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  • Zaid Hamid
     OP - December 01, 2009, 07:17 PM

    I can't understand what this guy says. I'm sure he speaks english, but 99% of his stuff on the internet I think is Urdu. What I can make of it is that he has the makings of a Pakistani Hitler, who blames all of Pakistans' problems on Hindu-zionism. He seems to be gathering quite a following. Any Pakistanis here like to comment on him?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OadulKgwEV0&feature=player_embedded

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #1 - December 01, 2009, 07:26 PM

    Ooooh, clips of lions juxtaposed with nationalist propaganda and noticed some references to Saladin. Nice, very original  Cheesy


    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #2 - December 01, 2009, 07:34 PM

    From his profile on his company's site: http://www.brasstacks.pk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=116&Itemid=57 - seems like he's just another taliban-wannabe. Yeah the video is soooo smarmy and blatantly propagandist.  Roll Eyes

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #3 - December 01, 2009, 07:46 PM

    Zaid Hamid is obviously a well-learned man, and really into the stuff Dr Allama Muhammad Iqbal wrote at the early part of the 20th Century in his poetic brilliance of Urdu and Farsi over philosophy (specifically, the self of any man), as well as a highly utopian concept of a united Muslim nation, and especially a united Muslim India.

    Yes, it was a dying Iqbal who convinced Muhammad Ali Jinnah to leave his (very rewarding) lawyer practice in London and head back to India in the 1930s and re-kindle his own political ambitions since Jinnah had become very disillusioned and pissed off in the 1920s of Indian politics. Pakistanis adore Iqbal for being the first domino that fell that eventually led to Pakistan's own independence etc etc etc.

    For those who can read Urdu, my current signature is taken from a very moving poem about the self of any man written by Allama Iqbal in the 1930s titled 'Javed kay naam' which he actually dedicated to his own son, Javed Iqbal.

    Zaid Hamid is a former Jihadi (volunteered to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan) and quite the pan-Islamic revivalist and Pakistani nationalist all in one. Makes Pakistanis feel good about themselves with his passionate displays of quoting Iqbal, and being a real hawk in discussing geopolitics with his good friend and ally Ahmed Quraishi.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSfVjgdGgA
    This was Ahmed Quraishi's program 'World View' aired exactly 2 years ago on PTV that essentially introduced Zaid Hamid as an analyst of sorts, and this was the series of programs that effectively started properly discussing the whole 'The Pakistani Taliban are fake Taliban supported by hostile intelligence agencies from India USA UK and Israel' mantra.

    As you can see, Mr Hamid has come a LONG way since. Now he is everywhere, and now he even has Ali Azmat (ex-Junoon singer) in the palms of his hands as a buddy and promoter on national television as well. From being an analyst, into a Iqbal-quoting quasi-Islamist televangelist who loves Pakistan so very very much. whistling2

    But that is where the good stuff ends....personally speaking Zaid Hamid's patriotism (fascism) really gives me the creeps. He seems like a real attention whore and is loving every moment of attention he gets together with Ahmed Quraishi.

    Yes, I am a patriot too, but I find Zaid Hamid's patriotism VERY VERY fishy and his insincere sincerity makes me very sceptical about his whole charade.  Huh?

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #4 - December 01, 2009, 07:49 PM

    Here's a commentary on this guy from a Pakistani news source:

    Quote
    Hate speech -- II
    The Pakistan report card

    Thursday, September 25, 2008
    Fasi Zaka

    My previous article focused on the free reign of hate speech in some Pakistani media outlets that made liberal use of a mix of unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, faulty facts, racial hatred and religious intolerance, and my perspective was formed particularly by watching Zaid Hamid who does the show "Brass Tacks."

    In the week since, I have found the rhetorical violence present in the 'lectures' of Zaid Hamid followed up by a close dose of how it informs the reality of Brass Tacks and Zaid Hamid. Since the article he has circulated to the members of his mail group that I have attacked him at the behest of the Zionist Banking System, the Kufr Dajjal and that their 'war' has entered a new stage. He encouraged members to write to me, and they have in force. From veiled threats, to how my picture in this column looked like the dajjal (I am content with how God made me), or my membership to the 'Illuminati' amongst a number of others have all come my way, including links to documentaries on YouTube from where they have done their 'scholarly research?' Brass Tacks has a huge Islamic component, I wonder if Zaid Hamid has forgotten the lessons of 'tohmat', or allegations, and how Islam views it.

