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  • Splitting of the Moon miracle
     OP - October 14, 2009, 09:12 AM

    http://thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=203043

    Splitting of the moon

    Random thoughts

    Wednesday, October 14, 2009
    Dr A Q Khan (yes its THAT A.Q. Khan)

    In one of my previous articles about Bhopal, I had written about its founding ruler, Raja Bhojpal and his sighting of the splitting of the moon, his sending of gifts, including betel leaves, to our Holy Prophet (PBUH).

    My dear Bhopali friend, Tameezul Haq, has drawn my attention to another very important event that took place and has sent me a photocopy of an article published in the Kerala Magazine in 1948, based on Tareekh-e-Uzbekistan by Syed Kamaluddin Ahmad. Following is an excerpt from that article:

    "Shaqqal qamar (splitting of the moon) miracle happened in the eighth year of Prophethood. The Holy Prophet (PBUH) was camping at Mina with his companions. There was a full moon. At that time, the non-believers challenged the Holy Prophet (PBUH) to split the moon into two if he were a true prophet. The non-believers (Quraish) present were Abu Jahl, Walid, Aas, Aswad and Nazar bin Haras.

    "The Holy Prophet (PBUH) raised his hand, prayed to Allah to fulfil their demand and then pointed his finger at the moon as if cutting it into two. The moon was immediately split into two? Hazrat Abdullah Ibn Masood (RA) is reported to have proclaimed: "I swear by Allah Almighty that I saw the moon in two pieces and the mountain Hira was in between them." This miracle has been described in the Holy Quran in Surah Qamar (paragraph 27).

    "In southern India (Malabar), the Kerala state was ruled by a Hindu raja. The raja and his family were sitting on the roof of the palace. He saw the moon splitting into two and could not believe what he had seen so he asked his family members if they had seen the same thing, which they had. The raja then summoned all the learned people of the area, including astrologers. He asked them to look into the episode and tell him what they made of it. After thorough investigation, all scholars confirmed the occurrence and said it was a miracle by a Prophet who, according to their books, would be born in Arabia and would split the moon into two by moving his fingers. 'We believe that the said Prophet (PBUH) has been born and the moon has been split at his command,' " they said.

    "The raja?sent his son with gifts for the Prophet (PBUH) and 100 soldiers for security reasons. The raja told his son that if the man was in fact the Prophet and if the episode was found to be true, then he should present the gifts to the latter and pay his respects to him.

    "On his journey, the prince met some Arabs who confirmed the splitting of the moon episode. He then expressed his desire to be taken to the Prophet (PBUH). Upon meeting the young prince, Rasulallah (SAWS) gave him a warm welcome and asked him about the purpose of his visit. The prince narrated the whole story, presented the gifts?and conveyed his father's greetings. The Holy Prophet (PBUH) thanked him and prayed for the welfare of the raja. It is said that on the very same day, the raja stopped worshipping idols, accepted the Prophethood and, thus, Islam.

    "The prince was so impressed by the Prophet (PBUH) that he embraced Islam and married the daughter of one of his companions. When he returned to Kerala, he learnt that the raja had passed away and people were waiting for him to come back. Initially, the prince did not tell anyone that he had accepted Islam. [After] he was crowned ?[and] consolidated his hold on the government, brought peace and tranquillity to the kingdom and then announced that he and his colleagues had embraced Islam. ?A large number of his subjects embraced Islam there and then.

    "The new raja decided to build a mosque which he named after his father. Today, it is known as Cheraman Mosque and is considered to be the first ever mosque of the Subcontinent. Located at Akrakalam, the Cheraman Mosque was constructed during the time of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). The area is known as Malabar and it is spread along the coast. Muslims are still in the majority in the area and are very religious."

    After the raja and his subjects embraced Islam, Arab traders' frequent visits, long stays and local inter-marriages resulted in more and more people embracing Islam and the area soon had a Muslim majority. Today, South Indians are known to be hardworking, intelligent, friendly and educated people. India's multi-billion-dollar IT industry is thriving in this area.

    After partition, many people from Kerala/Malebar migrated to Pakistan, most of them settling down in Karachi. They usually wore a tehmad or a lungi of checked material, a shirt and white crocheted cap. When a baby boy is born in their community, he is immediately given the first name 'Muhammad'. Similarly, girls are immediately given the first name of Ayesha or Fatima and a second name follows later. Many of the tea and pan shops in Karachi are owned and run by people from that area. During the 50s, whenever there was a cricket match going on, they would hang a blackboard outside their shops, keep the score updated and a large crowd always gathered around. Those were the days of the good old Pakistan.

