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  • Ramadhan Thread
     OP - August 23, 2009, 07:56 PM
    I thought I would do the honours and start a thread so that anyone (especially closet ex-muslims, as they are probably having to partake in Ramadhan) can vent their frustrations about anything Ramadhan related!

    I'll start. I was at home all day today and all I ate was one shami kebab, a block of chocolate, and a slice of cheese! It is so difficult trying to eat on the sly!
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #1 - August 23, 2009, 07:59 PM
    I've just convinced my family that I am medically except which is partially true so now I have to pay fitranah. But its money to charity so I don't mind that.
    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #2 - August 23, 2009, 08:17 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on August 23, 2009, 07:56 PM
    I thought I would do the honours and start a thread so that anyone (especially closet ex-muslims, as they are probably having to partake in Ramadhan) can vent their frustrations about anything Ramadhan related!

    I'll start. I was at home all day today and all I ate was one shami kebab, a block of chocolate, and a slice of cheese! It is so difficult trying to eat on the sly!


    well depending on where u live, just say u have to pick up books or something?

    I'm going to do my pity-fake-fast tomorrow and i'm going the the uni so i should be fine =] of course I won't eat an hour prior to coming home so it'll look like i'm "dying" ahah
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #3 - August 23, 2009, 08:35 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on August 23, 2009, 07:56 PM
    I thought I would do the honours and start a thread so that anyone (especially closet ex-muslims, as they are probably having to partake in Ramadhan) can vent their frustrations about anything Ramadhan related!

    I'll start. I was at home all day today and all I ate was one shami kebab, a block of chocolate, and a slice of cheese! It is so difficult trying to eat on the sly!


    Wow! I'm so glad I don't have that issue. I don't even want to invite anyone for iftaar because I'm that pissed with the whole thing!
  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #4 - August 23, 2009, 10:13 PM
    I stayed up for sehri last night, and I broke my "fast" early at about 5pm with a nice chicken tikka footlong Subway.

    I was woken up for sehri today, and I actually kept the fast.  ie I didn't eat or drink a drop of water til iftar.

    I have to go work tomorrow.  I'm sure I'll end up eating on the sly, or maybe I won't?  All depends on the mood.

    I agree it is bloody annoying though.  Sehri is the worst bit, I hate waking up for sehri!  furious
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #5 - August 23, 2009, 10:26 PM
    Eating in the night is the stupidest idea ever, it lets you feel groggy in the Morning and your stomach hurts while you try and fall back asleep. Ridiculous.

    The worst thing though has to be the Rammadhanian hypocracy. Rammadhan is supposedly about feeling sorry for the poor and appreciating stuff. Bullshit, the minute maghreb breaks any Muslim who can afford it will stuff their faces with incredible amounts of food of the most expensive and delicious type. Followed by sweets, snacks and everything else. Most Muslims I know actually put on weight during Rammadhan, another argument I have heard about it is that it saves money, as the person who calculates the finances in this house (and we are farily modest when we eat Iftar) the expenditure hits the roof during Rammadhan.

    Rammadhan isn't religious fasting or an exercise in self control, it's a hypocritical mess in rearranging the diet schedule.

    If Allah wanted people to understand the poor he would have told them to do 5 hours of community service every week, or something similar. Instead, this complete mess doesn't do anything for the poor or the downtrodden, and the "fasting" is utter bullshit

    Sorry for the rant, I don't blame King Mo for making the stupid system, I blame the modern followers for failing to see how much hypocracy and idiocy is involved!
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #6 - August 23, 2009, 10:30 PM
    Does anyone lose weight during ramadhan?  Most dieticians would tell you there is a strong risk of putting on weight, if you are only eating 2 meals a day (the last meal being a late and heavy one at that)
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #7 - August 23, 2009, 10:33 PM
    I have heard many an Imam tell the sheep masses that Rammadhan is the healthy option because it is a good control on weight and it promotes healthy dieting practicies.

