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  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #120 - August 04, 2009, 09:46 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on August 04, 2009, 09:13 PM
    No, you give them more details - why are you behaving like a dick head?


    dodn't he said he is not an atheist?
    please read my blog, read how islam will win
    the clash of civilization.

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  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #121 - August 04, 2009, 10:18 PM
    Quote from: kope on August 04, 2009, 09:46 PM
    dodn't he said he is not an atheist?


    Dodn't I tell you to shut up and don't talk to me?
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #122 - August 04, 2009, 11:03 PM
    Quote from: kope on August 04, 2009, 09:46 PM
    dodn't he said he is not an atheist?

    What a stupid thing to say
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  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #123 - August 05, 2009, 06:29 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on August 04, 2009, 09:11 PM
    Where did God say that?

     What I mean, ?The human being is My secret, and I am his secret.? (Hadith Qudsi)

    [Quran Qaf 50:16] ? ?We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein. ?

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    Are you Alawi? Or some other Shi'ah sect that believes God is incarnate in some descendant of Muhammad?

     I am not Alawi, Shi?ah, Shiite etc?.  Smiley

    Pls don?t grasp the idea only a descendent of Muhammad being a God incarnate. Supreme Being were born not for one family or one nation or race, but verily for all mankind. In other word God manifests in every form and to recognize and praise the beauty of God as manifested in all His creation.
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #124 - August 05, 2009, 06:32 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on August 04, 2009, 09:13 PM
    No, you give them more details - why are you behaving like a dick head? Just say what you believe?

    Are you embarrassed about what you believe or what?

     It?s some kind of the mystic order called a ?Knight of Purity? (veiled prophets of the enchanted realm), was carried on by Abu Bakr and Ali and their successors, who were called Mursheed, Chistiya, Pir-o-Murshid, Hazrat, Sheikh, etc., one after another, duly connected as links in a chain.

    In the Quran [11:73] They said: "Dost thou wonder at Allah's decree? The grace of Allah and His blessings on you, O ye people of the house! for He is indeed worthy of all praise, full of all glory!"

    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #125 - August 05, 2009, 06:33 AM
    Quote from: RIBS on August 04, 2009, 09:19 PM
    He said Bayat and not Bayt. I speak Arabic and did not get what he meant by Bayat!!!
    Bayt is correct ... It means Home!

    It depends upon in which region of the world you live in.  Bayat, Bayt, Baait  or else.
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #126 - August 05, 2009, 06:34 AM
    Quote from: Hassan on August 04, 2009, 09:20 PM
    I think he made a mistake. He's probably not an Arabic speaker.

    Correct, I am neither an Arabic speaker nor an Arab.  grin12
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #127 - August 05, 2009, 07:44 AM
    Quote from: S.A.M on August 05, 2009, 06:29 AM
    What I mean, ?The human being is My secret, and I am his secret.? (Hadith Qudsi)

    [Quran Qaf 50:16] ? ?We are nearer to him than (his) jugular vein. ?
     I am not Alawi, Shi?ah, Shiite etc?.  Smiley

    Pls don?t grasp the idea only a descendent of Muhammad being a God incarnate. Supreme Being were born not for one family or one nation or race, but verily for all mankind. In other word God manifests in every form and to recognize and praise the beauty of God as manifested in all His creation.



    Interesting - so you are kind of Sufi - or at least share the beliefs of some Sufis that God can be incarnate within us (Like Hallaj when he shouted "Ana Allah, Ana Allah - I am Allah I am Allah...)

    Though you of course you do know that you will be regarded as a heretic by most Muslims following orthodox Islam?


  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #128 - August 05, 2009, 07:46 AM
    Quote from: S.A.M on August 05, 2009, 06:32 AM
    It?s some kind of the mystic order called a ?Knight of Purity? (veiled prophets of the enchanted realm), was carried on by Abu Bakr and Ali and their successors, who were called Mursheed, Chistiya, Pir-o-Murshid, Hazrat, Sheikh, etc., one after another, duly connected as links in a chain.

    In the Quran [11:73] They said: "Dost thou wonder at Allah's decree? The grace of Allah and His blessings on you, O ye people of the house! for He is indeed worthy of all praise, full of all glory!"


    The Knights of Purity?

    Never heard of them - but lotsa luck with that  Afro
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #129 - August 05, 2009, 07:48 AM
    Interesting, sometimes when I choose to suspend my disbelief and believe in God, I am Him. Grin

    http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=2924.msg85276#msg85276
    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #130 - August 05, 2009, 08:09 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on August 05, 2009, 07:44 AM
    Interesting - so you are kind of Sufi - or at least share the beliefs of some Sufis that God can be incarnate within us (Like Hallaj when he shouted "Ana Allah, Ana Allah - I am Allah I am Allah...)

    Yeah?..I know him a famous Sufi of the 10th Century, Mansur Al-Hallaj. He was executed in 922 AD for having stated: Anal Al-Haq..I am the Truth.

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    Though you of course you do know that you will be regarded as a heretic by most Muslims following orthodox Islam?

    I was accused of being heretics  Cry by Muslim as an Apostate, Atheist, Kafr (Unbeliever) and so on. It doesn?t matter to me. For me the most important thing between Supreme Being and me. As Allah has said:

    I am as My servant thinks of Me, and I am with him when he remembers Me. If he remembers Me in private, I remember him within Myself. If he remembers me in company, I remember him in better company.
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #131 - August 05, 2009, 08:13 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on August 05, 2009, 07:46 AM
    The Knights of Purity?

