problems in any society. The thing is how a society is able to identify and tacke problems. When an absolutist and rigid faith like Islam gets added to the mix, existing problems gain divine approval for many and it becomes impossible to even identify as problems let alone solve.

    If Islam dissappeared magically tommorow from Pakistan, the gov't or other groups can be free to tackle these problems head on without the worry of takfirization of having to deal with religions fanaticism.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #92 - November 28, 2009, 07:50 AM
    Quote from: Tommy on November 27, 2009, 07:31 PM
    Looking forward to it  Smiley


    Ah Tommy, Bangladesh would be a place I could happily love if only millions from there didn't immigrate illegally into my country, whenever I travel inside India-to Jaipur, Agra, Delhi, I see illegal Bangladeshi immigrants, not to mention the Bangladeshis I saw in Dhaka who were very cooly telling us that they have relatives settled in India & they know that its very "easy" to go & settle there, which they plan on doing someday.

    I know I make people angry & uncomfortable if I don't walk on eggshells with regard to Islam but non Muslims too are humans, they don't have endless capacity for tolerance & forgiveness. Its difficult to have Zoroastrian grandparents driven away from Pakistan leaving all their hard earned prperty behind simply for beimg non Muslim, as Pakistan was being created into an Islamic nation, but see millions of Bangladeshis happily settle wherever they want to in India, difficult not to praise Jews when I see how the Muslim community grows in Israel, while Pakistani non Muslims dwindle. Makes me angry to think how Danny Pearl & the Jewish family in the Mumbai Massacre was butchered for being Jewish by Pakistani terorists, while they live in a nation cleansed of many more millions of kaffirs.


    Strange to see that Turks settle all over Europe & never take non Muslim formerly colonized folks in, when it was a huge colonizing power itself, far from being colonized & they never acknowledge the holocaust of a million Armenians, while hating & foaming at the mouth at little Israel.

    Anyway, these truths hurt & anger not just Muslims, also ex Muslims.
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #93 - November 28, 2009, 08:13 AM
    Thats pretty true. Thats what scares me as a person with a Muslim name.. because there will be a boiling point or some event which turns the entire west and even places like Indian on Muslims. Naturally it will be something caused by these terrorists, but also by the silent complacency of the Muslim community at large. Fuck, what an irony it would be if I get carted off to Aushwitz part deux one day because of the crimes of a religious demonination I don't even believe in.  Cry
    Quote from: thinkfree on September 28, 2010, 07:58 PM
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #94 - November 28, 2009, 10:47 AM
    Quote from: Rashna on November 28, 2009, 07:50 AM
    Ah Tommy, Bangladesh would be a place I could happily love if only millions from there didn't immigrate illegally into my country, whenever I travel inside India-to Jaipur, Agra, Delhi, I see illegal Bangladeshi immigrants, not to mention the Bangladeshis I saw in Dhaka who were very cooly telling us that they have relatives settled in India & they know that its very "easy" to go & settle there, which they plan on doing someday.

    I know I make people angry & uncomfortable if I don't walk on eggshells with regard to Islam but non Muslims too are humans, they don't have endless capacity for tolerance & forgiveness. Its difficult to have Zoroastrian grandparents driven away from Pakistan leaving all their hard earned prperty behind simply for beimg non Muslim, as Pakistan was being created into an Islamic nation, but see millions of Bangladeshis happily settle wherever they want to in India, difficult not to praise Jews when I see how the Muslim community grows in Israel, while Pakistani non Muslims dwindle. Makes me angry to think how Danny Pearl & the Jewish family in the Mumbai Massacre was butchered for being Jewish by Pakistani terorists, while they live in a nation cleansed of many more millions of kaffirs.


    Strange to see that Turks settle all over Europe & never take non Muslim formerly colonized folks in, when it was a huge colonizing power itself, far from being colonized & they never acknowledge the holocaust of a million Armenians, while hating & foaming at the mouth at little Israel.

    Anyway, these truths hurt & anger not just Muslims, also ex Muslims.

