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  • Harun Yahya
     OP - October 21, 2009, 12:06 PM
    I'm sure you guys have probably heard of him and talked about his "ideas" before, but it's just something I find confusing. This guy believes that evolution is a conspiracy and many muslims believe in this crap! It's the most annoying thing to read and just makes me want scream. I had a debate about science with my Muslim freinds husband and he just gave me the link and told me to read it and I'll see the truth...

    This is the link: http://www.harunyahya.com/

    How can people believe in this shite...
    "Ever notice how people who believe in creationism look really unevolved?
    Their eyes real close together. Eyebrow ridges. Big, furry hands and feet. 'I believe God created me in one day.'
    'Looks like he rushed it." ~ Bill Hicks
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #1 - October 21, 2009, 01:18 PM
    He is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. He does not have any scientific background. He has a degree in interior design. Yet he has so much authority and credibility because what he is doing helps further the Islamic cause. Even if it is furthered through bullshit and ignorance.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #2 - October 21, 2009, 01:36 PM
    Quote from: aliadiere on October 21, 2009, 01:18 PM
    He is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic.


    Is that true?  It doesn't surprise me but is this verified?
    "Modern man's great illusion has been to convince himself that of all that has gone before he represents the zenith of human accomplishment, but can't summon the mental powers to read anything more demanding than emoticons. Fascinating. "

    One very horny Turk I met on the net.
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #3 - October 21, 2009, 01:46 PM
    yeah, its true. he was diagnosed in the 80s.
    Religion - The hot potato that looked delicious but ended up burning your mouth!

    Knock your head on the ground, don't be miserly in your prayers, listen to your Sidi Sheikh, Allahu Akbar! - Lounes Matoub
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #4 - October 22, 2009, 12:12 AM
    Quote from: aliadiere on October 21, 2009, 01:18 PM
    He is a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. He does not have any scientific background. He has a degree in interior design. Yet he has so much authority and credibility because what he is doing helps further the Islamic cause. Even if it is furthered through bullshit and ignorance.


    But village idiots like him do so much damage that any sane person wouldn't want to be associated with him.

    I have to admit, I laughed when I read "he has a degree in interior design" Smiley
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #5 - October 22, 2009, 01:29 AM
    I wouldn't trust him to design the interior of a shithouse. I'm damned sure the result wouldn't be intelligent design.
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #6 - October 22, 2009, 05:30 AM
    Quote from: Humra on October 21, 2009, 12:06 PM
    I'm sure you guys have probably heard of him and talked about his "ideas" before, but it's just something I find confusing. This guy believes that evolution is a conspiracy and many muslims believe in this crap! It's the most annoying thing to read and just makes me want scream. I had a debate about science with my Muslim freinds husband and he just gave me the link and told me to read it and I'll see the truth...

    This is the link: http://www.harunyahya.com/

    How can people believe in this shite...


    I read a fair amount of his when I was muslim. Pretty much the same as I.D. Bamboozles people with glossy paper and bright colours.
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #7 - October 22, 2009, 09:37 AM
    He's been diagnosed with Schitzophrenia? Where diod you get the information? Just asking incase I get someone else using his bullshit to try and enlighten me...

    The fact he has a degree in interior design just makes matters worse! Many smart people in the west believe his crap, and haven't even checked his credentials =oS
    "Ever notice how people who believe in creationism look really unevolved?
    Their eyes real close together. Eyebrow ridges. Big, furry hands and feet. 'I believe God created me in one day.'
    'Looks like he rushed it." ~ Bill Hicks
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #8 - October 22, 2009, 10:01 AM
    Quote from: Humra on October 22, 2009, 09:37 AM
    He's been diagnosed with Schitzophrenia? Where diod you get the information? Just asking incase I get someone else using his bullshit to try and enlighten me...

    The fact he has a degree in interior design just makes matters worse! Many smart people in the west believe his crap, and haven't even checked his credentials =oS


    Here you go:

    http://newhumanist.org.uk/2131
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #9 - October 22, 2009, 10:38 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on October 22, 2009, 01:29 AM
    I wouldn't trust him to design the interior of a shithouse. I'm damned sure the result wouldn't be intelligent design.

    Who do you trust to design the interior of your shithouse then? You probably redecorate it yourself anyways. I will propose you probably redecorate once in the morning and once before you goto sleep.

