Not really man. I'm asking you to prove me wrong by providing evidence. Alas, all you have done is just give your word against mine without any evidence to back it up. If you want, I can find you many scholary writings pointing to the fact that Hijab and Niqab are required within Islam.
Scholars can of course voice their opinions, but it remains that, their opinion. There is no verse in the Quran that commands women to wear hijab or niqab. For instance, verse 33:52 says that no women henceforthbe lawful to Prophet Muhammadeven though their beautyshould please him greatly. Beauty is in the face and so niqab cannot be mandatory acording to this verse.
There is no other verse that commands hijab either. All of them ask to wear decently and that is it.
Okay, if what I said is false, then what about Islam exactly do you find so liberating that no other lifestyle can even compare to it? Please tell me so I can understand your perspective. Don't dodge this question by marking it as "irrelevant" this time.
That is a wholly different topic now that can be discussed in another thread.
Equality such as?
In everything. In authority, inheritance, testimony, marriage etc... I know you have were raised to believe in misogynist understandings of these concepts so I understand your surprise.
Fair enough. It's not mentioned in her post, so we don't have a mutual source to compare that claim. So I'll leave it at that.
Fine.
Are you gonna try to mold the information from the video above like you do with the information from the Quran?
I saw that video before and it is not reliable for several reasons. These kinds of "studies" are not reliable because they usually are based on faulty methods. Almost 10 years ago a Muslim "scholar" appeared on Aljazeera warning Muslims that 6 million African Muslims convert to Christianity every year. This video, despite the fact that it is almost a decade old, is still propagated by Christians today. However, statistics showed that the information that that "scholar" spouted were false and that as a matter of fact, Islam is spreading twice as fast as Christianity in Africa according to Christian organizations themselves. And if, for the sake of argument, we take the information in that video to be true, the "study" only talks of converts in Chicago alone I believe. It does not talk of all American converts, let alone converts worldwide. Give me an authentic study by Pew or Gallups and I would take seriously, but this? Not so good.
And I do not mold anything. I only write what I genuinely believe is the case. I am of course open to the possibility that my belief might be wrong. I hope you too are open to the possibility that your belief might be wrong too.
LOL why? If in your opinion a person is not gonna go to hell for not even hearing of Islam, then why tell them? Kinda why I brought up that story
Only good people go to Hell. Those who reject the truth are certainly not good people. If I tell him about genuine, real Islam and yet he rejects it, then it means that he is not a good person and would go to Hell anyway whether I had told him about Islam or not
LOL a punishment in what form? A simple after school timeout, or actual physical abuse and harm--torture?
Again, I find your attempt at the game of semantics never ceases to amaze me.
Maximum sins deserve maximum punishments. That is not a "game of semantics". That is justice. And what is a maximum punishment? Eternal Hell.
Take away hell and heaven out of the religion then all you're left with is a set of beliefs that could be used as a set of moral guidance. That's what the philosophy of Buddhism is. They don't believe in god, they don't believe in an after like such as heaven and hell, but they still have a moral set of beliefs which they live by.
But I would still believe in God, His books, angels etc... which is still not like Buddhism.
I have nothing against Budhhism really. Do not understand my statement as such please.
But I guess you do have a slight point--even if you strip away the verses from the Quran that constantly injects fear into the believers,
Hell is not there to inject fear into the believers. Hell is there because it is the only just punishment for those reject God despite the evidences presented to them. If I do believe the Quran to be faulty I would give up belief in it, Hell or no Hell.
then you're still left with shit like wife beatings, and other bigotry--so it's not like Buddhism at all.
The Quran does not command wife beatings or any other bigotry. Daraba has several meanings in the Quran such as to separate or put forth. It does not necessarily mean to hit.Which version? Please don't say all, cause that'd really give me a laughing fit.
Of course not all versions. I would say that Islam as I, and many others, understand it is indeed a peaceful religion.
Regards,
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