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  • Women praying in congregation
     OP - August 03, 2009, 06:30 PM

    Now, as far as I was led to believe, it is permissible for women to pray in their own congregation as long as the woman acting as imam stood in line with the women in the front row but lately I have seen many fatawa discouraging women from praying in congregation and urging them to pray in the darkest, dankest closets of their homes.  Since when did praying in congregation become makruh for women?  Things like this really burn me up!  Flaming mad

    from Ask Imam: http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=7a7619bf4ffd7fb4af6315e4e11676cc
    [qoute]Question
          

    Is it permissible for women to pray taraweeh salah in their own congregation?
     
    Answer
          

    In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

    It is makrūh tahrīmi for women to perform salāt in congregation. This is a general rule and includes all salāt, whether fardh or nafl. Janāzah salāt is however an exception to this, but in certain circumstances only. This is the verdict of our Fuqahā and Muslim Jurists.

     

    The Fuqahā have stated two reasons for impermissibility (Makrūh Tahrīmi). Firstly, congregational salāt demands that the Imām stands at the front of the congregation. If a woman stands as Imām, it will be inappropriate for her to stand at the front, as she will be exposing herself. Secondly, if she stands in the first saff (row) with her muqtadi?s, she would not be observing the etiquette of an Imām (i.e. to stand at the front of the congregation).

    *Love the circular logic used here*

                 

    Furthermore, Rasulullāh (sallallāhu alayhi wa sallam) has stated: ?Salāt of a woman performed in the darkest (inner most area) of her house is most beloved to Allāh? (Sahih Ibn Khuzaimah). Ibn Hummān (rahimahullāh) comments on this Hadīth and states that for women to host congregational salāts in the darkest (innermost portion) of their homes is not possible. Hence, the Hadīth advises women to perform salāt individually rather than in congregation.

     

    Women that have memorised the qurān and desire to recite it in tarāwīh salāt, are encouraged to do so, however individually. It will not be permissible for them to perform tarawīh salāt in congregation, as congregation salāt for women is not permissible. This has been the verdict of our Fuqahā and Mufti?s like, Mufti ?Azizur Rahmān Deobandi, Mufti Mahmūdul Hassan Ganghohi, Mufti Abdur Rahīm Lājpuri and Mufti Yūsuf Ludyānwi (Rahimahumullāh). [/quote]

    *All emphasis is mine.

    Really, I think these hair brained beardos are just afraid of large groups of women coming together and using their collective noodle to instigate a plan to overthrow these misogynistic twerps!

    Okay, that's my rant for the day. Wink

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  • Re: Women praying in congregation
     Reply #1 - August 03, 2009, 06:34 PM

    Askimam is a hanafi Barelvi website, and Barelvis discourage women from praying in the mosque. There is this hadith about praying in the darkest corner of your house, but there are also other hadith about women praying in congregation in the mosque.

    It looks like this religion which was perfected and made clear to us, wasn't made that clear!

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  • Re: Women praying in congregation
     Reply #2 - August 03, 2009, 06:35 PM

    Yeah, agreed.  They seem horrified by any gathering of women even for prayer.  Plus, there's this...........

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    Salāt of a woman performed in the darkest (inner most area) of her house is most beloved to Allāh?


    Such a creepy mentality.  Gives me a mental image of Allah watching a woman pray and muttering "It rubs the lotion on its skin."

    "Befriend them not, Oh murtads, and give them neither parrot nor bunny."  - happymurtad's advice on trolls.
  • Re: Women praying in congregation
     Reply #3 - August 03, 2009, 09:52 PM

    The Fuqahā have stated two reasons for impermissibility (Makrūh Tahrīmi). Firstly, congregational salāt demands that the Imām stands at the front of the congregation. If a woman stands as Imām, it will be inappropriate for her to stand at the front, as she will be exposing herself.

    Since when is it un-Islamic for a woman to be visible to other women?

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  • Re: Women praying in congregation
     Reply #4 - August 05, 2009, 08:07 PM

    Now, as far as I was led to believe, it is permissible for women to pray in their own congregation as long as the woman acting as imam stood in line with the women in the front row but lately I have seen many fatawa discouraging women from praying in congregation and urging them to pray in the darkest, dankest closets of their homes.  Since when did praying in congregation become makruh for women?  Things like this really burn me up!  Flaming mad

    from Ask Imam: http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.php?askid=7a7619bf4ffd7fb4af6315e4e11676cc
    [qoute]Question
          

    Is it permissible for women to pray taraweeh salah in their own congregation?
     
    Answer
          

    In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

    It is makrūh tahrīmi for women to perform salāt in congregation.  (etc and so on)


    It is makruh for women to pray in a women-only congregation in the Hanafi mazhab, and I believe in the Maliki as well (or Hanbali, not sure).  In my life whenever there was a gathering of women and the prayer time comes around, all the women prayed individually, not together because almost all of them were Hanafis in fiqh.

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