    While at first I thought Zaid Hamid to be well-intended but misguided, what I have now seen firsthand demonstrates delusion. In this postmodern world where people have surrendered a good deal of their intimate freedoms to impersonal institutions, where the interlinked nexus of governments and corporations creates ripples that people find difficult to understand, the conspiracy theorist takes the easy way out by assuming that all events are at the hands of a secret few. Despite the invalidity of these theses, they have staying power because they offer no proof, and hence they cannot be disproved, especially if they are the product of a paranoid imagination. Common to most of these conspiracy theories is 'de-individualization', which is lumping people into impersonal groups and taking their humanity away from them. That's what Zaid Hamid does when he rants about the inferiority of Hindus, the inherent evil nature of Jews or Pakistani leaders he disagrees with. He neglects to realize that his method is what also drove the neoconservatives in creating a world in their own ethnocentric image and in the killing fields of Iraq. This method also drove the perpetrator of the Marriott attack, who was so convinced of his mission that he didn't mind killing scores of the poorest for a few choice targets.

    As far as me being a Zionist Banker goes, I have never worked for a bank, or own shares in any. I did work briefly once for the World Bank, a development organization (one that I also believe has done some harm to the people it is mandated to help), but that was a short-term consultancy to research the value chain of apples for export and it had nothing to do with lending money. I do have two bank accounts, and the public is welcome to verify that in neither is there an exemption from paying the government Zakat, nor are there any withdrawals before it is imposed.

    Let's hold Zaid Hamid to his own standards by looking at his record. On the website of his security consulting firm, also called Brass Tacks, he proudly mentions testimonials from employees of both Deutsche Bank and Bank of America (amongst ten other banks), and from Shell. Wait a second! Isn't this the same Zaid Hamid who does a TV programme that claims banks are in the hands of the Zionist Jews hungry to kill all Muslims? What is he doing profiting from protecting them after creating public animosity towards them? Is this the same Zaid Hamid who believes the world is being overrun by multinationals that are out to secure resources that will eventually harm Muslims? What is he doing profiting from protecting Shell, which has just signed an agreement to sell natural gas in the Governorate of Basra in Iraq under the US occupation? He is not living what he is preaching. He devours banks and multinationals on television but profits from them when the cameras stop rolling.

    One of the major world conspiracies happens to be that the invasions of the US were conducted at the behest of Halliburton, an energy company with known ties to individuals of the US administration. Well, the Bank of America (BOA) has just recommended the stock of Halliburton after the CFO of the energy company met with BOA officials. So by one degree of separation, isn't Brass Tacks, the company of Zaid Hamid, linked to Halliburton because of the BOA connection?

    Now I want to clarify that all the above facts are true, but I do not believe in the yarn I wind around them to make them connect. I do not believe for a second that Zaid Hamid intends to create fear and profit from it. He just happened to be a security expert who landed on TV with a pre-existing business and started preaching his prejudices derived from random conspiracy theories. I wrote the scenario above to illustrate how the coincidental can be woven together to make a compelling narrative that has no real truth, nor is it causal or correlated. It is thinking like this that I wish Zaid Hamid would question himself on, because as demonstrated above even he could fall prey to the world where nothing is substantiated and the dicey is used as truth to fan hatred.

    As far as profiting from concerns he preaches against, well that's for him to resolve. But the absolutism that Zaid Hamid holds others to, he does not hold himself to apparently.