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #1 - October 14, 2009, 08:52 PM

    This is like one of the most stupid stories ever.......for a bout 100 different reasons, one of which being that the Persians, Romans, Egyptians, and Greeks (who would at least have been in the same general time zone, and ya know....would tend to notice that kind of stuff.

    Also the Raja story is silly and made up.
    For one...There are no Hadiths about Muhammed ever meeting a Prince from India (you think someone would have remembered that), and the fact that islam was introduced by arabs in the late 8th century (Who made up a story of Cheraman Perumal going on the last Hajj which would have been historically impossible, because he wasnt alive then) .   

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #2 - December 17, 2009, 08:28 PM

    Ive just been sent this to my youtube channel, its different to the usual youtube style..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Vtt0C97U0

    watch from 4:30 onwards - youtube will ban it soon so hurry

    P.S  Anyone know how you can do simple animations like these?  As a project discussed b4, might be an easier way of doing a Monty Python style Life of Brian on Islam this way

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #3 - December 17, 2009, 11:59 PM

    quite funny i must say, although ur right this will get banned quicktime lol

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #4 - December 18, 2009, 12:59 AM

    He's not the prophet, he's a very naughty boy

    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #5 - December 18, 2009, 02:58 AM

    Ive just been sent this to my youtube channel, its different to the usual youtube style..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Vtt0C97U0

    watch from 4:30 onwards - youtube will ban it soon so hurry

    P.S  Anyone know how you can do simple animations like these?  As a project discussed b4, might be an easier way of doing a Monty Python style Life of Brian on Islam this way


    As crappy as this animation was, it's still more work than the monty python style even though all the models and rigs are probably pinched from someone else. What application do you use for your vids?

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #6 - December 18, 2009, 04:12 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csj7vMKy4EI

    fuck you
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #7 - December 18, 2009, 04:29 AM

    Qman, I have not laughed that much for ages! LOL

    ...
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #8 - December 18, 2009, 04:42 AM

    Ive just been sent this to my youtube channel, its different to the usual youtube style..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Vtt0C97U0

    watch from 4:30 onwards - youtube will ban it soon so hurry

    P.S  Anyone know how you can do simple animations like these?  As a project discussed b4, might be an easier way of doing a Monty Python style Life of Brian on Islam this way


    Damn! it is banned already!  finmad Did anyone have a copy or downloaded it before it was banned?

    ...
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #9 - December 18, 2009, 07:30 AM

    WHAT THE HELL!!!

    I didnt even get to see it :(
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #10 - December 18, 2009, 07:46 AM

    awwww, it looked funny

    well, I'm sure taliban mujihadeen nasheed sing a long is still up.

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #11 - December 18, 2009, 07:49 AM

    LMAO no thank you

    I never liked nasheeds anyway, unless Leonard Cohen decides to start making them.
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #12 - December 18, 2009, 07:51 AM

    Here's a good Jihad nasheed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwrTvHvIlfs

    Go to the youtube page and read the special and thoughtful comment I left them. (i'm slickback)

     Cheesy

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #13 - December 18, 2009, 07:56 AM

    lol i will

    i want to you join and make a fake account in Ummah and other similar places. You will know me as Bernstein4Allah haha
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #14 - December 18, 2009, 08:01 AM

    LOL, imagine if everyone on ummah.com actually 'Poes', just joking around and making fun....and everyone thought it was serious

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #15 - December 18, 2009, 08:05 AM

    LOL, imagine if everyone on ummah.com actually 'Poes', just joking around and making fun....and every one thought it was serious.


    I have to admit, that crosses my mind - I guess I just wish it if were the case Smiley

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #16 - December 18, 2009, 08:05 AM

    hahaha i think we should get a bunch from here and just invade the sites  dance
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #17 - December 18, 2009, 08:06 AM

    hahaha i think we should get a bunch from here and just invade the sites  dance


    I wonder how far we could push it before those on Ummah start getting worried? Tongue

    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #18 - December 18, 2009, 08:08 AM

    Get worried? Nah, we'll all be moderators within a week.

    Just dig up the most pants shittingly crazy hadiths you can find, and start arguing that anyone who disbelieves in them is a kafir.