    Yeah, but werent you going to talk about the positive things in Bangadesh, like Tommy asked for?
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #95 - November 28, 2009, 11:02 AM
    Quote from: atheist.pk on November 27, 2009, 06:34 AM

    Its about making your future worth the while, and hopefully someday Pakistan will realise its potential to discard religion even if it causes the Jamaat-e-Islami etc to commit suicide. (I would love that too)

     Cheesy


    As far as I know, ironically even Jinnah wanted a secular state where people of all faiths were equal and saw themselves as being Pakistanis before they were Muslims, Hindus or any other faith.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #96 - November 28, 2009, 11:15 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on November 28, 2009, 10:47 AM
    Yeah, but werent you going to talk about the positive things in Bangadesh, like Tommy asked for?


    Ok, so you want something nice said about Bangladesh?

    Apparently they have nice tree's over there.

    If you give me more time I'm sure I can come up with more.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #97 - November 28, 2009, 11:50 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on November 28, 2009, 10:47 AM
    Yeah, but werent you going to talk about the positive things in Bangadesh, like Tommy asked for?


    Someday, I will.

    Allrught, I like love the cuisine, its my fave cuisine on earth, I love the variety of fish. I like Tagore & Najrulgeeti.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #98 - November 28, 2009, 11:59 AM
    Quote from: ras111 on November 28, 2009, 11:02 AM
    As far as I know, ironically even Jinnah wanted a secular state where people of all faiths were equal and saw themselves as being Pakistanis before they were Muslims, Hindus or any other faith.


    Well, thats not very easy to achieve if most members of other faiths have been cleansed.Like in Turkey, sure its secular, but then its non Muslim members were mass slaughtered in the Armenian Genocide, so only Muslims remain-Sunnis & Alevis.Turkey, which was a huge colonizing power, also doesn't take in millions of non Muslim immigrants from its former colonies, so there's no risk of its non Muslim population increasing via immigration. Unlike Turkey, Pakistan explicitly decided to be a state for Muslims & it cleansed out an overwhelming % of its non Muslim members-the results were not surprising given the nature of Islam & the movements in Islamic states in the past few decades.
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #99 - November 28, 2009, 12:20 PM
    Quote from: Rashna on November 28, 2009, 11:59 AM
    Well, thats not very easy to achieve if most members of other faiths have been cleansed.Like in Turkey, sure its secular, but then its non Muslim members were mass slaughtered in the Armenian Genocide, so only Muslims remain-Sunnis & Alevis.Turkey, which was a huge colonizing power, also doesn't take in millions of non Muslim immigrants from its former colonies, so there's no risk of its non Muslim population increasing via immigration. Unlike Turkey, Pakistan explicitly decided to be a state for Muslims & it cleansed out an overwhelming % of its non Muslim members-the results were not surprising given the nature of Islam & the movements in Islamic states in the past few decades.


    As regards Turkey, it was more about nationalism then religion, although yes religion also played a significant part in it.  I personally can't see why non Muslims would want to go to Turkey either when there are countries that are far better to live in.


    According to what I read, what happened in Pakistan and India was a population exchange, where Muslims went to Pakistan and non Muslims went to India.  To be honest I actually believe that it wasn't a bad idea at all, that they split and kept out of each others' way, considering the tensions that existed between the communities.  True many died, but then I also bet that many more would have lost their lives had it not happened. 

    It reminds me of Yugoslavia.  I personally think that its breaking up was also a good idea, as people are always going to put the interests of their own kind first.

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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #100 - November 28, 2009, 12:58 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on November 28, 2009, 12:20 PM

    According to what I read, what happened in Pakistan and India was a population exchange, where Muslims went to Pakistan and non Muslims went to India. 


    Lets' see, 14% of India is Muslim, 1%+ of Pakistanis are Hindu, what happened was that while Pakistan became an explicitly Islamic nation, India remained secular & a very significant share of the Muslim population of India didn't move out of India. So the majority of Pakistanis are Punjabis. Other than the border regions, Indians in South India, West India, Central India etc didn't move out at all-nor were they asked to move out of what would remain a "secular" India.Also, in case of Bangladeshis, millions came in again to settle in India. grin12

    So Muslims got their Islamic homeland, with extremely few non Muslims left, while non Muslim Pakistanis had to lose all their homes.