    This absolutism is not just moral in his case, it is intellectual as well. In his recent programme, he described how income taxes were one of the greatest conspiracies of the US. Had he just bothered to look into the system of income taxes and public finance, he would have realized that a progressive taxation system is one of the greatest tools to redistribute wealth and to help the poor. Accidents of birth, talent and intelligence can be mitigated into a more just society when there is a documented tax base, and societies can pay for services to the economically disadvantaged. A progressive taxation system can make sure that there are good hospitals, schools, pensions and other benefits that can help them overturn an unequal society by redistributing from the rich to the poor. The welfare state that all populist Islamic leaders promise will be based on the progressive income tax system, not government sales tax (GST). If we had no income taxes, and only GST then we would be taxing consumption, and for the poor food is a large part of that, which means relative to income no income taxes and only GST; it would penalize the poor more than the rich and they would eat less. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    For example, Zaid Hamid has been insinuating for the longest time that most of Pakistan's leaders are in the pockets of the CIA. I am sure some are. However, Zaid Hamid makes one exclusion to his thesis, General Musharraf, someone who overtly cooperated more with the US than anyone else in Pakistan's history. Now exactly how Zaid Hamid has the knowledge to make this distinction, no one knows. By continuously insisting on television the he is the only one who knows these things, he is creating the cult of personality, not that of objectivity. After all, this is a man who decries the state of representative politics, of democracy, but that does not mean he has the right to do away with it, because the only alternative in his eyes would be someone he approves of (himself?), not who the people choose.

    In the end, I would like to add a few cautionary notes. Brass Tacks is not a programme entirely without merit, and neither is Zaid Hamid. For example, he is right when he discusses the rancid imperialism of the US and its misadventures abroad, he is right when he believes that unfettered capitalism is bad, or that Muslims need to awaken from their slumber. He is right when he mentions there are flaws in an economic system that allows for hot money, that sells credit irresponsibly for mindless consumption. These are legitimate themes, and the fact that Zaid Hamid is non-sectarian is applause worthy.

    But where Zaid Hamid should draw the line is upholding the facts that withstand query, abstaining from hate speech even if he opposes large swathes of humanity and verifying tracts that may not fit into his presuppositions. There is a place for both the right and left on television, after all that is what creates consensus through dialectic. What should be common is remembering Islam is a religion of peace.



    The writer is a Rhodes scholar and former academic. Email: fasizaka@yahoo.com


    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused."
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #5 - December 01, 2009, 07:51 PM

    Fasi Zaka is fucking brilliant! I love that guy!

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #6 - December 01, 2009, 09:53 PM

    Yes that was a nicely written article. Zaid Hamid sounds distinctly dodgey. I love him ranting against income tax. Now why is it that so many rich capitalists rant against income tax?

    Devious, treacherous, murderous, neanderthal, sub-human of the West. bunny
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #7 - December 02, 2009, 12:25 AM

    I've never heard of Zaid Hamid or Fasi Zaka.  I know about Dr Shahid Masood though, he's a popular Pakistani TV presenter.

    .
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #8 - December 02, 2009, 08:20 AM

    Shahid Masood is a snake. Never liked him at all lacks credibility as being a 'fair man'.

    Fasi Zaka is brilliant though. He is well versed in political and social issues, has become a renowned media critic, and has a brilliant sense of subtle sarcasm Tongue

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsJQaTL4fJU

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #9 - December 02, 2009, 02:43 PM


    He looks like a creep.


    "we can smell traitors and country haters"


    God is Love.
    Love is Blind. Stevie Wonder is blind. Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.

  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #10 - December 02, 2009, 04:01 PM

    This seems a little creepy too.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBV_OH1cGoo

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #11 - December 18, 2009, 06:33 PM

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/23672211/Zaid-Hamid-s-past-present-a-research-work

    Looks like Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid has a very dark past he avoids to talk about.  lipsrsealed

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #12 - December 18, 2009, 07:11 PM

    Great,
    I shall present this to the flock.
     Afro

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #13 - December 18, 2009, 07:31 PM

    That guy won't stand a chance if he ever debated with someone who knew what he was talking about.

    Some time ago he was owned by an india security analyst and after that he said indian channels should be banned in Pakistan, lol  Cheesy
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #14 - December 18, 2009, 07:32 PM

    oh and this too:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/24228689/Reality-of-Zaid-Hamid-s-ghazwa-e-HInd-hysteria

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #15 - December 18, 2009, 07:34 PM

    That guy won't stand a chance if he ever debated with someone who knew what he was talking about.