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #19 - December 18, 2009, 08:09 AM

    Get worried? Nah, we'll all be moderators within a week.


    How can I resist that; I really want to register and give it a go Smiley

    I'll wait till my kaffeya arrives so I can look like Lawrence of arabia lol

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #20 - December 18, 2009, 08:11 AM

    The funny part is, I'll bet you'll have people agreeing...Uhm, ya...I guess, The sun does sleep under allah's throne at night. Mashallah

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #21 - December 18, 2009, 08:12 AM

    ok my story as Bernstein4Allah is that my dad is an investment banker from Manhattan and I have now found the real light of Islam but Im confused why there is so much hate towards Jews and im having a hard time reconciling my heritage with the hate verses, and.. my parents are giving me a hard time Cheesy haha
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #22 - December 18, 2009, 08:16 AM

    How can I resist that; I really want to register and give it a go Smiley

    I'll wait till my kaffeya arrives so I can look like Lawrence of arabia lol


    Got a great idea for your first topic.
    Ask when it is not ok to rape your slave (its ok, you're from Sudan, and you captured her after a battle with rebels), then you can thank everyone, for helping you figure this out so you can rape your slave the proper islamic way.

    and remember...If it aint haram, its halal, and anyone who tries to make something halal haram is a kufar.

    The foundation of superstition is ignorance, the
    superstructure is faith and the dome is a vain hope. Superstition
    is the child of ignorance and the mother of misery.
    -Robert G. Ingersoll (1898)

     "Do time ninjas have this ability?" "Yeah. Only they stay silent and aren't douchebags."  -Ibl
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #23 - December 18, 2009, 10:30 AM

    As crappy as this animation was, it's still more work than the monty python style even though all the models and rigs are probably pinched from someone else. What application do you use for your vids?

    I use a basic package, windows movie maker that came free with my windows package..

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #24 - January 23, 2010, 10:29 AM

    Ive just been sent this to my youtube channel, its different to the usual youtube style..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Vtt0C97U0

    watch from 4:30 onwards - youtube will ban it soon so hurry

    P.S  Anyone know how you can do simple animations like these?  As a project discussed b4, might be an easier way of doing a Monty Python style Life of Brian on Islam this way

    Damn! it is banned already!  finmad Did anyone have a copy or downloaded it before it was banned?

    Its back up RIBS,  , if only temporily, watch from 4:15 onwards
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBtmZBwDDQY

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #25 - January 23, 2010, 11:01 AM

    lol
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #26 - January 23, 2010, 02:03 PM

    Wow, great. I've got saved on my computer.

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #27 - March 05, 2011, 03:30 PM

    Not long ago Muddy brought this picture to my attention.



    He told me that a lot of Islamic websites are using it as evidence for the claim that mighty Mo split the Moon in half.  I looked around and found that no Islamic website cited the source of the image. I managed to track down the source of the image, it isn't photoshopped. It's a legit photograph. 

    The picture was taken from the Apollo 10 mission, the "crack" isn't really a crack after all, it's a surface feature called rille -- here's a nice list of known luanar rilles. Rilles are channels of lava flow left behind by lava when the moon was volcanically active. The rille imaged in the picture is named Rima Ariadaeus. It's a linear rille which is about 300km long, that's far from running across the entire moon. It barely covers 3% of the Moon's circumference. It's just the perspective of the picture which makes it look like it runs across the surface of the moon. Here is another view of Rima Ariadaeus seen head on.



    Doesn't look so dramatic now, does it?

    However, they fail to mention that these rilles have nothing to do with the splitting of the moon. We know that the moon was geologically active in the past and these rilles "cracks" are simply a result of that, no splitting required. This is just another case of god nuts taking something and criminally distorting it to fit their own view, nothing new there.
  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #28 - March 05, 2011, 03:41 PM

    Thanks for that picture GRB, didn't see that one yet.
    Next time someone posts the famous image I'll post the one you gave that provides a bigger (anticlimaxing) view.
    Then I'll kick back and have a laugh...or rage hard, depending on the other one's ignorance/level of delusion.

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  • Re: Splitting of the Moon miracle
     Reply #29 - April 20, 2011, 08:22 AM

    As a project discussed b4, might be an easier way of doing a Monty Python style Life of Brian on Islam this way

    The idea is catching on

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGe2YI6DdoE

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