    Turkey could take in the Iraqi Christians or Albanian Christians-at least acknowledge the Armenian Genocide.
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #101 - November 28, 2009, 02:49 PM
    Quote from: Rashna on November 28, 2009, 12:58 PM
    Lets' see, 14% of India is Muslim, 1%+ of Pakistanis are Hindu, what happened was that while Pakistan became an explicitly Islamic nation, India remained secular & a very significant share of the Muslim population of India didn't move out of India. So the majority of Pakistanis are Punjabis. Other than the border regions, Indians in South India, West India, Central India etc didn't move out at all-nor were they asked to move out of what would remain a "secular" India.Also, in case of Bangladeshis, millions came in again to settle in India. grin12

    So Muslims got their Islamic homeland, with extremely few non Muslims left, while non Muslim Pakistanis had to lose all their homes.

    Turkey could take in the Iraqi Christians or Albanian Christians-at least acknowledge the Armenian Genocide.


    Granted, but would India have been free of conflict had the partition not occurred?  Would it have been better had it not happened, because I think it was safer in the long run.  That's what I'm asking...

    As regards Turkey, true you are right about the Armenian genocide.  And not just that but also the Assyrian and the Pontic Greek genocide.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #102 - November 28, 2009, 03:29 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on November 28, 2009, 02:49 PM
    Granted, but would India have been free of conflict had the partition not occurred?  Would it have been better had it not happened, because I think it was safer in the long run.  That's what I'm asking...

    As regards Turkey, true you are right about the Armenian genocide.  And not just that but also the Assyrian and the Pontic Greek genocide.


    It would probably have been worse, you're right about that.  Afro
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #103 - November 28, 2009, 07:19 PM
    Quote from: kaiwai on November 28, 2009, 11:15 AM

    Apparently they have nice tree's over there.



    Ah another fellow Bangladeshi tree lover. Sweet.

    Quote from: Rashna on November 28, 2009, 07:50 AM
    Ah Tommy, Bangladesh would be a place I could happily love if only millions from there didn't immigrate illegally into my country, whenever I travel inside India-to Jaipur, Agra, Delhi, I see illegal Bangladeshi immigrants, not to mention the Bangladeshis I saw in Dhaka who were very cooly telling us that they have relatives settled in India & they know that its very "easy" to go & settle there, which they plan on doing someday.

    I know I make people angry & uncomfortable if I don't walk on eggshells with regard to Islam but non Muslims too are humans, they don't have endless capacity for tolerance & forgiveness. Its difficult to have Zoroastrian grandparents driven away from Pakistan leaving all their hard earned prperty behind simply for beimg non Muslim, as Pakistan was being created into an Islamic nation, but see millions of Bangladeshis happily settle wherever they want to in India, difficult not to praise Jews when I see how the Muslim community grows in Israel, while Pakistani non Muslims dwindle. Makes me angry to think how Danny Pearl & the Jewish family in the Mumbai Massacre was butchered for being Jewish by Pakistani terorists, while they live in a nation cleansed of many more millions of kaffirs.


    Strange to see that Turks settle all over Europe & never take non Muslim formerly colonized folks in, when it was a huge colonizing power itself, far from being colonized & they never acknowledge the holocaust of a million Armenians, while hating & foaming at the mouth at little Israel.

    Anyway, these truths hurt & anger not just Muslims, also ex Muslims.


    I don't really have much to disagree with. I acknowledge that there are illegal Bangladeshis in India and elsewhere. Nice ranting as usual Rashna. Keep it up  Afro

    Quote from: IsLame on November 28, 2009, 10:47 AM
    Yeah, but werent you going to talk about the positive things in Bangadesh, like Tommy asked for?


    I actually didn't "ask" for it. I couldn't care less what her opinion (or anyone else's for that matter) of my home country is. I simply said "looking forward to it" because I was curious as to what she had to say.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #104 - November 28, 2009, 09:24 PM
    Quote from: Tommy on November 28, 2009, 07:19 PM
    I actually didn't "ask" for it. I couldn't care less what her opinion (or anyone else's for that matter) of my home country is. I simply said "looking forward to it" because I was curious as to what she had to say.

