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 Topic: Sharia? Would you live with it?

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  • Sharia? Would you live with it?
     OP - August 13, 2009, 03:00 PM

    I'm curious, and yet I'm certain I will receive a lot of complaints about this.

    If Britain accepted sharia law officially, even having the "infidel" laws alongside; What would be your opinion? Would you protest, or accept living in this system? Submit, but secretly "protesting"?

    If Britain replaced the entire law with sharia? What would be your take?


    Would you accept living in such a system? What exactly would be your reaction? Would you "disrespect" such laws in subtle ways, like drinking beer, or eat pork...or criticize islam?

    If instead of Britain was your current country of residence? What would you do if it was another country(not Britain, or your current country of residence)?

    Do you think woman would be allowed to have the same freedoms? If not, what exactly would disappear of their current freedom in your view? Would you support a government that makes it lawful to marry any child of any age and consume it at any age?

    What if all this was democratically voted by muslims and muslim supporters? If not, what would be your take if all this was achieved my subtle changes of laws by muslims in power, or even by force?

    Would scientific advancement still occur? Would evolution still be taught in school? If so, why do you think evolution would still be allowed?

    I'm interested to know your current opinion of those questions, what would exactly be your reaction and thoughts.


    edit: Forgot to add this.
    How much sharia would you accept? What if all this was implanted in one city, state or whatever in a western country... or what would you feel if this was implanted in your city or state? Or created a especial state for them in your country?

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes" Gene Roddenberry
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #1 - August 13, 2009, 03:06 PM

    If all the countries in the world accepted the Sharia, except for Kenya.
    I would take the first flight available...
    Sharia is no option for me.

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  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #2 - August 13, 2009, 03:17 PM

    I'm curious, and yet I'm certain I will receive a lot of complaints about this.

    If Britain accepted sharia law officially, even having the "infidel" laws alongside; What would be your opinion? Would you protest, or accept living in this system? Submit, but secretly "protesting"?

    If Britain replaced the entire law with sharia? What would be your take?


    Would you accept living in such a system? What exactly would be your reaction? Would you "disrespect" such laws in subtle ways, like drinking beer, or eat pork...or criticize islam?

    If instead of Britain was your current country of residence? What would you do if it was another country(not Britain, or your current country of residence)?

    Do you think woman would be allowed to have the same freedoms? If not, what exactly would disappear of their current freedom in your view? Would you support a government that makes it lawful to marry any child of any age and consume it at any age?

    What if all this was democratically voted by muslims and muslim supporters? If not, what would be your take if all this was achieved my subtle changes of laws by muslims in power, or even by force?

    Would scientific advancement still occur? Would evolution still be taught in school? If so, why do you think evolution would still be allowed?

    I'm interested to know your current opinion of those questions, what would exactly be your reaction and thoughts.


    edit: Forgot to add this.
    How much sharia would you accept? What if all this was implanted in one city, state or whatever in a western country... or what would you feel if this was implanted in your city or state? Or created a especial state for them in your country?


    I think, firstly, Britain would not allow sharia to be the law of the country, if anything were to be changed in the law they may allow sharia to an additional law for the muslim citizens. Although I doubt Britain would allow that as it would cause more confusion and chaos, wouldnt there be a clash between the current british laws, such as coercian and the law in sharia about the penlty of leaving ones religion is death? and possibly other similar cases.

    Plus, I mean c'mon, letting islam have it's own law? Do you think the jews, hindu's christians, and other religions would start wanting their own laws? How do you think they would react?

    If Britain were to employ sharia then I would probably be in trouble, since my plans are to become open about my disbelief in islam sometime in the future. lol

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #3 - August 13, 2009, 03:28 PM

    Britain is not going to impose sharia law, despite what the sun might tell you.

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #4 - August 13, 2009, 03:28 PM

    I think, firstly, Britain would not allow sharia to be the law of the country, if anything were to be changed in the law they may allow sharia to an additional law for the muslim citizens. Although I doubt Britain would allow that as it would cause more confusion and chaos, wouldnt there be a clash between the current british laws, such as coercian and the law in sharia about the penlty of leaving ones religion is death? and possibly other similar cases.

    Plus, I mean c'mon, letting islam have it's own law? Do you think the jews, hindu's christians, and other religions would start wanting their own laws? How do you think they would react?

    If Britain were to employ sharia then I would probably be in trouble, since my plans are to become open about my disbelief in islam sometime in the future. lol


    Take it as a "what if..." scenario. Because currently Britain have Sharia Courts for small claims, like divorce.


    I dont know how the would react, as I'm not a follower of any of those, this is the reason why I posted this here; To know your opinion, ex-muslims, hindu's, christians, jews...or any other set of belief in the forum, including atheists as well(I'm one, but I'm still curious to know other people's opinion)

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes" Gene Roddenberry
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #5 - August 13, 2009, 03:29 PM

    Britain is not going to impose sharia law, despite what the sun might tell you.


    Take it as a "what if..." scenario.

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes" Gene Roddenberry
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #6 - August 13, 2009, 03:36 PM

    Take it as a "what if..." scenario. Because currently Britain have Sharia Courts for small claims, like divorce.


    That is in civil law, and not in criminal law. And it is not just Sharia. To quote Cheetah -

    If by 'we' you mean the UK, what you have is a legal system in which anybody can choose their own form of arbitration in a civil dispute, including Sharia Law.  The Jewish people in Britain have been doing that for years with their own religious courts.  Not that big a deal.



    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #7 - August 13, 2009, 03:51 PM

    I'm curious, and yet I'm certain I will receive a lot of complaints about this.



