I thought you might find some of the comments to the demo vid interesting:
1World1Khilafah
There is no secularism in Islam!
There is no such thing as a secular Muslim!
appybuddha
There is no secularism in Islam. That is not to say that Muslims can not live in a secular country. It is up to each person to decide what religion they want to follow or not follow.
2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way.
NaziUAF
Your no better than the extremist muslims.
Calling for secularism for religion.
I'm not religious but this IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY!
Tired of being dictated to by immigrants!
Flyborg
You can't have "secularism for religion". Secularism just means that church and state are seperate. And if you're not religous, why would you want a theocracy? That's like saying I'm not a Communist but I think they should be in power.
Secularism means that NO religion has state power. It's ironic to say that secularism (absence of religous control) is just as bad as people who want religion "A" to have control.. especially since you want religion "B" to have control. Seriously?
InternalCompass
Hurray for rational secularists speaking out.
However, if you claim to be a secular Muslim, then you are neither truly secular, nor are you Muslim as defined in the Koran.
Secular = Kuffar as defined by the holy book of superstition and barbaric ignorance called scripture by true Muslims.
GnosticAgnostic
I agree, but I am SOOOO happy that moderate Muslims are standing up for moderation and freedom.
appybuddha
Me too.
appybuddha
Religious cultures can change. Just because doctrine says one thing does not mean the religious culture of the day has to embrace it.
InternalCompass
I'm a strong supporter for respecting and retaining the beauty of one's cultural identity and heritage.
However, to be blunt... culture is culture and religion is religion. Culture becomes more sophisticated over time while religion is bound and trapped within the concrete of the dogma is was cast in.
InternalCompass
typo...
**...religion is bound and trapped within the concrete IT was cast in. **
appybuddha
"Culture becomes more sophisticated over time while religion is bound and trapped within the concrete of the dogma is was cast in."
Really? So the Christianity of today looks like the Christianity during the inquisition? Are Christians today burning witches at the stake? Stoning adulterers? Enslaving people from more primitive cultures?
I would say that anti-theism tends to be the result of dogmatic thinking.
InternalCompass
Just because theists reluctantly stop murdering in the name of God, or if theists reluctantly admit the world is not flat.. These are all evidence of the failure of religious dogma contrasted against the ability of cultures to evolve and become more sophisticated as knowledge increases.
hoodmilk
Yay, Moderate Muslims are standing up! It's about time.
geodesicks
taqiyya, anyone?
yeah, i know, i know.. very well executed taqiyya then! with a theology like that, there's no win.8blkcat
Almost all theologies have a form of taqiyya (misleading as a form of self defense or for a "greater good") as far as I've read. No win with any of them really...
But surely you don't see the faces of those people's faces and think they are holding knifes behind their backs, do you? If so, your EQ must be terribly low.
geodesicks
show me another such theology. i have looked at hindu, buddhist, daoist, islamic and christian theologies. most of them goad one to follow one's conviction in the truth at all costs, sublime as that may to follow in real life. remember the buddhist monks who set themselves on fire to protest what they perceived as evil? now that is the backbone that such religions breed. islam, through the institutionalization of taqiyya, breeds quite the opposite kind of backbone. vast difference.
OttawaAnon1001
About time things like this started to happen
SpiritualAtheist
This is awesome.
kaminarigaston
When I saw the title I thought it was about BDSM lol
digitised
Oh you were thinking of the British Democratic Secular Muslims...
discussislam
This is the British Muslims for Secular Democracy *NOT* the British Democractic Secular Muslims... Splitters!
Topic: Victory against Extremism