    So was I - but only because I was curious to see if her unbalanced approach had matured since we last were graced with her presence, obviously not with her 'trees & food' comment  Roll Eyes
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #105 - November 29, 2009, 05:09 AM
    Yeah I hear ya.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #106 - November 29, 2009, 07:03 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on November 28, 2009, 09:24 PM
    So was I - but only because I was curious to see if her unbalanced approach had matured since we last were graced with her presence, obviously not with her 'trees & food' comment  Roll Eyes


    Where did I mention trees please? You're confusing my & kaiwai's comment. Read those two again.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #107 - November 29, 2009, 08:32 AM
    Quote from: IsLame on November 28, 2009, 09:24 PM
    So was I - but only because I was curious to see if her unbalanced approach had matured since we last were graced with her presence, obviously not with her 'trees & food' comment  Roll Eyes


    She said nothing about tree's - I did Smiley

    I said tree's because give the circumstances at the moment, one would be scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something positive to talk about Bangladesh (or Pakistan for that matter).
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #108 - November 29, 2009, 08:40 AM
    Quote from: kaiwai on November 29, 2009, 08:32 AM
    I said tree's because give the circumstances at the moment, one would be scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something positive to talk about Bangladesh (or Pakistan for that matter).


    Not really. In regards to the Bangladeshi govt.--yeah. But in regards to the country as a whole (the people, the culture, food, and places to go) the only person who I can imagine would have to scrape the barrel is someone who has never really lived in BD before, nor experienced the culture. I say this in defense of any country, not just BD.

    Kinda firing your guns blindly there mate.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #109 - November 29, 2009, 08:46 AM
    @kawai

    Well I don't think thats fair. Bangladesh, as much of a shite-hole it is, has some good qualities:

    - Extremely green and lush land
    - Generally tolerant and peaceful people
    - Cuisine a balanced mix of indian and SE asian
    - Rich variety of regional foods (fruits, fish, veg, rice, meat)
    - Lots of slave labour and servants (if you're rich)
    - No Sharia law and somewhat secular
    - Lots of pirated software/dvs and cheap (fake) designer label clothes
    - Quick and cheap human-powered transportation (rickshaws)
    - Lots of water (unless your the villager living on the river banks)

    Ok.. I'm out. Damn that country is shitty lol.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #110 - November 29, 2009, 08:47 AM
    LMAO
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #111 - November 29, 2009, 09:07 AM
    Quote from: Kafirist on November 29, 2009, 08:46 AM
    @kawai

    Well I don't think thats fair. Bangladesh, as much of a shite-hole it is, has some good qualities:

    - Extremely green and lush land
    - Generally tolerant and peaceful people
    - Cuisine a balanced mix of indian and SE asian
    - Rich variety of regional foods (fruits, fish, veg, rice, meat)
    - Lots of slave labour and servants (if you're rich)
    - No Sharia law and somewhat secular
    - Lots of pirated software/dvs and cheap (fake) designer label clothes
    - Quick and cheap human-powered transportation (rickshaws)
    - Lots of water (unless your the villager living on the river banks)

    Ok.. I'm out. Damn that country is shitty lol.


    I guess it depends on what you define as 'tolerant and peaceful'. Tolerant as in, "we'll tolerate honour killings" and peaceful as in, "we won't suicide bomb a funeral procession"?
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #112 - November 29, 2009, 09:08 AM
    Relative to other Muslim countries and being a dirt-poor third world country.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #113 - November 29, 2009, 09:24 AM
    Quote from: Kafirist on November 29, 2009, 09:08 AM
    Relative to other Muslim countries and being a dirt-poor third world country.


    Whose dirt-poor-ness can be traced back to backwards religion (Islam) and a backwards culture. What you see is the result of what provides the underpinnings of society. If the underpinnings lacks quality nutrients and dirt (culture and religion), the plant (people) will never grow to its full capacity. The plant isn't defective - its the underlying foundations that are.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #114 - November 29, 2009, 09:30 AM
    I like you Kawaii.. but that is the stupidest analysis about a third-world country that I've heard. Hindu Bengal next door is just as shitty and they haven't been run or influenced by Islam for over 200+ years. Hindu India in general has precisely the same problems of over-population and corruption. Vietnam, Laos, Burma and Cambodia have the same problems as Bangladesh too. No real influence of Islam in any of those places. The entirety of Christian Africa are even shittier than Bangladesh, no history of Islam there at all.

    We're all critics of Islam here and we can agree it's a highly negative influence. But there comes a point when you drive over a cliff in your zeal to bash the religion and simply find blame where there are none. A nation is a very complex entity and saying X factor is solely to blame for issues A to Z is pretty dumb.