    "Ask the slave girl; she will tell you the truth.' So the Apostle called Burayra to ask her. Ali got up and gave her a violent beating first, saying, 'Tell the Apostle the truth.'"
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #10 - October 22, 2009, 10:42 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on October 22, 2009, 01:29 AM
    I wouldn't trust him to design the interior of a shithouse. I'm damned sure the result wouldn't be intelligent design.


    Gold star 4 u Oz  Cheesy
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #11 - October 22, 2009, 10:53 AM
    Quote from: Baal on October 22, 2009, 10:38 AM
    Who do you trust to design the interior of your shithouse then? You probably redecorate it yourself anyways. I will propose you probably redecorate once in the morning and once before you goto sleep.


    Yep, Oz has already decorated his shithouse - it's now the poshest in the whole of Australia  grin12

  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #12 - October 22, 2009, 11:08 AM
    Quote from: kaiwai on October 22, 2009, 10:01 AM
    Here you go:

    http://newhumanist.org.uk/2131


    Excellent read - thanks  Afro

    I started quoting bits - but the whole thing is a must read!
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #13 - October 22, 2009, 02:24 PM
    Quote from: Hassan on October 22, 2009, 11:08 AM
    Excellent read - thanks  Afro

    I started quoting bits - but the whole thing is a must read!


    Just read it. What a disgusting person. Just think, if this chap could have had so much influence in this day and age, it would have been much easier back then to wield even more influence.
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #14 - October 23, 2009, 05:14 AM
    Quote from: Omaar Khayaam on October 22, 2009, 02:24 PM
    Just read it. What a disgusting person. Just think, if this chap could have had so much influence in this day and age, it would have been much easier back then to wield even more influence.


    I'm not surprised that he has so much influence though when one looks at society and what is and isn't valued. Just look online at how desperate some Muslims are to prove their 'faith' that they'll embrace such crap.
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #15 - October 23, 2009, 06:32 AM
    Hass: I love that shithouse. Mine isn't that flash, dammit. I must install a chandelier.  Cheesy
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #16 - October 23, 2009, 06:50 AM
    Quote from: osmanthus on October 23, 2009, 06:32 AM
    Hass: I love that shithouse. Mine isn't that flash, dammit. I must install a chandelier.  Cheesy


    Truth be known, my parents first house after coming back from Australia had a chandelier in the dunny which matched the one in the bathroom.
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #17 - October 23, 2009, 06:52 AM
    Did it have a gold toilet seat too?
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #18 - October 23, 2009, 07:10 AM
    There's an interesting article on Harun Yahya in Slate in case anyone is interested:
    http://www.slate.com/id/2233122/
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #19 - October 23, 2009, 07:26 AM
    This excerpt says it all:

    Quote
    After 20 minutes of sound checks, Adnan Oktar made his grand entrance. He's a burly man with slicked-back hair and a carefully trimmed beard, and he wore his trademark white suit with a black T-shirt. Oktar was gracious throughout our hourlong interview, but the weirdness of the evening quickly emerged. When I asked how so many evolutionary biologists could be wrong, he replied, "We need to talk about the Masons' role because Masons manage the world through a scientific dictatorship." When I suggested that scientists would be surprised to hear this, he said that's because the Masons' "essential characteristic is that they act secretly and they are invisible."

     Roll Eyes
    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #20 - October 23, 2009, 12:26 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on October 23, 2009, 06:52 AM
    Did it have a gold toilet seat too?


    Unfortunately not Cry
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #21 - October 23, 2009, 04:33 PM
    Quote from: osmanthus on October 23, 2009, 07:26 AM
    This excerpt says it all:
     Roll Eyes


    Haha, this sounds like my mates husbands..he actually believes in that stuff...Have any of you seen the Arrivals..I haven't watched all of them, but my mother and brother were forcing me to watch the crap and it was annoying me! Conspiracy theories are complete BS, I'm not saying that trustiong the governement is essential or anthing but even if any of the conspiracy theories had any truth about them what would you do? Moan a little more?
    "Ever notice how people who believe in creationism look really unevolved?
    Their eyes real close together. Eyebrow ridges. Big, furry hands and feet. 'I believe God created me in one day.'
    'Looks like he rushed it." ~ Bill Hicks
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #22 - October 24, 2009, 01:28 AM
    Quote from: Humra on October 23, 2009, 04:33 PM
    Haha, this sounds like my mates husbands..he actually believes in that stuff...Have any of you seen the Arrivals..I haven't watched all of them, but my mother and brother were forcing me to watch the crap and it was annoying me! Conspiracy theories are complete BS, I'm not saying that trustiong the governement is essential or anthing but even if any of the conspiracy theories had any truth about them what would you do? Moan a little more?