    Err why exactly do you think you will recieve a lot of complaints about this topic?  wacko

    For the record I am anti sharia law, but I am also anti religious courts period.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #8 - August 13, 2009, 04:12 PM

    I dont know how the would react, as I'm not a follower of any of those, this is the reason why I posted this here; To know your opinion, ex-muslims, hindu's, christians, jews...or any other set of belief in the forum, including atheists as well(I'm one, but I'm still curious to know other people's opinion)


    I can't imagine anyone here saying: "I think accepting the Sharia would be a great idea!".
    We are to be put to death if the Sharia is accepted.

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  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #9 - August 13, 2009, 05:34 PM

    I would honestly rather die than accept a state-religious law in any country, the current system in the UK doesn't count, I mean a full on version like Taliban Shariah or the Christian type found in South Africa during apartheid or any other full on religious text based law.

    Depending on family circumstances/finances/career etc I would either emmigrate elsewhere, join the physical or political resistence movement or just end it all.

    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #10 - August 13, 2009, 06:03 PM

    I would not accept it if Sharia ever got used in UK in all of its 'glory'
    I'd emigrate to US or Canada.

    Just to be clear i am not only against sharia law. I am firmly against ANY form of religious law, i do not care if it Hindu, Jewish or Christian. One law for all, the British law and everyone should be happy with it.

    Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence

  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #11 - August 13, 2009, 06:07 PM

    +1

    However I'd be off to Northern Europe instead of the US or Canada. Somewhere like Sweden, Norway or Denmark. What's more worrying though, is if the next monarch embraces Islam. Cry
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #12 - August 13, 2009, 06:12 PM

    Err why exactly do you think you will recieve a lot of complaints about this topic?  wacko

    For the record I am anti sharia law, but I am also anti religious courts period.


    Because of my previous topic, and the reaction. Maybe it was my fault for not explaining what I meant properly... But I was, somehow, still expecting the same "complaints"

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes" Gene Roddenberry
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #13 - August 13, 2009, 06:14 PM

    So, form the replies I'm getting here, is it safe to assume that not even 1% of sharia is acceptable?

    Thank you for the replies.

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes" Gene Roddenberry
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #14 - August 13, 2009, 06:15 PM

    To me, no, not even 1%, it is that vile to me.

    Inhale the good shit, exhale the bullshit.
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #15 - August 13, 2009, 06:16 PM

    I would not accept sharia. Like others, I'd prefer to move to the US or somewhere if that happened, but dealing with family is another matter.

    "Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom." - Viktor E. Frankl

    'Life is just the extreme expression of complex chemistry' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #16 - August 13, 2009, 06:17 PM

    On a more philosophical level, a set of laws based on someones interpretation of divine revelation can never bond  a multicultural society together, simply because most people don't accept the basis of those laws.

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #17 - August 13, 2009, 08:18 PM

    Even if they divided a western country? For example, divide half of France for the islamic laws, or some island in the UK or somwehre else?


    Personally, not even 0.1% I would accept. I find islam a vile and barbaric religion; I wouldnt even support if it was only related to muslims or divorce cases, because a woman would always lose.

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes" Gene Roddenberry
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #18 - August 13, 2009, 08:25 PM

    A woman is at the mercy of the husband anyway in an islamic marriage. The tripple talaq is an abuse of human rights. However as a non-muslim husband to a muslim wife, would she take it seriously if you said it to her in jest? Even when she knows that "islamically" your nikkah is invalid anyway upon apostasy.
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #19 - August 13, 2009, 09:54 PM

    I don't agree to Shari'ah in the UK - even to a limited extent.

    But Shari'ah courts already exist to a limited and voluntary extent - to hear marriage disputes etc... Like I say, I'd rather they didn't exist at all - but I can live with them just like I can live with the Jewish courts.

    I cannot live with Shari'ah being implemented in it's entirety - but that will never happen in the UK.
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #20 - August 13, 2009, 11:03 PM

    Oh well at least you could buy some slaves from the local slave market and have an orgy

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #21 - August 14, 2009, 01:29 AM

    Oh well at least you could buy some slaves from the local slave market and have an orgy


    That...that...that... is a bloody great idea!!  dance thnkyu thnkyu dance grin12

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes" Gene Roddenberry
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #22 - September 12, 2009, 08:41 PM

    just watch the first half
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngJ4MTeH14k&feature=related

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  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #23 - September 12, 2009, 08:55 PM

    If all the countries in the world accepted the Sharia, except for Kenya.
    I would take the first flight available...
    Sharia is no option for me.


    +1

    I live in this country only because of the freedom of speech and thought. If the UK loses civil liberties and bows in front of Islamists, then I will leave and never look back - like I left Pakistan 10 years ago and never looked back.
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #24 - September 12, 2009, 08:57 PM

    Quote
    Sharia? Would you live with it?


    Not in a million years.

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  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #25 - September 12, 2009, 09:00 PM

    could you execution the executioner?

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  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #26 - September 12, 2009, 09:02 PM

    scary shit  wacko

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  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #27 - September 12, 2009, 09:02 PM

    Glenn Beck is a fucking retard.  Roll Eyes

    I chose to get circumcised at 17, don't tell me I never believed.
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #28 - September 13, 2009, 07:42 AM

    I hate Shariah and anything remotely related to religious laws, and I will never accept it in any shape or form.

    But at the same time, I will never buy into this whole "Eurabia" bullshit said by the tabloids and the whole "Britain will become a Shariah state" etc because frankly it cant be implemented based on some visible minority living in certain urban areas rather than everywhere.

    Its all ignorant panic & scaremongering to me.

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Sharia? Would you live with it?
     Reply #29 - September 13, 2009, 12:37 PM

      Thinking hard




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