We're by no means at the end yet

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We're by no means at the end yet
OP - October 12, 2009, 05:42 PM

Someone has just sent me this video on my youtube channel, and its made me realise we are by no means at the end yet. It seems to me that there is a lot of hidden resentment among the non-muslim community and videos like this will sadly channel it.

In 30-40 years time, as countries lose their borders it would not surprise me if we just have 2 worlds left, an Islamic & non-Islamic one (that is if a nuclear war doesnt finish us of first)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQY5VaqHAtI

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Re: We're by no means at the end yet
Reply #1 - October 12, 2009, 06:39 PM

Quote from: IsLame on October 12, 2009, 05:42 PM
In 30-40 years time, as countries lose their borders it would not surprise me if we just have 2 worlds left, an Islamic & non-Islamic one (that is if a nuclear war doesnt finish us of first)

Nah. There's too many differences within every group. Have a look at the history of the "islamic conquest" in the middle ages. This is often simplified as "The muslims vs the Europeans" but in fact there was rivalry within both groups and more often than not muslim and christian groups cooperated against a common enemy. Today's Spain in particular saw a constant stream of new coalitions being formed and old ones being broken.

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Reply #2 - October 12, 2009, 10:24 PM

Quote from: IsLame on October 12, 2009, 05:42 PM
In 30-40 years time, as countries lose their borders it would not surprise me if we just have 2 worlds left, an Islamic & non-Islamic one

IsLame, isn't this how many Muslims look at the world anyway?

A feature of the Islamic worldview is this division of humanity into manichean blocks -- the ummah v the kaffir.

Certain aspects of Islam seem to have real trouble accomodating itself to the realities of plurality and multiple simultaneous identities.

This is a great cause of friction and even existential unease and self-alienation amongst Muslims. It is like a grand collective sulk.

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Reply #3 - October 12, 2009, 10:42 PM

Quote from: billy on October 12, 2009, 10:24 PM
IsLame, isn't this how many Muslims look at the world anyway?

Most definitely. I remember looking at something similar to the first graph in my local mosque at the age of about 11

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Reply #4 - October 13, 2009, 12:03 AM

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Most definitely. I remember looking at something similar to the first graph in my local mosque at the age of about 11

This is what distinguishes Islam today -- the imperial mission that is at the centre of it. People look at that and they feel disturbed.

"we can smell traitors and country haters"

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Reply #5 - October 13, 2009, 01:02 AM

Islamic fundamentalism has been funded by and helped by the same western imperialism that it pretends to be fighting. During the cold war, Islamic fundamentalist groups were created, sponsored and mobilized by the U.S. and Saudi Arabia as a buffer to the encroaching atheist communists of the former USSR.

Thus, whenever Muslims support Islamism and Islamic fundamentalism, they're as much supporting and following along with the same exact western-capitalist-christian imperialism that they think they are resisting.

Don't you love irony?

Islamic imperialism is as dangerous as western imperialism, but it will probably run out of steam a lot sooner (as oil and oil dependency disappear).

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Re: We're by no means at the end yet
Reply #6 - October 13, 2009, 06:48 AM

Quote from: IsLame on October 12, 2009, 05:42 PM
Someone has just sent me this video on my youtube channel, and its made me realise we are by no means at the end yet. It seems to me that there is a lot of hidden resentment among the non-muslim community and videos like this will sadly channel it.

What is 'the non-muslim community'?

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In 30-40 years time, as countries lose their borders it would not surprise me if we just have 2 worlds left, an Islamic & non-Islamic one (that is if a nuclear war doesnt finish us of first)

We already have two worlds: Those who own and control the means of living, and everyone else.

The opposition of an 'Islamic' world to a 'non-Islamic' one is imaginary, it being a reactionary ideological creation.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQY5VaqHAtI

The video by that dodgy 'Clarion Fund' group, again. They've now produced a sequel, by the way. This kind of thing, although concerning, is something with very limited impact. Therefore I'm not drawing any pessimistic conclusions from it.

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