    Reminds me of Zakir Naik; its like watching a car cash in slow motion. In the carnage that unfolds there is a certain beauty that unfold - no unlike a BNP supporter being crushed by a heard of wild elephants.
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #23 - October 24, 2009, 01:57 AM
    Quote
    Reminds me of Zakir Naik; its like watching a car cash in slow motion. In the carnage that unfolds there is a certain beauty that unfold - no unlike a BNP supporter being crushed by a heard of wild elephants.


    But with Zakir Naik, the slow motion incredulity for me is observing how Muslims adore him, how they think he preaches such beautiful lessons and truths, I guess it is the same with Yahya. Watch their audiences - rapture in their eyes, its simultaneously frightening, funny, and bizarre.
    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    Quote from: arX on May 01, 2011, 03:33 AM
    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #24 - October 24, 2009, 02:23 AM
    Quote from: billy on October 24, 2009, 01:57 AM
    But with Zakir Naik, the slow motion incredulity for me is observing how Muslims adore him, how they think he preaches such beautiful lessons and truths, I guess it is the same with Yahya. Watch their audiences - rapture in their eyes, its simultaneously frightening, funny, and bizarre.


    You mean like this Smiley

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI
    "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up." - Muhammad Ali
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #25 - November 19, 2009, 07:39 AM
    I think That we should GIVE all the Muslims and Christians their land over their in Africa. And we will pack them both with weapons..... And let them Figure this out one their own, While the rest of us Go about our Own business knowing that the two will destroy each other.
    Left the forum: http://www.councilofexmuslims.com/index.php?topic=22997
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #26 - November 19, 2009, 08:51 PM
    Quote from: Humra on October 21, 2009, 12:06 PM
    I'm sure you guys have probably heard of him and talked about his "ideas" before, but it's just something I find confusing. This guy believes that evolution is a conspiracy and many muslims believe in this crap! It's the most annoying thing to read and just makes me want scream. I had a debate about science with my Muslim freinds husband and he just gave me the link and told me to read it and I'll see the truth...

    This is the link: http://www.harunyahya.com/




    How can people believe in this shite...


    If they can accept unverifiable God - I am sure they accept anything. It's not too hard.
    Challenge All Ideologies but don't Hate People.
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #27 - November 19, 2009, 08:51 PM
    The Egyptian Muslim man who has been trying to convert me touts stuff from Harun Yahya all the time. I looked him up and then tried to explain to him that Yahya has no credentials at all and no business commenting on evolution, but he keeps telling me that "biased Darwinists" are just misrepresenting him because they don't WANT to believe what they know is true. In other words, he's telling me that I don't accept Harun Yahya's conclusions because I don't want to, not because he's full of shit.
    "Laughter makes the bitter swallowing of truth, for some, a little easier."
    -Bill Hicks
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #28 - November 20, 2009, 07:19 PM
    So I sent the New Humanist article on Harun Yahya to Ahmed, the man who has been trying to convert me. He replied with this:
    //hi Lauren, sure there will be such untrue claims and lies said about people like Mr.Harun.In fact, i don't know him personally but i welcome any critisim about his writings without trying to hear lies about him//
    and he included a link that I only started reading before wanting to headdesk:
    http://tr1.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/EDCRFV/productId/18849/

    How does one deal with a person who claims that anything negative about the people they agree with is a lie?
    "Laughter makes the bitter swallowing of truth, for some, a little easier."
    -Bill Hicks
  • Re: Harun Yahya
     Reply #29 - November 20, 2009, 07:26 PM
    Quote from: LittleLauren42 on November 20, 2009, 07:19 PM
    So I sent the New Humanist article on Harun Yahya to Ahmed, the man who has been trying to convert me. He replied with this:
    //hi Lauren, sure there will be such untrue claims and lies said about people like Mr.Harun.In fact, i don't know him personally but i welcome any critisim about his writings without trying to hear lies about him//
    and he included a link that I only started reading before wanting to headdesk:
    http://tr1.harunyahya.com/Detail/T/EDCRFV/productId/18849/

    How does one deal with a person who claims that anything negative about the people they agree with is a lie?


    Your friend is an idiot. No offense.
    "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself."
    ~Sir Richard Francis Burton

    "I think religion is just like smoking: Both invented by people, addictive, harmful, and kills!"
    ~RIBS
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