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 Topic: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar

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  • Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     OP - September 18, 2009, 07:10 AM

    Dr Kamel Al-Najjar is an Ex-Muslim apostate who has gone public long ago. Dr Al-Najjar who is a Surgeon who currently works and lives in the UK has two main books that exposes the Quran and the real life of Mohammad. He was working in one of the Saudi Hospitals several years ago, and he was pissed off by an incident that he witnessed. I think it was some European guy who was smoking in the middle of the day during Ramadan. The poor guy was in shock when the religious fanatics started hitting him with sticks for violating the "Eating in Public is Not Allowed" rules as he had just arrived to work in KSA. He also witnessed these terrorist mobs hitting people who are near a mosque and not rush to prayers in the market and that made him start questioning: what kind of a god or a religion that forces it self on people? He moved to the UK and started working as a Surgeon in one of the well known Hospitals (although he does not say which exactly for obvious reasons) and started writing about Islam in his spare time.

    Anyways, I thought of writing about him here in the resources section.

    His Bio by his own writing as he posted it in one of the few known Arabic secular websites:

    http://www.ahewar.org/debat/show.art.asp?aid=171443

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  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #1 - September 18, 2009, 07:31 AM

    Here is a nice article in English by Dr Al Najjar:

    http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP112806

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  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #2 - September 18, 2009, 08:47 AM

    Here is a nice article in English by Dr Al Najjar:

    http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP112806


    Thanks RIBS, I enjoyed reading that.  Smiley

    I wish more ex Muslims would speak as clearly & point out flaws in Islamic theology as he does-instead of the tu quoque fallacies.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #3 - September 18, 2009, 09:17 AM

    I think this part of the article is spot on:

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    Al-Najjar next refers to the recommendation that calls for cooperation between the world's cultures: "How can we call for co-existence between religions when the religious scholars of Al-Azhar, Najaf, and Qom say every day that the Bible and the New Testament are falsified, that Christians are polytheists because they worship the Trinity, and that Jews are the descendants of apes and pigs? [When] every Friday, the [Muslim] worshipers call upon Allah to eradicate the Jews, and when the Muslims ridicule the Hindus for worshiping a cow? Who are those who [supposedly] call for [dialogue]? Are they religious scholars who believe in the superiority of Islam?..."


    Actually in my last Friday prayers that attended long time ago, I heard the Imam of the mosque says something similar to the above quote. That made me decide that I don't need to hear this crap anymore.

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  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #4 - September 18, 2009, 09:23 AM

    Thanks RIBS, I enjoyed reading that.  Smiley

    I wish more ex Muslims would speak as clearly & point out flaws in Islamic theology as he does-instead of the tu quoque fallacies.


    Let's not forget though that all religions are full of bullshit theologies and nonsense ideas! Afro

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  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #5 - September 18, 2009, 09:39 AM

    Exactly. Also I've seen plenty of ex-Muslims speak clearly and point out flaws with Islamic theology. Hassan is a prime example with his videos. I'm not sure what Rashna is getting at because as I have already told her fundamental criticisms of theism end up hitting all theism, not just Islam. So unless you want people to avoid fundamental criticisms of theism when discussing Islam (and I can't see why that would be necessary or desirable) then there are no grounds for calling tu quoque if the Christians or whoever else are made to feel uncomfortable.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #6 - September 18, 2009, 10:12 AM

    Let's not forget though that all religions are full of bullshit theologies and nonsense ideas! Afro


    This is very subjective. Also, loads of ex Muslims seem to devote far more time to criticizing all faiths than pointing out what is wrong in Islam.

    I don't even see ex Christians from the nicer Christian nations devoting so much time to Islam.

    World renowned historian Will Durant"...the Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex order and freedom can at any moment be overthrown..."
  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #7 - September 18, 2009, 10:19 AM

    This is very subjective. Also, loads of ex Muslims seem to devote far more time to criticizing all faiths than pointing out what is wrong in Islam.

    I don't even see ex Christians from the nicer Christian nations devoting so much time to Islam.

