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  • Bloody media sensationalism!
     OP - September 14, 2009, 09:18 PM

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1213123/Sally-D-The-legal-high-MP-wants-ban-teenage-suicide-link.html

    Sally-D: The 'legal high' that MP wants to ban over teenage suicide link

    MPs have called for a dangerous hallucinogenic drug linked to a teenage suicide to be outlawed.
    Inhaling the herbal drug Salvia produces a ?legal high? which experts say mimics the effects of psychedelic drugs such as LSD and lasts up to ten minutes.
    Salvia, known as Magic Mint or Sally-D, can be bought easily on the internet or shops which sell drug paraphernalia. Scientifically known as Salvia divinorum, it is derived from the mint plant.

    In recent months, thousands of young people have posted footage of themselves smoking Salvia on YouTube. In one clip, a terrified young man drops to his knees and begins crawling on all fours; while another man is reduced to a mumbling wreck, muttering:  ?Excuse me, I have to go to space now.?
    The Government is to investigate the social impact of Salvia, but has refused to include it on a list of ?legal highs? which will be banned this year.
    In America, the drug was linked to the death of 17-year-old A-grade student Brett Chidester in 2006. His mother Kathleen has launched a campaign to ban the drug, and has succeeded in making it illegal in her home state of Delaware. She said: ?Brett would be turning 21 on Wednesday, so it?s going to be a hard week for us.
    ?He was fearless about trying Salvia. He first tried it in June and he was dead by January. I started noticing changes in his character. He wasn?t in a deep depression, but he wasn?t his usual happy-go-lucky self.
    In his diary, Brett wrote: ?Salvia allows us to give up our senses and wander in the interdimensional time and space. Our existence in general is pointless. We earthly humans are nothing.?
    He killed himself by stepping into a tent in his father?s garage and lighting a charcoal grill, causing his asphyxiation as the oxygen ran out. His death certificate cites Salvia as a contributing factor.
    There have been no recorded deaths in Britain but  Professor Fabrizio Schifano, of the University of Hertfordshire, has warned it is ?potentially very dangerous? and could lead to psychotic episodes.
    Student Jo Puddle, 19, from Kent, vowed never to use Salvia again after smoking it once. She said: ?You don?t know where you are, you don?t know who you are. That feeling  is horrible. It lasts for about five minutes, but the fear stays with you for about half an hour. I would not recommend it. I?ve never heard of anyone who enjoyed it.?
    Labour MP John Mann has spent four years lobbying the Government to ban Salvia. He said: ?It certainly should be banned. It?s more dangerous than some drugs that are illegal.?
    The Home Office said: ?Salvia is not a controlled drug but it will form part  of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs?s consideration of so-called ?legal highs?. We would consider any recommendation from the ACMD.?


    This article couldn't be more biased and misinformed! I know it's the daily mail and I don't expect anything from them but I'm just so sick and tired of all the misinformation being spread about drugs that are actually very safe. I've used Salvia myself and know of many others who have used it to. There is no potential danger to it at all and no scientific data states otherwise! I'm sick of the media demonising drugs, what is it to everyone else if I use drugs that effect nobody else?!

    And as for that suicide kid, his autopsy revealed no traces of salvia in his body. His suicide note did not mention suicide either and the media have been misquoting his journal in order to make it look like salvia was the culprit. I guess the journalist must've skipped past that part of her research. What a surprise.

    At least NewScientist has some brains; http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327251.100-better-world-legalise-drugs.html
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #1 - September 14, 2009, 09:19 PM

    It is like the whole ecstasy thing! People don't know anything about it and say that it is dangerous and it kills people when it doesn't. It is one of the least harmless drugs there is. I reckon it is even less harmful than cannabis.

    It is just media sensationalism, that is how they sell stories.

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #2 - September 15, 2009, 01:31 AM

    Oh great, now Salvia too.

    What they need to get into their heads is ALCOHOL AND CIGARETTES ARE DRUGS TOO. And they are EXTREMELY dangerous.

    Bloody government.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #3 - September 19, 2009, 07:48 PM

    Too right. Have been to get some legal highs today and I have the salvia for those special occasions. That stuff is amazing! Looks like my only options soon will be to smoke cigs and drink lager.

    I take durgs recreationally. Make me a criminal. If it feels good, ban it.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #4 - September 19, 2009, 07:53 PM

    makes me want to start shooting mps

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #5 - September 19, 2009, 08:25 PM

    It is like the whole ecstasy thing! People don't know anything about it and say that it is dangerous and it kills people when it doesn't. It is one of the least harmless drugs there is. I reckon it is even less harmful than cannabis.

    It is just media sensationalism, that is how they sell stories.