    BS!
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #8 - August 23, 2009, 10:35 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 23, 2009, 10:30 PM
    Does anyone lose weight during ramadhan?  Most dieticians would tell you there is a strong risk of putting on weight, if you are only eating 2 meals a day (the last meal being a late and heavy one at that)


    I lose weight during Ramadan.
    Very rarely can i eat till i am full. I usually stop after a few handfuls after a day of no food my stomach is not used to it
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #9 - August 23, 2009, 10:42 PM
    Quote from: FinallyFree on August 23, 2009, 10:33 PM
    I have heard many an Imam tell the sheep masses that Rammadhan is the healthy option because it is a good control on weight and it promotes healthy dieting practicies.

    If that were the case then you'd think that fasting all year round would be the way to achieve a healthy body and lifestyle.  Roll Eyes
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #10 - August 23, 2009, 10:45 PM
    Does it cause any long term damage?
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #11 - August 23, 2009, 10:48 PM
    It really slows down your metabolism. 

    Eating regular, small meals throughout the day is much better for your metabolism than starving yourself for the majority of the day and eating 1 or 2 large meals.

    A slow metabolism makes it harder to lose weight.
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #12 - August 23, 2009, 10:49 PM
    Fasting is encouraged in Islam! The prophet once told a young man that he should either get married or fast to quell his sexual desires if he can't get married (imagine how many young men would fast after that)! The punishment for delibrately missing a fast is 2 months fasting or something. There are also sunnah days of the week (I think Monday) to fast. Basically, fasting is an encouraged practice, I find it a bit dodgy considering the physical and mental effect it has on me and the people around me. I don't know if a lot here notice but fasting tends to make people short tempered, unhappy, prone to anger, overindulgous and overinflated in the evening and is quite an instability.

    I would say the danger is in the fact that it goes against dieticianary advice of eating many meals a day. The advice is to eat quite a few smaller meals at regular intervals during the day. Fasting lumps meals together, which must in the long term have an effect on the body.

    I couldn't find any non-bias or non-Muslim studies about the effect of Rammadhan on the health, but I can't imagine it being too beneficial, according to common sense.
    "I am ready to make my confession. I ask for no forgiveness father, for I have not sinned. I have only done what I needed to do to survive. I did not ask for the life that I was given, but it was given nonetheless-and with it, I did my best"
  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #13 - August 23, 2009, 10:50 PM
    Let's see what Zakir Nalaik has to say about this issue...  Cheesy

    *for those of you who don't understand urdu... Nalaik means "useless", and it rhymes with Naik.*  grin12

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9FhJgQ4ZN8
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #14 - August 23, 2009, 11:06 PM
    According to Zakir Naik, the benefits of fasting are:

    It organises the heartbeat and relaxes it.
    It reduces the pressure on the heart arteries.
    It reduces the fat/cholesterol as well as the acids.
    It releases the pressure on the liver.
    It decreases the secretion of the digestive glands which normally causes ulcer.
    There are less changes of having kidney stones when a person fasts.
    It is helpful in non-insolent dependant diabetes.
    It is helpful in reducing the weight.
    It is beneficial for the whole digestive system, as well as the central nervous system.
    It helps in removing the toxins from the body.
    It increases the immunity of the body.
    It reverses the aging process.  It increases the longevity (life-span) of a human being.
    It helps in the creation of T cells (known as killer cells).
    It rejuvenates and upholds the complete body.
    There are various diseases which are helped when a person fasts.  For example, cardiovascular diseases, asthma, arthritis, digestive disorders, lupus, skin disorders, non-insulin dependent diabetes.
    It helps to remove a person from things which are haram, which even medically aren?t good, for example smoking, or a person who is an alcoholic.
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #15 - August 23, 2009, 11:14 PM
    Quote from: Meredith on August 23, 2009, 10:45 PM
    Does it cause any long term damage?

    Doubt it, particularly as you have the opposite issue of wanting to put on weight.  Although it could be argued that you will end with higher choloestorol levels I guess..
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #16 - August 23, 2009, 11:14 PM
    Quote from: Shahid Raza on August 23, 2009, 10:50 PM
    Let's see what Zakir Nalaik has to say about this issue...