    Some time ago he was owned by an india security analyst and after that he said indian channels should be banned in Pakistan, lol  Cheesy

    If memory serves me right, Zaid Hamid's parting shot at that Indian analyst was "I'll see you at Panipat"  Cheesy

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #16 - December 18, 2009, 07:44 PM

    Are there any youtube vids of his talks/interviews in english subtitles?

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #17 - December 18, 2009, 08:14 PM

    If memory serves me right, Zaid Hamid's parting shot at that Indian analyst was "I'll see you at Panipat"  Cheesy


    Lol!!! I remember that!  Cheesy. Do you remember the indian guy's response?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #18 - December 18, 2009, 08:17 PM

    Are there any youtube vids of his talks/interviews in english subtitles?


    Lol, no idea, I don't watch his crap even in Urdu. Watching his videos just makes you angry that this kind of idiot could get on tv and further mislead & brainwash the people.

    A much better video to watch is this.. lol:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E06FtHU3-6w
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #19 - December 18, 2009, 08:22 PM

    Lol!!! I remember that!  Cheesy. Do you remember the indian guy's response?

    No I dont actually. What did he say?

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #20 - December 18, 2009, 10:08 PM

    I don't know, I was asking if you knew so you could tell me  Wink
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #21 - December 18, 2009, 10:41 PM

    A good article
    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/pakistan/19-clear-and-present-danger-hh-03

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #22 - December 19, 2009, 05:30 AM

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Zaid-Hamid/51469458372?ref=nf
    Behold, the first proper parody page of the Islamic Fuhrer, Zaid Hamid. There is hope amongst Pakistanis after all

    Also the infamous Nadeem Farooq Paracha takes the piss out of Zaid Hamid and his Ghazwa-ul-Hind fallacy in this brilliant satire:
    http://blog.dawn.com/2009/12/17/pakistan%E2%80%99s-new-media-dictionary/

    Pakistan Zindabad? ya Pakistan sey Zinda bhaag?

    Long Live Pakistan? Or run with your lives from Pakistan?
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #23 - December 19, 2009, 05:38 AM



    lol what a fucking clown.

    Iblis has mad debaterin' skillz. Best not step up unless you're prepared to recieve da pain.

  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #24 - March 12, 2010, 08:56 PM

    Lock the fucker up and throw away the key!
    After a fair trial of course.
    http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=159908

    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat your children. Praise be to Allah." -- Mike Tyson
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #25 - March 13, 2010, 10:37 AM

    Holly Allah Doll  Bob gets some CAT NEWS., Cat is in trouble..
    Quote
    Lock the fucker up and throw away the key!
    After a fair trial of course.

    http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=159908  

     
    Ha ! that is crazy news says it all.  I knew it that guy the way he talks could put him in trouble. By such Allah arousing lectures to emotional kids, he  could easily make couple of stupid kids  enraged  and these fools could do anything for him.,  Off course It is not certain his followers did it.,  BUT THAT DANGER IS ALWAYS THERE FOR HIM..

    to day's news on Jalalpuri murder says

    http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/national/zaid-hamid-named-in-jalalpuri-murder-fir-330



    Quote
    KARACHI: As thousands of people attended the funeral of Mufti Saeed Ahmed Jalalpuri here on Friday, police booked Zaid Hamid, who claims to be a security consultant and strategic defence analyst, for the murder of the prominent religious scholar, his son and two associates.

    Mufti Saeed Jalalpuri of Aalmi Majlis-i-Tahaffuz-i-Khatm-i-Nabuat, his son Huzaifa Jalalpuri and close associates Fakhruz Zaman and Abdul Rehman were returning from Jamia Masjid Khatman-un-Nabi in Gulshan-i-Iqbal on Thursday night when four to five gunmen sprayed their car with bullets, killing all of them.

    SSP Javed Mahar of Gulsha-i-Iqbal Town said the FIR had been registered under Sections 302 (premeditated murder), 324 (attempt to murder), 109 (punishment of abetment if the act abetted committed in consequence and where no express provision is made for its punishment) and 34 (common intention) against Zaid Hamid (Zaid Zaman Hamid) on the complaint of Mufti Jalapuri’s close aide Hafiz Shabbir.