    That's just rubbish, Rashna. I keep telling you: logical arguments against the fundamentals of theism hit all theism. They can't avoid it. Since those arguments are some of the best for convincing people that Islam is fallible then there is no reason not to use them.

    And it is simply not true to say that ex-Muslims spend more time attacking other religions than they do attacking Islam. Look at this site. It is full of topics written by ex-Muslims that rip Islam to shreds. There is more material here attacking Islam than there is attacking all the other religions put together.

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #8 - September 18, 2009, 10:41 AM

    Rashna, think of a scenario where there are 3 rapists roaming your neighborhood. Now imagine that rapist "A" is only targeting boys, and rapist "B" only targets little girls, while rapist "C" have no preference and prays on all, little boys, little girls, and occasionally old ladies too.

    Now, don't you think it is unwise to criticize rapist "C" only? It is silly to say that we should just put rapist C in prison, because the other rapists are not as bad, right? Huh?

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  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #9 - February 01, 2010, 09:23 PM

    Damn why can't he write in English?

    I wonder, how many people are apostates in hiding.
  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #10 - February 01, 2010, 09:51 PM

    Damn why can't he write in English?

    I wonder, how many people are apostates in hiding.


    He is a very nice man indeed, and humble too.

    I enjoyed reading his book "A systematic study of Islam". It is in Arabic. I wish he have translated it into English.

    I emailed him and took his permission to post about him here and he did not mind.

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  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #11 - February 01, 2010, 10:22 PM

    I enjoyed reading his book "A systematic study of Islam". It is in Arabic. I wish he have translated it into English.

    I emailed him and took his permission to post about him here and he did not mind.


    I've been working on setting up a wiki system on this server. I've set up 4 wikis now: English, German, Turkish and Arabic. It might still need some tweaking, but I think it can go public now.

    Perhaps you and others would like to start filling the Arabic wiki with books and other material, and together with other guys here you could translate them into English.

    I've already started translating Hassan's book into German. Other German-speaking folks here might wanna help with this project. Doesn't have to be full dedication; just one paragraph at a time whenever you have spare time would be enough.

    German ex-Muslim forumMy YouTubeList of Ex-Muslims
    Wikis: en de fr ar tr
    CEMB-Chat
    I'm on an indefinite break...
  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #12 - February 01, 2010, 11:22 PM

    He's Iraqi I can tell you that much  Wink

    Thanks for the articles RIBS
  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #13 - February 02, 2010, 12:01 AM

    He is a very nice man indeed, and humble too.

    I enjoyed reading his book "A systematic study of Islam". It is in Arabic. I wish he have translated it into English.

    I emailed him and took his permission to post about him here and he did not mind.

    I've got that book in PDF (In Arabic) and attached it here if anyone is interested.

    "In every time and culture there are pressures to conform to the prevailing prejudices. But there are also, in every place and epoch, those who value the truth; who record the evidence faithfully. Future generations are in their debt." -Carl Sagan

  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #14 - February 02, 2010, 12:03 AM


    I wish the work of guys like this was getting translated to English, especially from Arab writers.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #15 - February 02, 2010, 04:30 AM

    I've got that book in PDF (In Arabic) and attached it here if anyone is interested.


    Oh great, I was look for that. I need to send it to a friend. You are a star, infidel. You know that, right? Afro

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  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #16 - February 02, 2010, 04:31 AM

    He's Iraqi I can tell you that much  Wink

    Thanks for the articles RIBS


    well done for Iraq. I wish there are more people like him... Afro

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  • Re: Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #17 - May 05, 2010, 12:17 PM

    He is a very nice man indeed, and humble too.

    I enjoyed reading his book "A systematic study of Islam". It is in Arabic. I wish he have translated it into English.

    I emailed him and took his permission to post about him here and he did not mind.


    If any of you Arabic speakers wish to read his very good book, please download it from here:

    Systematic Analysis of Islam

    Very good book to read.  Afro

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  • Dr Kamel Al-Najjar
     Reply #18 - January 17, 2013, 03:33 PM

    Count me in as another one who wants this book translated in English.
    Good article that was from the memri link.
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