     Cheesy
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #17 - August 23, 2009, 11:36 PM
    The whole idea about weightloss is stupid, and going long without water is BAD for your body. That's why people who fast, are only allowed to drink water for a reason. Well most SANE people that is. Dehydrating yourself is the the worst thing for your body

    and I agree, it is NOT helping the poor in any way, and people who say self-control? stuffing urself right after magrib?? is the same as eating as you normally would thorughout the day,e xcept now with a slower metabolism to make you gain weight!!
    ahhaha such bullshit, UGHH

    I'm "fasting" tomorrow, bahhh well i'm going to the uni for the afternoon, so i'll have a nice meal there Wink
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #18 - August 24, 2009, 01:01 AM
    there's probably some weight loss but most likely in fluids and those couple of fat pounds (or kilos) will come right back after it's over. if the rules were to drink water and moderate food intake, then maybe there would be some credence to the health claim. otherwise it's rubbish.
  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #19 - August 24, 2009, 07:51 AM
    I carefully drink Apple Cider in my way driving to work,

    @ work I eat a candy bar... dance


    That's all wut I can do, anyway the candy is enough for me. i even dislike eating alone...I didn't miss the past iftars, think the coming days will witness my absence...ZzZzZz
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #20 - August 24, 2009, 08:20 AM
     Cheesy
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #21 - August 24, 2009, 10:03 AM
     I'm only going to suffer for today only, fuck I hate praying with my dad like uhhhhh ramadamn!!! Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
    Closets after closets
  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #22 - August 24, 2009, 10:23 AM
    Luckily I get to eat at home as both me and my wife are.... what was the word Osmanthus? Apostatisationlisingnessship?...

    Well we are both happily X-Muslims now. We only have to make sure our little boys won't see us and mention that in front of others. It would be an awkward situation. My 6 years son asks me a lot of questions and I try so hard to answer him without making it to obvious that all is BS.

    The other day I was so proud of him, yet was very worried when I heard him explaining to a cousin of mine who told him if you eat in Ramadan Allah up in the Sky will burn you in hell. He told him in the sky there is only planets and stars.... I saw that on Discovery Channel, he said.

    Of course I interfered and told the cousin off and asked him not to talk about fasting to my son again because for his young age I wish that he does not start fasting until he is old enough to handle it especially with temperatures exceeded 37 degrees Celsius 2 days ago!
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #23 - August 24, 2009, 11:21 AM
    Quote from: RIBS on August 24, 2009, 10:23 AM
    Well we are both happily X-Muslims now. We only have to make sure our little boys won't see us and mention that in front of others. It would be an awkward situation. My 6 years son asks me a lot of questions and I try so hard to answer him without making it to obvious that all is BS.

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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #24 - August 24, 2009, 11:59 AM
    Quote from: Emerald on August 24, 2009, 07:51 AM
    I carefully drink Apple Cider in my way driving to work,

    @ work I eat a candy bar... dance


    That's all wut I can do, anyway the candy is enough for me. i even dislike eating alone...I didn't miss the past iftars, think the coming days will witness my absence...ZzZzZz


    Where the bloody hell do you get cider from in Saudi?!
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #25 - August 24, 2009, 12:10 PM
    I have to fast because I am living with 8 other people who are fasting  Cry
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #26 - August 24, 2009, 12:13 PM
    just say you almost fainted and nearly died, and dont think its in your best interests to fast again
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #27 - August 24, 2009, 12:14 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on August 24, 2009, 11:59 AM
    Where the bloody hell do you get cider from in Saudi?!


    I was thinking the same thing! Wisam, you sneaky little devil! worship
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #28 - August 24, 2009, 12:14 PM
    Quote from: IsLame on August 24, 2009, 12:13 PM
    just say you almost fainted and nearly died, and dont think its in your best interests to fast again


     Cheesy
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  • Re: Ramadhan Thread
     Reply #29 - August 24, 2009, 12:15 PM
    NB: For those of you that are fasting and eating in secret.  

    I remember a good excuse that I used that always worked, if I accidently got caught eating/drinking.  "Whoops, I forgot I was fasting". My mum always used to say "its easy to do, be careful"
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