    It's obvious you don't know a lot about Bangladesh, we're not a middle-eastern country.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #115 - November 29, 2009, 12:07 PM
    Quote from: Kafirist on November 29, 2009, 09:30 AM
    I like you Kawaii.. but that is the stupidest analysis about a third-world country that I've heard. Hindu Bengal next door is just as shitty and they haven't been run or influenced by Islam for over 200+ years. Hindu India in general has precisely the same problems of over-population and corruption.


    Well, to be fair kafirist, you perhaps need to explain the shittiness of next door India to the Bangladeshis, so that they stop coming here in such huge numbers( And trust me, its huge numbers, I've met way too many, I know them all by their accent), I've been to Kolkata & a lot of the people on the streets making the place shitty have very Bangladeshi accents, I've spoken to such a family on the street who honestly told me they'd immigrated only some years back Also, I've seen Bangladeshis living in Mumbai slums & telling me that they work in so & so hotel.

    So please, with due respect, as you rightly recognize how shitty India is, I hope this message can be passed onto the Bangladeshis as well, coz as you said, all the problems of poverty, corruption & over population do exist in India too, we're not in a position to do charity to a lot of people, who don't bring many valuable skill sets with them & who, unlike Afghanistan, don't live in some war torn nation but in a reasonably thriving democracy. We have difficulty enough providing for all the citizens who do live here, we can scarcely manage to provide for all sorts of unskilled migrants, nor should we feel any obligation to do so, given that there's no real war or turmoil brewing in Bangladesh.

    Looks like the knowledge of India's shittyness hasn't reached the millions of illegal Bangladeshi immigrants.  Wink
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #116 - November 29, 2009, 12:47 PM
    Quote from: Tommy on November 29, 2009, 08:40 AM
    Not really. In regards to the Bangladeshi govt.--yeah. But in regards to the country as a whole (the people, the culture, food, and places to go) the only person who I can imagine would have to scrape the barrel is someone who has never really lived in BD before, nor experienced the culture. I say this in defense of any country, not just BD.

    Kinda firing your guns blindly there mate.


    As I said, I found BD decent, people are extremely hospitable, a white woman, or may white women can walk around in itsy bitsy bits without being(in general) harassed, something which is a problem in some non Western nations, I like the habits of reading & general religious & ethnic tolerance. I like the fact that one of my friends' aunt's a lesbian, settled in USA with another African American lesbian, & her religious Muslim family still love & welcome that aunt.

    However, as I said to kafirist, I really don't see that much reason to be very welcoming of any illegal immigrants, given that its not that we were Bangladesh's past colonizers, India itself is quite a poor nation & Bangladesh isn't in any sort of turmoil, so if we have a bit more I think its fair that India's people should benefit from those, than any illegal immigrants. I also don't like groups like Islamist terrorist group Huji(Harkat ul Jihad Islami) operating from BD in India, especially if they plant terrorist attacks in India's tourism hubs like Jaipur & drive away all the foreign tourists, adversely affecting incomes. Also, they don't bring any valuable contributions, which would make it somewhat worthwhile, they take the most unskilled jobs which should rightly belong to an Indian, or live in the streets of the bigger cities doing not much, but dirtying the cities.

    India too  has enough of such problems from its own citizens, we're in no position economically of supporting anyone else, nor is there any obligation on us to do that, given there's no history of past colonizations & an only bit better economic situation whose fruits should go to its own citizens.
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #117 - November 29, 2009, 01:20 PM
    Quote from: Rashna on November 29, 2009, 12:47 PM

     India itself is quite a poor nation


    Nothing to do with what you are discussing about illegal immigration, that's not my business and I can understand your point, but I find it a bit absurd that India in spite of its poverty still has funds to finance its own space program.  
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  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #118 - November 29, 2009, 01:36 PM
    Quote from: ras111 on November 29, 2009, 01:20 PM
    Nothing to do with what you are discussing about illegal immigration, that's not my business and I can understand your point, but I find it a bit absurd that India in spite of its poverty still has funds to finance its own space program. 

    Well, India's space program is a red herring here.

    Bangladesh has a space agency too.

    I personally think India shouldn't be funding many space programs either.
    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Why I am also sick of Bangladeshi society...
     Reply #119 - November 29, 2009, 03:01 PM
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    I personally think India shouldn't be funding many space programs either.


    why not?
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