    Cannabis is quite harmless. Ecstasy is not however and neither is tobacco and alcohol.

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #6 - September 19, 2009, 08:37 PM

    few people have ever died from e's

    hundreds die each day from alcohol and tobacco

    it was just an attack on youth culture at the time about the same time as the rave act

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #7 - September 19, 2009, 08:37 PM

    Atheist.pk more people had to go to the emergency room for aspirin use than ecstasy in 2003 as showed in the DEA report.

    http://thedea.org/statistics.html

    "In a child's power to master the multiplication table, there is more sanctity than in all your shouted "amens" and "holy holies" and "hosannas." An idea is a greater monument than a cathedral. And the advance of man's knowledge is a greater miracle than all the sticks" - Henry Drummond
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #8 - September 19, 2009, 08:46 PM

    Yes but ecstasy use is not as frequent as aspirin, but it still is a very potent drug Smiley I dont oppose recreational drug use, in fact I say people have the right to use them reponsibly.

    www.talktofrank.com maybe this website can help as well?

    this for Ecstasy http://www.talktofrank.com/drugs.aspx?id=180

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #9 - September 19, 2009, 08:58 PM

    Because the stuff is not regulated, we don't know what we are taking but I've never had a bad effect.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #10 - September 19, 2009, 09:03 PM

    Thanks athiest,pk. It doesn't seem too bad if used responsibly. I might be trying some of that stuff soon. My bf is trying it right now lol, it's not exactly E though, it's Mephedrone which is pretty similar. I think Frank's website mentioned it as 4-MTA on that article.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #11 - September 19, 2009, 09:08 PM

    Peruvian, yes its a great website for getting the need to know basics (and risks) involved with ANY recreational drug around. So being responsible is the order of the day.

    Stay safe and enjoy Smiley

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #12 - September 19, 2009, 09:31 PM

    Cannabis is quite harmless. Ecstasy is not however and neither is tobacco and alcohol.


    I reckon it is subjective. For me personally, cannabis was quite harmful, but I would happily do 4 or 5 pills in a night. I don't think cannabis is as harmless as it is made out to be.

    Thanks athiest,pk. It doesn't seem too bad if used responsibly. I might be trying some of that stuff soon. My bf is trying it right now lol, it's not exactly E though, it's Mephedrone which is pretty similar. I think Frank's website mentioned it as 4-MTA on that article.


    I remember when I was in your situation, trying drugs etc! I loved that time, but I probably won't do drugs again. Maybe a line of coke if i was offered it and it was free.

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #13 - September 19, 2009, 09:57 PM

    Is there any reason you've stopped doing drugs or have you just grown out of it?
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #14 - September 20, 2009, 02:51 PM

    Just grew out of it. I'm not against them but I can't be bothered anymore. And one bad thing about pills is the comedown the next day is like a hangover but a thousand times worse! I'm not going through that again!

    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #15 - September 21, 2009, 02:21 PM

    lol fair enough
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #16 - September 21, 2009, 02:24 PM

    Are you guys MAD avoid all recreational drugs, especially cannabis - it is very harmful and can cause psychosis and paranoia in the long term.

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #17 - September 21, 2009, 02:25 PM

    someone fell for the sensationailism

    alcohol is a drug so there
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #18 - September 21, 2009, 02:28 PM

    Too much Alcohol is bad too but its ok in moderation. No pills though.

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #19 - September 21, 2009, 02:37 PM

    You should do some more research. There are many drugs which are safer then alcohol.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #20 - September 21, 2009, 02:40 PM

    I stick to natural highs like sports, sex and natural wonders.

    Take the Pakman challenge and convince me there is a God and Mo was not a murdering, power hungry sex maniac.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #21 - September 21, 2009, 02:43 PM

    Cannabis is quite harmless. Ecstasy is not however and neither is tobacco and alcohol.


    +1  Afro

    Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

    The sleeper has awakened -  Dune

    Give a man a fish, and you'll feed him for a day Give him a religion, and he'll starve to death while praying for a fish!
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #22 - September 21, 2009, 02:51 PM

    All drugs mess with both your brain and your general organism. Listen to your body, minimize their use.
  • Re: Bloody media sensationalism!
     Reply #23 - September 21, 2009, 03:44 PM

    Are you guys MAD avoid all recreational drugs, especially cannabis - it is very harmful and can cause psychosis and paranoia in the long term.


    not true.

    caning it enough can bring on a transient psychotic episode (in which case stop smoking), and it tends to worsen symptoms in schizophrenics. but the same is just as true with alcohol.

    recreational drugs are good fun and a necessary escape from life in late-capitalism.

    "...every imperfection in man is a bond with heaven..." - Karl Marx
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