    Never heard of them - but lotsa luck with that  Afro

    I'm still progressing and hopefully getting better as a Purity of thoughts.  thnkyu
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #132 - August 05, 2009, 08:35 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on August 05, 2009, 08:09 PM
    Yeah?..I know him a famous Sufi of the 10th Century, Mansur Al-Hallaj. He was executed in 922 AD for having stated: Anal Al-Haq..I am the Truth.
    I was accused of being heretics  Cry by Muslim as an Apostate, Atheist, Kafr (Unbeliever) and so on. It doesn?t matter to me. For me the most important thing between Supreme Being and me. As Allah has said:

    You've been an atheist b4?
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  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #133 - August 05, 2009, 08:41 PM
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    You've been an atheist b4?

     Almost...  Wink
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #134 - August 05, 2009, 08:59 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on August 05, 2009, 08:09 PM
    ...Anal Al-Haq..I am the Truth.....


    Anal what? I think you are in the wrong thread! Cheesy
    ...
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #135 - August 05, 2009, 09:02 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on August 05, 2009, 08:41 PM
    Almost...  Wink

    So what made you become an atheist and why did you leave it?
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  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #136 - August 06, 2009, 06:24 AM
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    So what made you become an atheist and why did you leave it?

    I almost became an atheist because I don?t want to be dogma and blindly believe in God and religion follow something that didn't have a shred of any real proof just because other people are doing it.
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #137 - August 06, 2009, 07:31 AM
    Quote from: S.A.M on August 06, 2009, 06:24 AM
    I almost became an atheist because I don?t want to be dogma and blindly believe in God and religion follow something that didn't have a shred of any real proof just because other people are doing it.

    and then you decided to do just that  Huh?
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  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #138 - August 06, 2009, 07:35 AM
    To be fair to SAM, I don't think he's quite like other (orthodox) Muslims anymore, in fact when he first showed up he confused the hell out of us at FFI because it was so hard to extract his beliefs and ideas.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #139 - August 06, 2009, 07:37 AM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on August 06, 2009, 07:35 AM
    To be fair to SAM, I don't think he's quite like other (orthodox) Muslims anymore, in fact when he first showed up he confused the hell out of us at FFI because it was so hard to extract his beliefs and ideas.

     Cheesy That didnt happen here, did it?

    I'll ask you as it will probably be a lot easier.  Why is he not open about his beliefs?
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  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #140 - August 06, 2009, 07:42 AM
    I really couldn't give you an accurate answer

    Although my guess is that he sees Islam failing and falling in the minds of many so he found a formula that works (both to alleviate his conscience and doubts and to answer some of the questions about absurdities, inconsistencies et al) and he is sticking to that as a survival mechanism. Maybe he knows that without it he would fall as well.

    I don't think dear SAM would like the thought of being punished in hell for not sticking to his beliefs.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #141 - August 06, 2009, 11:40 AM
    IMHO that is a pretty good analysis FF  Afro
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #142 - August 06, 2009, 09:55 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 06, 2009, 07:31 AM
    and then you decided to do just that  Huh?

    So, what else do you want me to believe?
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #143 - August 06, 2009, 09:56 PM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on August 06, 2009, 07:35 AM
    To be fair to SAM, I don't think he's quite like other (orthodox) Muslims anymore, in fact when he first showed up he confused the hell out of us at FFI because it was so hard to extract his beliefs and ideas.

    hmmmm...Impressive, isn?t it?  Smiley
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #144 - August 06, 2009, 10:00 PM
    Well, when something's that difficult to grasp and so highly complicated for no reason it's usually because of another factor, but if it makes you feel happy then yes, it was impressive.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #145 - August 06, 2009, 10:01 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 06, 2009, 07:37 AM
    Cheesy That didnt happen here, did it?

    I'll ask you as it will probably be a lot easier.  Why is he not open about his beliefs?

    ... Chilling
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #146 - August 06, 2009, 10:09 PM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on August 06, 2009, 10:00 PM
    Well, when something's that difficult to grasp and so highly complicated for no reason it's usually because of another factor, but if it makes you feel happy then yes, it was impressive.

    You have failed, to convince me that Islam is a false religion.
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #147 - August 06, 2009, 10:16 PM
    Quote from: S.A.M on August 06, 2009, 09:55 PM
    So, what else do you want me to believe?

    You believe what makes sense to you.  

    Its just that you have chosen to believe in it despite what you used to think below, sounds to me like you have gone backwards!

    Quote from: S.A.M on August 06, 2009, 06:24 AM
    I almost became an atheist because I don't want to be dogma and blindly believe in God and religion follow something that didn't have a shred of any real proof just because other people are doing it.

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  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #148 - August 06, 2009, 10:40 PM
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    Its just that you have chosen to believe in it despite what you used to think below, sounds to me like you have gone backwards!

     Yeah...backwards and begin to go forward in one's interest. grin12
    Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path). (al-Baqarah 2:18)
  • Re: Introduce myself
     Reply #149 - August 06, 2009, 10:50 PM
    Unless you stop talking in riddles, I am gonna devote less interest and time in trying to understand any points you have to make. 
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