    He said that although the text of the FIR did not mention the profession of the accused, the investigators were told by the complainant that they had nominated Zaid Hamid who appeared in TV shows and delivered lectures mainly on security and defence issues.  Anwaar Ahmed, another aide of Mufti Jalalpuri, told Dawn that the scholar used to actively expose Zaid Hamid who, he alleged, was a close associate of ‘a person who had laid claim to prophethood’.

    Anwaar Ahmed said: “In late 1990s a man named Yusuf Kazzab emerged and claimed prophethood, who was aided and assisted by Zaid Hamid. At that time he was known as Zaid Zaman Hamid but currently he has cut his name short to Zaid Hamid”. He said he had insisted that both names be mentioned in the FIR, because his organisation suspected his role in the killing of Mufti Jalalpuri.

    This is back to that Yusuf Ali/Kazzab  problems..  Well sure the guy is in trouble.   FOOL.. why rain emotional words all over TV and excite stupid kids in these modern times where you can get a rifle for couple of 100 rupees and  these emotional idiots will click the figure for silly argument..


    Now I wonder what this lady  Maria-b will do in her life..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6HoXbozG3E

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i_Ni7XhZ9M

    Stupid lady.. make an atom bomb?? Go and get married dammit., take care of the kid  and take care your company or what  ever ., there are millions of women folk in Pakistan towns who will love to work., why not open small help line work places to these people  instead going in to brainless emotional stupid crowd with nut cases like Zaid Hamid

    Go and get married or have  a boy friend  dammit.  take care of the kid  and take care of your company or whatever. There are millions of women folk in Pakistan towns who love to work. Why not open small help line work places to these people in small towns  instead of going in to brainless emotional stupid crowd with nut cases like Zaid Hamid and making fool of yourself?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRpAverlzw0

    with best wishes
    yeezevee

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #26 - March 13, 2010, 11:13 AM

    Zaid Hamid: Wake up : Wake up Lahore  , : Wake up Lahore ..  : Wake up Lahore  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI-TCkvGZjI&feature=related


    "Damn Lahore is waking up with Bombs and Killings Dammit "


    News says  Multiple terror blasts shake Lahore Saturday, 13 Mar, 2010

    Quote
     http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/eight-soldiers-among-50-killed-taliban-claim-responsibility-for-attacks-terror-blasts-shake-lahore-330

    (Clicky for piccy!)

    Army soldiers cordon off the area of bombing in Lahore. Panic fripped Lahore after it was rocked by a twin-suicide attack that killed at least 50 people, followed by a series of low-intensity explosions.

    Quote
    Two suicide bombers struck in R.A. Bazaar area of the cantonment in the afternoon, killing 50 people, including eight soldiers, and injuring around 120 others. Then in the evening, six blasts shook Allama Iqbal Town and Samanabad.

    According to police, the explosions were intended to terrorise an already rattled populace. A seventh blast reported from the same area was caused, according to police, by an electricity transformer which blew up because of some technical fault.

    The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan claimed responsibility for the suicide attacks.

    An FIR of the R.A. bazaar blasts registered by the cantonment police at night put the number of dead between 50 and 60 and the injured at 120.

    Cantonment SP Jawad Qamar said that scattered limbs had made it difficult to give an exact toll and to identity the dead.

    The R.A. Bazaar attacks were almost simultaneous and took place close to a busy market minutes before Friday prayers.

    read it all at the link...


    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #27 - March 13, 2010, 12:46 PM

    It's haram for men and women to hold hands. Wake Up Lahore.
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #28 - March 13, 2010, 05:00 PM

    Quote
    It's haram


    no idea what is haram and what is halal and whose blood and where it goes..

    emotions.. emotions.. and emotions.....

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocEwhXD-vck



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCGiJrOB8kM&feature=related

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
  • Re: Zaid Hamid
     Reply #29 - March 14, 2010, 04:16 AM

    Zaid Hamid Propaganda in Pakistan .,  America The Shaitan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek48iJJ5Qg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NGQfbO8CGg

    Do not let silence become your legacy.. Question everything   
    I renounced my faith to become a kafir, 
    the beloved betrayed me and turned in to  a Muslim
     
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